[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hi BTC, this plugin is so amazing! Nothing to report, I'm just thanking 
> you for your work! It's been super reliable for me. 
>
>
Hi JD, thank you very much,
I've seen how you've integrated it in your material theme and the shadow 
theme, which I like a lot, BIG compliments for your work!

I'm glad that the plugin is so reliable and useful for you all!

have a good weekend,
BTC

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[tw5] List sorting hierarchy syntax help

[Scott Kingery]

Here's what I want to do...

I have a tiddlers that represent restaurants and stores. So those tiddlers 
will be like:

Title: name of restaurant or store
Location is a field that indicates where the restaurant is located
Blurb is a field that is some info about the place

There is a subtopic field that is either Restaurant or Store.

My goal is to have another tiddler that had a title of a location and lists 
all the restaurants or stores in that location.

I want it to group the restaurants and stores together. Like this:

Restaurant
   Joes Bar
   Mikes Burgers
Shops
   Toys n More
   Wizard of Books



I'm almost there. I know I need a filter with in a filter but I cant get 
that syntax right.

Here is what I have:

\define MyFilter()
[location[$(MyTag)$]sort[title]]
\end


<$set name="MyTag" value={{!!title}}>
<$list filter=<>>

<$transclude field="subtopic"/>


<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>

<$transclude field="blurb"/>

<$transclude field="location-help"/>



And that gives me more like:

Restaurant
   Joes Bar
Restaurant
   Mikes Burgers
Shops
   Toy n More
Shops
   Wizard of Books



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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[JD]

Hey man, I wonder why $:/tags/RawMarkup doesn't work anymore. I might be wrong 
but I remember it working for me once. I tried a workaround and used 
$:/tags/PageTemplate instead. 

You can see a demo of that here: 

http://googlefonts.tiddlyspot.com

Of course, you can use whatever font you want instead of the two here, you can 
add more or delete any. 

Tiddler: $:/font

Tag: $:/tags/PageTemplate

Text: 



https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Acme; rel="stylesheet">
https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Allan; rel="stylesheet">


body {
font-family: "Acme";
}
h2 {
font-family: "Allan";
}




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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

Raw markup doesn't work. If the tiddler is closed, I don't get the fonts 
anymore. I must be doing something wrong. trying to look. 


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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[Mohammad]

Great Job!
Keep going on.

Best
Mohammad

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 3:07:32 PM UTC+4:30, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> The original thread where I first shared this theme might be too long now 
> for new users (old thread here 
> ), 
> so I'm going to re-share it, along with some updates.
>
> This is my *Material Theme for TW5* (demo here: 
> http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/), loosely following Google's Material 
> design guidelines. This theme has a built-in mobile layout and color 
> palettes that you can tweak at *Control Panel* > *Appearance *> *Material 
> Tweaks*
>
> I rely on your feedback and bug reports, please inform me about them here. 
>
>
> *UPDATES:*
>
>- Updated the demo site to *TW5.1.17*
>- Updated implementation of BTC's HammerWidgets and HammerJS (the 
>theme will *detect *if these two plugins are installed, and will 
>automatically apply swipe+tap capabilities specific to the theme. There's 
>no longer a need for an additional theme tiddler)
>- The theme no longer edits the palettes within it. Only the configDB 
>is being edited when tweaking the theme in *Control Panel* > 
>*Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
>- Added links to TheDiveO's RobotoFont plugin, Material icons, and 
>BTC's widgets under the *Miscellaneous *section in *Control Panel* > 
>*Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
>- The theme is now more mindful of the core color palettes, and will 
>look nice even when not using the Material palettes it has built-in (I've 
>recently been digging the core Blue Palette).
>- Added ability to select the default sidebar state when 
>*$:/state/sidebar* is missing (*Control Panel* > *Appearance *> *Material 
>Tweaks*)
>
> If you're updating, please delete with the following filter first: 
> *[all[shadows+tiddlers]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Material]]*
>
> -JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[Abraham Samma]

Hello JD,

First off, let me just say WOW to your effort to apply MD to TW5. Great job.

