[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-19 Thread Luis Gonzalez
It's a good suggestion.

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-19 Thread Luis Gonzalez
The widgets chapter is still in first writing. I have to read and rewrite 
it. 


Thanks for your help

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread bimlas
TonyM,

If one individual had a single parents field with one or more (typically 
> two) parents named ...
>

Originally I started this route and it seemed like a good solution for 
parents, but it led to duplication of siblings. If there is a family that 
has a mother and a father, then I have to indicate to the father that the 
mother is his wife and vica versa. I have to list each of the brothers and 
sisters separately for brothers and sisters. After thinking through this, I 
came to the conclusion that the family itself and its participants should 
be accounted for in a separate tiddler. For example, I could create a "Mom 
+ Dad's Family" tiddler with three fields: parents, parents relationship, 
children. Each field would be a list of individuals (father, mother, 
brother, etc.). If I'm wondering who are the chidlren of "father", I'm 
looking for the family tiddler where "father" is in the "parents" field 
("Mom + Dad's Family"). If I'm wondering about "father" parents, I'll find 
which tiddler contains "father" in the "children" field ("Grandmother + 
Grandfather's Family"). With this method, a "father" can belong to multiple 
families because they are divorced in one family ("parents relationship" 
field) and married in the other. One disadvantage of this is that it is 
harder to do a recursive search (dad's dad).
 

> Why would I suggest this? Because ultimately you may need to extend it to 
> support real world occurances so you need to allow for this rather than 
> forcing a rewrite.
>

 You may have misunderstood me (or I misunderstand you): not the kin filter 
is what I am developing.
 

> If anyone can do this I think it's Bimlas coding and Josiah advising but 
> please ask for support if needed.
>

 Thank you for your encouragement and help! :)

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[tw5] Re: List on current tiddler footer only on certain title

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Added to TW-Scripts.

On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 8:29:30 AM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 8:32:05 PM UTC-8, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>
>> I tried to do the reverse
>> <$list filter="[all[current]title[Home]]">
>> to have it show up only on Home. It doesn't work and ends up showing on 
>> all tiddlers.
>>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Selection%20Constructors
>
> * Most operators derive their output from their input. For example, many 
> of them output a subset of their input, and thus truly live up to the name 
> of "filters", narrowing down the overall output of the containing run. 
> These operators are called selection modifiers.
> * A few operators ignore their input and generate an independent output 
> instead. These are called selection constructors: they construct an 
> entirely new selection.
>
> The "[title[...]]" filter operator is a selection constructor.  Thus, in 
> your filter expression, it doesn't matter that title[Home] is preceded by 
> all[current].  It will always result in the value "Home" being returned by 
> the filter.
>
> Fortunately, there are several selection modifier filter operators that 
> you can use to get the results you want:
>
> * [all[current]field:title[Home]] tests to see if the field named title 
> has a value of "Home"
> or
> * [all[current]match[Home]] tests the value of "all[current]" to see if it 
> matches the literal text "Home"
>
> note: you can also replace "all[current]" with the variable 
>  (SINGLE angle brackets for filters!), thus:
>
> * [field:title[Home]]
> or
> * [match[Home]]
>
> Any of the above filters should work for your desired end goal.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>
> .  For your purposes, you should use "field:title[Home]" which tests the 
> input to see if 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: List on current tiddler footer only on certain title

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 8:32:05 PM UTC-8, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> I tried to do the reverse
> <$list filter="[all[current]title[Home]]">
> to have it show up only on Home. It doesn't work and ends up showing on 
> all tiddlers.
>

https://tiddlywiki.com/#Selection%20Constructors

* Most operators derive their output from their input. For example, many of 
them output a subset of their input, and thus truly live up to the name of 
"filters", narrowing down the overall output of the containing run. These 
operators are called selection modifiers.
* A few operators ignore their input and generate an independent output 
instead. These are called selection constructors: they construct an 
entirely new selection.