Second, though the app looks great and fast on desktop, it feels slightly 
but noticeably slower on a mobile phone (for understandable reasons; 
reducing animation duration to zero improves this somewhat).

Third, opening and closing the drawer to access tiddlers can get a little 
tiring. Most users would expect the drawer to automatically close after 
selecting something in mobile apps. I think we can improve this 
functionality for TW5 in general somehow.

Overall, this has great potential. Great job again.

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 1:37:32 PM UTC+3, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> The original thread where I first shared this theme might be too long now 
> for new users (old thread here 
> ), 
> so I'm going to re-share it, along with some updates.
>
> This is my *Material Theme for TW5* (demo here: 
> http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/), loosely following Google's Material 
> design guidelines. This theme has a built-in mobile layout and color 
> palettes that you can tweak at *Control Panel* > *Appearance *> *Material 
> Tweaks*
>
> I rely on your feedback and bug reports, please inform me about them here. 
>
>
> *UPDATES:*
>
>- Updated the demo site to *TW5.1.17*
>- Updated implementation of BTC's HammerWidgets and HammerJS (the 
>theme will *detect *if these two plugins are installed, and will 
>automatically apply swipe+tap capabilities specific to the theme. There's 
>no longer a need for an additional theme tiddler)
>- The theme no longer edits the palettes within it. Only the configDB 
>is being edited when tweaking the theme in *Control Panel* > 
>*Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
>- Added links to TheDiveO's RobotoFont plugin, Material icons, and 
>BTC's widgets under the *Miscellaneous *section in *Control Panel* > 
>*Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
>- The theme is now more mindful of the core color palettes, and will 
>look nice even when not using the Material palettes it has built-in (I've 
>recently been digging the core Blue Palette).
>- Added ability to select the default sidebar state when 
>*$:/state/sidebar* is missing (*Control Panel* > *Appearance *> *Material 
>Tweaks*)
>
> If you're updating, please delete with the following filter first: 
> *[all[shadows+tiddlers]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Material]]*
>
> -JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Ste Wilson]

Updated instruction to, hopefully, make that clearer. 

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[JD]

Oh, wow, thanks for the feedback and suggestion! Once I'm properly 
acquainted with either of those I'll maybe create a space for this theme 
there. Aside from the features you mentioned, I'm also a little bit worried 
that this thread might be hijacking people's inboxes too much  

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 11:52:06 PM UTC+9, Adam wrote:
>
> I found your theme yesterday and I am amazed with how gorgeous it is. I 
> haven't searched the whole conversation so I don't know if someone has 
> already talked about this but you should definitely create a GitHub/GitLab 
> page for it. That way you will have more control about feature requests and 
> bugs. Also that amazing theme will have a home and gain more traction. 
> Seriously it has great potential, don't work on in through Google Groups!
>

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Ste Wilson]

Just any tiddler then you have a list of the Google fonts you have installed 
and can copy / paste into the rep event code bits easily. I went a step further 
and put each font between the @code so it's also a sample of what each front 
looks like. You can find it in the links after the instructions. 

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[JD]

Hi Diego!

I think there's still a long way to go before I can agree to that, but gee, 
thanks! :D

Regarding ctrl+space for bringing up the search bar, you have to install BTC's 
KeeBoord Plugin  for that to work. And 
then you have to define the shortcut itself. 

I just finished documenting how at the demo site.  

Thanks!

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 9:57:39 PM UTC+9, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> JD:
>
> *WOW - PLEASE lets try to get this in the core!!*
>
> The ctrl+space for bringing up the search bar - this is *exactly* what 
> Ive wanted for so long!!! I'm so happy!! Thank you!!
>
>
> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 7:08:33 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Great! I think that change will help. (No, it was not clear, at least to 
>> me, that there was a one drag option of "all needed".)
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>> JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, the demo site has been using The Bundler for a while now. The 
>>> draggable tagpill  Material Theme + icons + HammerWidgets  is meant to 
>>> represent that, although I take it from your comment that it isn't as easy 
>>> to understand as I initially thought. I updated the demo site to hopefully 
>>> reflect this.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[Adam Antios]

I found your theme yesterday and I a amazed at hot gorgeous it is. I 
haven't searched the whole conversation but create a GitHub/GitLab page for 
your theme. That way you will have more control about feature requests and 
bugs. Also that amazing theme will have a home and gain more traction. 
Seriously this theme has great potential, don't work on in through Google 
Groups!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Why I don't use TiddlyWiki as much as I'ld like

[Arlen Beiler]

I use (and develop) TiddlyServer and sync my files using Dropbox. You
should only have one device actively running it at a time, otherwise data
folders (folders containing a tiddlywiki.info file) will get out of sync.
But it works great for me and works on every platform except maybe iOS. Not
sure about that though. If there is a linux terminal emulator for iOS that
you can run Node in, then you should be good. I run it on Android using
Termux, as well as on windows. And you can access it over the network.

I agree about NoteSelf, though. Until cloudant stopped working it was my
service of choice. It is a good piece of work even if it sometimes is a
little tricky. I think we need to get it working with PouchDB server and
then you could host it on a AWS EC2 Instance or other cloud engine.

I would still like to make a NoteSelf inspired system that syncs with
Dropbox, but I am often stymied by the enormity of the task.

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 9:29 PM @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Mike Manchester wrote:
>>
>> I've always been a big fan of TiddlyWiki. I've been using it in one form
>> or another since about 2010. But the one thing still frustrates me is the
>> awkwardness of using on multiple systems
>>
>
> Right. Two dimensions of difficulty arise: (1) its, in bare, a local file
> save for continuity; (2) different OS and different browsers don't behave
> the same.
>
> The core point is its NOT coming through a server so co-ordination gets
> baroque.
>
> I think one of the neatest solutions is the NoteSelf version of
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> Under this the Tiddlers are held both locally in "browser storage" AND
> (optionally) remotely in a "cloud database". This eliminates most cross OS
> & Browser differences.
>
> Its reputed to be quite difficult to setup, but once working is very good.
>
> Just a thought ...
>
> NoteSelf has its own discussion group here: https://forum.noteself.org/
>
> It can be installed from here: https://noteself.github.io/
>
>
>>
>> I use many different OS Linux, Mac, Windows, iOS. I have yet to find away
>> to use TiddlyWiki on all of these. I've tried Dropbox, Google Drive and you
>> still have to jump through hoops to get to run.
>>
>> Does anyone have a solution that will work anywhere and on any OS? Maybe
>> it's just me. Maybe I don't know how to access it.
>>
>> I have so many ways I want to use it but if I can't get to if from
>> anywhere with anything none of that matters.
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Why I don't use TiddlyWiki as much as I'ld like

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mike Manchester wrote:
>
> I've always been a big fan of TiddlyWiki. I've been using it in one form 
> or another since about 2010. But the one thing still frustrates me is the 
> awkwardness of using on multiple systems
>

Right. Two dimensions of difficulty arise: (1) its, in bare, a local file 
save for continuity; (2) different OS and different browsers don't behave 
the same.

The core point is its NOT coming through a server so co-ordination gets 
baroque.

I think one of the neatest solutions is the NoteSelf version of TiddlyWiki. 

Under this the Tiddlers are held both locally in "browser storage" AND 
(optionally) remotely in a "cloud database". This eliminates most cross OS 
& Browser differences. 

Its reputed to be quite difficult to setup, but once working is very good.

Just a thought ...

NoteSelf has its own discussion group here: https://forum.noteself.org/

It can be installed from here: https://noteself.github.io/


>
> I use many different OS Linux, Mac, Windows, iOS. I have yet to find away 
> to use TiddlyWiki on all of these. I've tried Dropbox, Google Drive and you 
> still have to jump through hoops to get to run. 
>
> Does anyone have a solution that will work anywhere and on any OS? Maybe 
> it's just me. Maybe I don't know how to access it. 
>
> I have so many ways I want to use it but if I can't get to if from 
> anywhere with anything none of that matters. 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[Diego Mesa]

JD:

*WOW - PLEASE lets try to get this in the core!!*

The ctrl+space for bringing up the search bar - this is *exactly* what 
Ive wanted for so long!!! I'm so happy!! Thank you!!