The "[title[...]]" filter operator is a selection constructor.  Thus, in 
your filter expression, it doesn't matter that title[Home] is preceded by 
all[current].  It will always result in the value "Home" being returned by 
the filter.

Fortunately, there are several selection modifier filter operators that you 
can use to get the results you want:

* [all[current]field:title[Home]] tests to see if the field named title has 
a value of "Home"
or
* [all[current]match[Home]] tests the value of "all[current]" to see if it 
matches the literal text "Home"

note: you can also replace "all[current]" with the variable 
 (SINGLE angle brackets for filters!), thus:

* [field:title[Home]]
or
* [match[Home]]

Any of the above filters should work for your desired end goal.

enjoy,
-e


.  For your purposes, you should use "field:title[Home]" which tests the 
input to see if 







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[tw5] Re: droppable and draggable widgets

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Tony!
I will have a look!

--Mohammad

On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 1:50:18 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> The Kanban implementations in tiddlywiki do this kind of operation if you 
> are looking for more inspiration.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 8:33:43 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>  It works, a million thanks!
>>
>> I had to modify my drop actions based on your code!
>>
>> \define drop-actions()
>> <$vars oldFolder={{{ [listed[]] +[subfilter] 
>> +[limit[1]]}}}>
>> <$action-listops $tiddler=<>   $field="list" 
>> $subfilter="-[]"/>
>> <$action-listops $tiddler=<<__folder__>> 
>> $subfilter='+[insertbefore:currentTiddler]'/>
>> 
>> \end
>>
>>
>>
>>- First I found where it has been listed (it always listed in one 
>>favorites folder
>>- Then I remove it from the list of old folder
>>- In the next step I add it to the list field of new folder
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: List on current tiddler footer only on certain title

2019-12-19 Thread Scott Kingery
Answering my own question...

Looks like this works to do what I want:
<$list filter="[all[current]field:title[Home]]">



On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 8:32:05 PM UTC-8, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> I have this list filter I'm using in a footer
> <$list filter="[all[current]!title[Home]]">
>
> If the tiddler is NOT titled Home it shows up. All good.
>
> I tried to do the reverse
> <$list filter="[all[current]title[Home]]">
> to have it show up only on Home. It doesn't work and ends up showing on 
> all tiddlers.
>
> What am I missing to get it to show only on Home?
>
>

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[tw5] List on current tiddler footer only on certain title

2019-12-19 Thread Scott Kingery
I have this list filter I'm using in a footer
<$list filter="[all[current]!title[Home]]">

If the tiddler is NOT titled Home it shows up. All good.

I tried to do the reverse
<$list filter="[all[current]title[Home]]">
to have it show up only on Home. It doesn't work and ends up showing on all 
tiddlers.

What am I missing to get it to show only on Home?

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[tw5] Re: Any idea how to collapse/expand section within a tiddler

2019-12-19 Thread CJ Veniot
G'day,

I'm a rather big fan of Thomas Elmiger's Details Widget. (Just to put in a 
plug,  PUN! , from a humble user's perspective?)

I haven't pushed the plugin to the limit yet, but sneak a peek at my little 
project to see how I've experimented with Details Widget so far:  
https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/

Really, I've never liked the concept of clicking on links and bouncing 
around between pages (or tiddlers).  So Details Widget is right awesome at 
handling super-sized tiddlers that are just about including a swath of 
other tiny tiddlers (i.e. supporting a Componentization 

 
approach to organizing information.)

Cheers !

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:39:20 PM UTC-3, James wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Is there any ways we can collapse/expand the content in the section by 
> clicking on the heading?
>
>

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[tw5] Re: search operator and variables

2019-12-19 Thread Magnus
Not to nitpick, but would be even more ultraperfekt if there where possible 
to use NOT (checkbox to negate [system + shadow] for example) :)

Den torsdag 19 december 2019 kl. 11:54:26 UTC+1 skrev Eric Shulman:
>
> Another update to http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html 
> SearchAndDestroy
>
> * added "clear inputs" button: [X]
> * added edit-list macro (combines $edit-field widget with droplist to 
> select values)
>- allows typing input OR selecting from droplist
>- used in SearchAndDestroy to enter "tiddlers to search" input
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: Can we have the pallet setting include theme tweaks settings?