On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 7:08:33 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Great! I think that change will help. (No, it was not clear, at least to 
> me, that there was a one drag option of "all needed".)
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> JD wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the demo site has been using The Bundler for a while now. The 
>> draggable tagpill  Material Theme + icons + HammerWidgets  is meant to 
>> represent that, although I take it from your comment that it isn't as easy 
>> to understand as I initially thought. I updated the demo site to hopefully 
>> reflect this.
>>
>

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[tw5] Why I don't use TiddlyWiki as much as I'ld like

[Mike Manchester]

I've always been a big fan of TiddlyWiki. I've been using it in one form or 
another since about 2010. But the one thing still frustrates me is the 
awkwardness of using on multiple systems. When I was just use it on one 
system it works great. 

I use many different OS Linux, Mac, Windows, iOS. I have yet to find away 
to use TiddlyWiki on all of these. I've tried Dropbox, Google Drive and you 
still have to jump through hoops to get to run. 

Does anyone have a solution that will work anywhere and on any OS? Maybe 
it's just me. Maybe I don't know how to access it. 

I have so many ways I want to use it but if I can't get to if from anywhere 
with anything none of that matters. 


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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Great! I think that change will help. (No, it was not clear, at least to 
me, that there was a one drag option of "all needed".)

Best wishes
Josiah

JD wrote:
>
> Yes, the demo site has been using The Bundler for a while now. The 
> draggable tagpill  Material Theme + icons + HammerWidgets  is meant to 
> represent that, although I take it from your comment that it isn't as easy 
> to understand as I initially thought. I updated the demo site to hopefully 
> reflect this.
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[JD]

Hi Josiah,

Yes, the demo site has been using The Bundler for a while now. The 
draggable tagpill  Material Theme + icons + HammerWidgets  is meant to 
represent that, although I take it from your comment that it isn't as easy 
to understand as I initially thought. I updated the demo site to hopefully 
reflect this.

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 8:05:48 PM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> JD
>
> I understand this is a Theme, not a plugin. But it might be worth a 
> thought creating a "package" that will install the Theme & the Hammer 
> support in ONE go. So the user does not have to do more than one download?
>
> Have you seen PMario's BUNDLER? It will wrap in one JSON all components 
> needed. Its really easy. Its designed exactly for this kind of situation: The 
> Bundler 
> 
>
> Just thoughts
> Josiah  
>

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

[Shay Shaked]

On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 6:52:05 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I don't understand. You should just need to do it once to load the font 
> and then it should be available in the wiki.
>

Jed, I get it, missed part of what you said. Are you talking about the wiki 
HTML page? Just shove the cove somewhere in the header tag?  

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[@TiddlyTweeter]

JD

I understand this is a Theme, not a plugin. But it might be worth a thought 
creating a "package" that will install the Theme & the Hammer support in 
ONE go. So the user does not have to do more than one download?

Have you seen PMario's BUNDLER? It will wrap in one JSON all components 
needed. Its really easy. Its designed exactly for this kind of situation: The 
Bundler 


Just thoughts
Josiah  

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[@TiddlyTweeter]

JD 

> I'm wondering if it has anything to do with HammerWidgets or HammerJS? 
> It's not packaged with Material Theme, but some theme tiddlers look for its 
> existence.


Very likely. The RSOD that disappears on second refresh usually relates to 
JS plugins that on first run change some things that need a reload to 
activate.

J.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5 + Noteself] How to set up Noteself multiuser?

[JD]

OHMY I didn't realize NoteSelf has its own forum now! Thanks for the info, 
Josiah. I hope this makes it more visible to new users!