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
Chuck,

This is a useful idea but could be impactful. Perhaps a better approach is 
for someone to create the ability to store two or more bundles of settings 
and allow switching between them. The settings could thus include other 
values perhaps even switch if the user name changes. What I am suggesting 
is a much more general solution which your suggestion would be just one 
specific use of it.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 4:48:29 AM UTC+11, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> My system: TW5.1.19 on tiddlyspot.com
>
> This is an idea for the future. 
>
> I'd like to be able to switch between palettes but also between theme 
> tweaks under Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweaks. Can we set up so 
> theme tweaks and the palette colors save under a Palette entry? I tend to 
> like my sidebar more narrow before it breaks so I have settings for that. 
>
> Thank you! You all have been very helpful. :)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: droppable and draggable widgets

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
FYI

The Kanban implementations in tiddlywiki do this kind of operation if you 
are looking for more inspiration.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 8:33:43 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>  It works, a million thanks!
>
> I had to modify my drop actions based on your code!
>
> \define drop-actions()
> <$vars oldFolder={{{ [listed[]] +[subfilter] 
> +[limit[1]]}}}>
> <$action-listops $tiddler=<>   $field="list" 
> $subfilter="-[]"/>
> <$action-listops $tiddler=<<__folder__>> 
> $subfilter='+[insertbefore:currentTiddler]'/>
> 
> \end
>
>
>
>- First I found where it has been listed (it always listed in one 
>favorites folder
>- Then I remove it from the list of old folder
>- In the next step I add it to the list field of new folder
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] Is this a bug: removing a tiddler which is tagged say with xx is not removed from xx list filed

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
Mohammad,

If you remove a tag after setting a precise order (thus updating the list) 
but add the tag back immediately it previous position is retained. Perhaps 
this is a side effect, but its a good one. 

The list field could be considered a system field that is used to deliver a 
particular functionality. If you want to use the list field rather than the 
tag filters then you could add an additional filter to exclude the items in 
the list that do not meet a particular condition such as not a tiddler, not 
a tag, not tagging.

I did look into the mechanism that uses the list field for tag order and it 
is particular in its implementation and has some gotchas for the nooby.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 1:23:50 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Jeremy!
>
> @Mario
> Thank you for your reply! these kind of things make confusion!
>  I will ask to know what is the reason for such behavior.
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
Luis,

Han I suggest in future "The-book weekly report" you add a Date?

eg: The-book weekly report 2019-12-12

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 11:41:06 PM UTC+11, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> This week I've been focused on the widgets chapter.
>
> I am a little worried about the way to orient this chapter. I've tried to 
> apply a progressive approach, from easy to complex. The goal of this 
> chapter is not explaining the widgets one by one. 
>
>
>
> I need your help in two ways:
>
>1. Read sections 1 to 6. Are they understandable? Something is missing?
>2. I have fill the section 7, "Writing your own widgets " with 
>information of the Tiddlywiky and Tiddlywiki dev sites, but it is a simple 
>copy-paste, I still don't understand this topic well. I need that 
>someone rewrite this section with easy instructions.
>
>
> *PLEASE, HELP ME!!*
>
>
> Thanks
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5.1.19: Can I copy the contents of a whole web page into a tiddler?

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
Chuck Post script

In  the Iframe I recommend Use Width="100%" and height as you desire.

Tony 

On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 9:02:34 AM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> CHuck,
>
>>
>> This issue is not a big deal but I was curious if I could save a single 
>> web page as HTML as a tiddler, like via drag and drop, so it would show me 
>> the contents of that page in TW as it was when I dragged it there. 
>>
>
> (1) you can use a utility in your browser to copy content as html, then 
> paste this into a tiddler and it will render somewhat.. But many web pages 
> have a whole lot of images etc... stored in separate files and this breaks 
> down.
>
>  
>
>>
>> Or even as an alternate, a tiddler would load a single webpage into the 
>> tiddler and show it as it is right now, a live copy if you will, which 
>> would requite an internet connection. 
>>
>
> (2) Use an iframe for this in a tiddler 
> 
>
> Placing the source url in the src value.
>
>
>> One of my applications is to hold the whole study page in the tiddler, 
>> like a static mirror of that page.
>>
>
>  Using option (1) may do this for you. But there are more options if not. 
>
> (3) although you loose the html you can print a webpage to a PDF Printer 
> then link to or import the PDF in tiddlywiki. This captures all formatting 
> and the result of CSS and Images etc...
>
> (4) you can capture a webpage and all its images etc... and save it in the 
> same structure in the same folder as the wiki and the html paste can use 
> these other files to display completely but you loose the single file 
> quality.
>
> For study notes it all depends on if you can have a wiki per subject and 
> how big it will be in the long run weather different options are sufficient.
>
> With the PDF output I use Foxit Reader which also makes it easy to Print 
> to PDF, copy content out, annotate the PDF and more.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>>
>> Sorry for all the newbie questions, but I'm exploring TW and finding all 
>> kinds of possibilities! This is too much fun. :)
>>
>> Don't be sorry, this is a community for this. 
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5.1.19: Can I copy the contents of a whole web page into a tiddler?

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
CHuck,

>
> This issue is not a big deal but I was curious if I could save a single 
> web page as HTML as a tiddler, like via drag and drop, so it would show me 
> the contents of that page in TW as it was when I dragged it there. 
>

(1) you can use a utility in your browser to copy content as html, then 
paste this into a tiddler and it will render somewhat.. But many web pages 
have a whole lot of images etc... stored in separate files and this breaks 
down.

 

>
> Or even as an alternate, a tiddler would load a single webpage into the 
> tiddler and show it as it is right now, a live copy if you will, which 
> would requite an internet connection. 
>

(2) Use an iframe for this in a tiddler 


Placing the source url in the src value.


> One of my applications is to hold the whole study page in the tiddler, 
> like a static mirror of that page.
>

 Using option (1) may do this for you. But there are more options if not. 

(3) although you loose the html you can print a webpage to a PDF Printer 
then link to or import the PDF in tiddlywiki. This captures all formatting 
and the result of CSS and Images etc...

(4) you can capture a webpage and all its images etc... and save it in the 
same structure in the same folder as the wiki and the html paste can use 
these other files to display completely but you loose the single file 
quality.

For study notes it all depends on if you can have a wiki per subject and 
how big it will be in the long run weather different options are sufficient.

With the PDF output I use Foxit Reader which also makes it easy to Print to 
PDF, copy content out, annotate the PDF and more.

Regards
Tony

>
> Sorry for all the newbie questions, but I'm exploring TW and finding all 
> kinds of possibilities! This is too much fun. :)
>
> Don't be sorry, this is a community for this. 

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
Bimlas

Ty/Josiah has a wealth of knowledge on this.

Fyi Actualy identifying male and female and thus the matralinial and paternal 
lines will help. I can already envision this with two kin filters. If one 
individual had a single parents field with one or more (typically two) parents 
named you could test to see which is female thus mother and which is father. 
However a separate field for birth father and mother could be itterayed in 
future to include step parent even first step mother etc for other relationship 
trees.

Why would I suggest this? Because ultimately you may need to extend it to 
support real world occurances so you need to allow for this rather than forcing 
a rewrite.

If anyone can do this I think it's Bimlas coding and Josiah advising but please 
ask for support if needed. I have done a lot of work on hierarchies and where 
they vary from simple hierarchies.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: droppable and draggable widgets

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi Eric,
 It works, a million thanks!