-JD

On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 12:56:03 AM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> mauloop 
>
> Did you know NoteSelf has a dedicated forum now at: 
> https://forum.noteself.org/
>
> Josiah
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[tw5] Re: KeeBoord - global keyboard shortcuts

[JD]

Hi BTC, this is plugin is so amazing! Nothing to report, I'm just thanking 
you for your work! It's been super reliable for me. 



On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 2:29:22 PM UTC+9, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi BurningTreeC,
>>
>> This is the plugin of my dreams!! Fantastic. Encountered no issues so far 
>> but I am inclined to believe that this should be the plugin of the month.
>>
>> Infact, I dare say TW5 should come bundled with this plugin because it 
>> augments it so very well.
>>
>
> Hi Abraham,
> Thank you for the great feedback!
>
> I've made a PR on github to integrate this functionality in the core, it's 
> still open. Fingers crossed it gets merged :)
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[JD]

New thread here 
, everyone. 
Please redirect bug reports there :)



On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 7:26:27 PM UTC+9, JD wrote:
>
> Aha! I guess I should officially re-anounce it? 
>
>
> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 7:16:34 PM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:12:35 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao again JD
>>>
>>> Small info footnote ...
>>>
>>> This thread is fact approaching 100 posts. This is #98.
>>>
>>> When it reaches, on the WEB version of Google Groups, anything over 100 
>>> starts to get complicated to read as the posts start paginating.
>>>
>>
>> UPDATE: Its already started paginating. :-)
>>
>>
>>> Suggest you start a new thread.
>>>
>>> Just a thought
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Material Theme for TW5 (still sort-of )

[JD]

Hello everyone,

The original thread where I first shared this theme might be too long now 
for new users (old thread here 
), 
so I'm going to re-share it, along with some updates.

This is my *Material Theme for TW5* (demo here: 
http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/), loosely following Google's Material 
design guidelines. This theme has a built-in mobile layout and color 
palettes that you can tweak at *Control Panel* > *Appearance *> *Material 
Tweaks*

I rely on your feedback and bug reports, please inform me about them here. 


*UPDATES:*

   - Updated the demo site to *TW5.1.17*
   - Updated implementation of BTC's HammerWidgets and HammerJS (the theme 
   will *detect *if these two plugins are installed, and will automatically 
   apply swipe+tap capabilities specific to the theme. There's no longer a 
   need for an additional theme tiddler)
   - The theme no longer edits the palettes within it. Only the configDB is 
   being edited when tweaking the theme in *Control Panel* > *Appearance *> 
*Material 
   Tweaks*
   - Added links to TheDiveO's RobotoFont plugin, Material icons, and BTC's 
   widgets under the *Miscellaneous *section in *Control Panel* > 
   *Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
   - The theme is now more mindful of the core color palettes, and will 
   look nice even when not using the Material palettes it has built-in (I've 
   recently been digging the core Blue Palette).
   - Added ability to select the default sidebar state when 
   *$:/state/sidebar* is missing (*Control Panel* > *Appearance *> *Material 
   Tweaks*)
   
If you're updating, please delete with the following filter first: 
*[all[shadows+tiddlers]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Material]]*

-JD

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[JD]

Aha! I guess I should officially re-anounce it? 


On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 7:16:34 PM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:12:35 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao again JD
>>
>> Small info footnote ...
>>
>> This thread is fact approaching 100 posts. This is #98.
>>
>> When it reaches, on the WEB version of Google Groups, anything over 100 
>> starts to get complicated to read as the posts start paginating.
>>
>
> UPDATE: Its already started paginating. :-)
>
>
>> Suggest you start a new thread.
>>
>> Just a thought
>> Josiah
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[JD]

>
> Ciao JD
>
> Seriously good improvements. A few notes after some testing:
>

Hi Josiah, it's always nice to read your posts. Thanks for looking into 
this theme!  


(1) on first update you can get a JavaScript RSOD (Firefox Win ESR v52.8). 
> I am not sure this actually is an error but its known that sometimes you 
> need install a plugin, save and refresh, then refresh again. I'm not sure 
> why. It may have something to do with how the initial settings get applied. 
> If the RSOD comes up again in other contexts I will let you know.
>

Oh, I wonder what could be causing it. This is a JS-free theme (besides of 
course, relying on core TW scripts). Please do inform if this comes up 
again in relation to this theme. I'm wondering if it has anything to do 
with HammerWidgets or HammerJS? It's not packaged with Material Theme, but 
some theme tiddlers look for its existence.


(2) Simple point. When you release a new version *please give the link 
> again* to: http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> .
>  
> Some readers will be new and won't have ever read the first post (early 
> April) or know how to find it.
>

Thanks for the reminder! I forget to re-announce 


(3) I had a look at your developing Spartan Theme at 
> http://j.d.spartan.tiddlyspot.com/ -- looking good!
>
>
Thanks, although I wonder if I'll ever release that. It's testing the 
limits of minimalist design and is specifically designed for my use-case. 
I've recently fallen inlove with BTC's KeeBoord plugin, and with it I ran 
the idea of a pseudo-commandline searchbar that can open / edit tiddlers 
called by it. The whole point of Spartan Theme is to let me use the 
keyboard more.  

Again, thanks for the feedback!

-JD


 

>
> JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, 
>>
>> I updated the theme so that it's possible to select the default sidebar 
>> state when *$:/state/sidebar* is missing (*Control Panel* > *Appearance *
>> > *Material Tweaks*). 
>>
>  
>
>> *OTHER UPDATES:*
>>
>>- Updated the demo site to *TW5.1.17*
>>- Updated implementation of BTC's HammerWidgets and HammerJS (the 
>>theme will *detect *if these two plugins are installed, and will 
>>automatically apply swipe+tap capabilities specific to the theme. There's 
>>no longer a need for an additional theme tiddler)
>>- The theme no longer edits the palettes within it. Only the configDB 
>>is being edited when tweaking the theme in *Control Panel* > *Appearance 
>>*> *Material Tweaks*
>>- Added links to TheDiveO's RobotoFont plugin, Material icons, and 
>>BTC's widgets under the *Miscellaneous *section in *Control Panel* > 
>>*Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
>>- The theme is now more mindful of the core color palettes, and will 
>>look nice even when not using the Material palettes it has built-in (I've 
>>recently been digging the core Blue Palette).
>>
>>  
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

On Saturday, 23 June 2018 12:12:35 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao again JD
>
> Small info footnote ...
>
> This thread is fact approaching 100 posts. This is #98.
>
> When it reaches, on the WEB version of Google Groups, anything over 100 
> starts to get complicated to read as the posts start paginating.
>

UPDATE: Its already started paginating. :-)


> Suggest you start a new thread.
>
> Just a thought
> Josiah
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao again JD

Small info footnote ...

This thread is fact approaching 100 posts. This is #97.

When it reaches, on the WEB version of Google Groups, anything over 100 
starts to get complicated to read as the posts start paginating.

Suggest you start a new thread.

Just a thought
Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[JD]

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the info! This is useful to keep in mind for people like me who 
don't use node.js but make use of $:/state/ tiddlers.

- JD



On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 6:22:49 PM UTC+9, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi JD
>
> On 23 Jun 2018, at 09:41, JD > wrote:
>
> Is it that restarting / reopening TWs on node.js deletes 
> *$:/state/sidebar*? Shooting in the dark here, as I don't know how to use 
> node.js, but when I close the sidebar then save my wiki, the sidebar 
> remains closed when I reopen the wiki. All of this in tiddlyspot, by the 
> way, using Vanilla theme. 
>
>
> $:/state/ tiddlers are not synced back to the server under Node.js. It’s a 
> bit of a hack to avoid different state information from different users 
> interfering with one another.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao JD

Seriously good improvements. A few notes after some testing:

(1) on first update you can get a JavaScript RSOD (Firefox Win ESR v52.8). 
I am not sure this actually is an error but its known that sometimes you 
need install a plugin, save and refresh, then refresh again. I'm not sure 
why. It may have something to do with how the initial settings get applied. 
If the RSOD comes up again in other contexts I will let you know.