I had to modify my drop actions based on your code!

\define drop-actions()
<$vars oldFolder={{{ [listed[]] +[subfilter] 
+[limit[1]]}}}>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<>   $field="list" 
$subfilter="-[]"/>
<$action-listops $tiddler=<<__folder__>> 
$subfilter='+[insertbefore:currentTiddler]'/>

\end



   - First I found where it has been listed (it always listed in one 
   favorites folder
   - Then I remove it from the list of old folder
   - In the next step I add it to the list field of new folder

Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: droppable and draggable widgets

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Many thanks Eric!
I will go through it and try to use in my case and then come back with my 
results!

Actually I am working on the favorites plugin and I am trying  to create 
favorites folder
but I don not want to use a lot of tags! So, I am working with list field 
and a folder tiddler!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Friday, December 20, 2019 at 12:04:22 AM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:48:41 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Summary:
>>  How to drag and drop a tiddler from one droppable area to another 
>> droppable area
>>  where the action tiddler removed from list field of tiddler 1 and added 
>> to list field of tiddler 2
>>
>
> I just recently wrote something similar for the custom TOC macro I use in 
> InsideTiddlyWiki.
>
> Here's a link to my code:
> http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FTOC%2FMacros
>
> and here's an excerpt showing the relevant handling:
> \define toc-item-drop()
> 
> <$vars sourcetags={{{ [get[tags]] }}}
>targettags={{{ [get[tags]] }}}>
> <$vars oldtag={{{ [enlist!enlist] }}}
>newtag={{{ [enlist!enlist] }}}>
> <$reveal default=<> type="match" text="normal"> 
><$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" $subfilter=
> "-[]" />
><$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" $subfilter=
> "[]" />
><$action-listops $tiddler=<>$field="list" $subfilter=
> "-[]" />
><$action-listops $tiddler=<>$field="list" $subfilter=
> "+[insertbefore:item]" />
> 
> <$reveal default=<> type="match" text="shift"> 
><$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" 
> $subfilter="-[]" />
><$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" $subfilter=
> "[]" />
><$action-listops $tiddler=<>$field="list" $subfilter=
> "-[]" />
><$action-listops $tiddler=<>  $field="list" $subfilter=
> "[]" />
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> Note that I am manipulating both "tags" and "list" fields (the TOC uses 
> entries in the "tags" field to define a tiddler (the "actionTiddler") as a 
> "child" of a specific "branch" (the "item") of the tree, and the branch 
> itself uses the "list" field to set the order of display for it's 
> "children").  Also notice that I have different handling for "shift-drop" 
> vs. regular "drop".  
>
> While this isn't exactly what you are trying to do, perhaps it will give 
> you some clues that help you find the right direction...
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: droppable and draggable widgets

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:48:41 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Summary:
>  How to drag and drop a tiddler from one droppable area to another 
> droppable area
>  where the action tiddler removed from list field of tiddler 1 and added 
> to list field of tiddler 2
>

I just recently wrote something similar for the custom TOC macro I use in 
InsideTiddlyWiki.

Here's a link to my code:
http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FTOC%2FMacros

and here's an excerpt showing the relevant handling:
\define toc-item-drop()

<$vars sourcetags={{{ [get[tags]] }}}
   targettags={{{ [get[tags]] }}}>
<$vars oldtag={{{ [enlist!enlist] }}}
   newtag={{{ [enlist!enlist] }}}>
<$reveal default=<> type="match" text="normal"> 
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" $subfilter=
"-[]" />
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" $subfilter=
"[]" />
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<>$field="list" $subfilter=
"-[]" />
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<>$field="list" $subfilter=
"+[insertbefore:item]" />

<$reveal default=<> type="match" text="shift"> 
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" 
$subfilter="-[]" />
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<> $field="tags" $subfilter=
"[]" />
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<>$field="list" $subfilter=
"-[]" />
   <$action-listops $tiddler=<>  $field="list" $subfilter=
"[]" />



\end

Note that I am manipulating both "tags" and "list" fields (the TOC uses 
entries in the "tags" field to define a tiddler (the "actionTiddler") as a 
"child" of a specific "branch" (the "item") of the tree, and the branch 
itself uses the "list" field to set the order of display for it's 
"children").  Also notice that I have different handling for "shift-drop" 
vs. regular "drop".  