(2) Simple point. When you release a new version *please give the link 
again* to: http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com/. Some readers will be new 
and won't have ever read the first post (early April) or know how to find 
it.

(3) I had a look at your developing Spartan Theme at 
http://j.d.spartan.tiddlyspot.com/ -- looking good!

Best wishes
Josiah

JD wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin, 
>
> I updated the theme so that it's possible to select the default sidebar 
> state when *$:/state/sidebar* is missing (*Control Panel* > *Appearance *
> > *Material Tweaks*). 
>
 

> *OTHER UPDATES:*
>
>- Updated the demo site to *TW5.1.17*
>- Updated implementation of BTC's HammerWidgets and HammerJS (the 
>theme will *detect *if these two plugins are installed, and will 
>automatically apply swipe+tap capabilities specific to the theme. There's 
>no longer a need for an additional theme tiddler)
>- The theme no longer edits the palettes within it. Only the configDB 
>is being edited when tweaking the theme in *Control Panel* > *Appearance 
>*> *Material Tweaks*
>- Added links to TheDiveO's RobotoFont plugin, Material icons, and 
>BTC's widgets under the *Miscellaneous *section in *Control Panel* > 
>*Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
>- The theme is now more mindful of the core color palettes, and will 
>look nice even when not using the Material palettes it has built-in (I've 
>recently been digging the core Blue Palette).
>
>  

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Re: [tw5] Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi JD

> On 23 Jun 2018, at 09:41, JD  wrote:
> 
> Is it that restarting / reopening TWs on node.js deletes $:/state/sidebar? 
> Shooting in the dark here, as I don't know how to use node.js, but when I 
> close the sidebar then save my wiki, the sidebar remains closed when I reopen 
> the wiki. All of this in tiddlyspot, by the way, using Vanilla theme. 

$:/state/ tiddlers are not synced back to the server under Node.js. It’s a bit 
of a hack to avoid different state information from different users interfering 
with one another.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

[JD]

Hi Kevin, 

I updated the theme so that it's possible to select the default sidebar 
state when *$:/state/sidebar* is missing (*Control Panel* > *Appearance *> 
*Material 
Tweaks*). 

Is it that restarting / reopening TWs on node.js deletes *$:/state/sidebar*? 
Shooting in the dark here, as I don't know how to use node.js, but when I 
close the sidebar then save my wiki, the sidebar remains closed when I 
reopen the wiki. All of this in tiddlyspot, by the way, using Vanilla 
theme. 

*OTHER UPDATES:*

   - Updated the demo site to *TW5.1.17*
   - Updated implementation of BTC's HammerWidgets and HammerJS (the theme 
   will *detect *if these two plugins are installed, and will automatically 
   apply swipe+tap capabilities specific to the theme. There's no longer a 
   need for an additional theme tiddler)
   - The theme no longer edits the palettes within it. Only the configDB is 
   being edited when tweaking the theme in *Control Panel* > *Appearance *> 
*Material 
   Tweaks*
   - Added links to TheDiveO's RobotoFont plugin, Material icons, and BTC's 
   widgets under the *Miscellaneous *section in *Control Panel* > 
   *Appearance *> *Material Tweaks*
   - The theme is now more mindful of the core color palettes, and will 
   look nice even when not using the Material palettes it has built-in (I've 
   recently been digging the core Blue Palette).

If you're updating, please delete with the following filter first: 
*[all[shadows+tiddlers]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Material]]*

-JD



On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 10:13:10 PM UTC+9, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>
> Hello JD,
> Did you ever come up with a solution?  Even a hack that sorta-mostly works?
> Thanks!
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 11:27:38 AM UTC-4, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply, and very sorry to inform you that I would 
>> figure out a solution to this no sooner than next week, as this is a bug I 
>> would like to fix completely. 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 6:59:27 AM UTC+9, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>>>
>>> The material theme always has the sidebar closed on initial page load 
>>> (for a node.js TW).  I'd prefer it always open.  Curiously, this behavior 
>>> is backwards from the built-in themes.
>>>
>>>

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