While this isn't exactly what you are trying to do, perhaps it will give 
you some clues that help you find the right direction...

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] droppable and draggable widgets

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Summary:
 How to drag and drop a tiddler from one droppable area to another 
droppable area
 where the action tiddler removed from list field of tiddler 1 and added to 
list field of tiddler 2

   1. There are 4 tiddlers: *tid1*, *tid2*, *tid3*, and *tid4*
   2. Two of them are listed in the list field of tiddler *a*
   3. The other two of them are listed in the list field of tiddler *b*
   4. I have two droppable areas
  1. the droppable area for *a* lists tiddlers in tiddler *a *list field
  2. the droppable area for *b *lists tiddlers in tiddler *b* list field
   5. I drag *tid3 *from *b* droppable area to *a* droppable area
   6. I wish an action to
  1. remove *tid3 *from list field of *b*
  2. add *tid3 *to list field of *a*
   
I appreciate your help and suggestion

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Bimlas

No problem. I will add another example sometime tomorrow. I'll let you know.

Best wishes, Josiah

On Thursday, 19 December 2019 20:20:21 UTC+1, bimlas wrote:
>
> Josiah,
>
> This example helped me to discover the shortcomings of my solution. Thanks 
> again!
>
> Could I ask for another diagram that is not so symmetrical, please? It 
> would be better to test the traversal of the "graph".
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How do I show the value of a field of a tiddler?

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:00:39 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Do you mean {{!!myfield}} ?? This is a transclusion. Here the !! means to 
> bring in a field value. Since no tiddler is stated, it defaults to the 
> current tiddler.
>

You could also write:
<$view field="myfield"/> 

-e

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread bimlas
Josiah,

This example helped me to discover the shortcomings of my solution. Thanks 
again!

Could I ask for another diagram that is not so symmetrical, please? It 
would be better to test the traversal of the "graph".

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How do I show the value of a field of a tiddler?

2019-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Do you mean {{!!myfield}} ?? This is a transclusion. Here the !! means to 
bring in a field value. Since no tiddler is stated, it defaults to the 
current tiddler.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 10:46:44 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> My system: TW5.1.19 on tiddlyspot.com
>
> I made a normal tiddler with TW5 markup. I added a field named "myfield". 
> I added a value for that field of "My field value goes here". Then I tried 
> many ways to show the value of the field like this: 
>
> Show value of field called 'myfield': [!!myfield] 2 testwiki!!myfield 3 
> <> 4 <"!!myfield"> 5 !!myfield 
>
>
> I closed and saved the tiddler. None of them worked but <> 
> shows a blank. 
>
> Any ideas how to show the value of this tiddler field? I looked up in help 
> and it didn't show any exact examples but it did say to use "!!myfield" and 
> that didn't work either. 
>
> Thank you for all your help. :)
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
I get the sense that the height of my new button is limited so it displays 
as a gray dash. I wonder if this is a CSS issue.

I made a new CSS class called "studybutton" in the tiddler called 
Stylesheet which is my stylesheet. This stylesheet changes other things in 
the wiki  so I know it is set up correctly.


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Re: [tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad Rahmani
Chunk,
Your code shows you did not followed the instructions in above two post!
notice to the span and the chunk class I have added.

   {{$:/core/images/new-button}}



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 10:12 PM Chuck R.  wrote:

> Thanks Mohammed, I'm still getting just a gray dash for my Add Study
> button. The functionality works, but not the icon. The icon doesn't change
> color or shape. I even saved my TW and used the TW Reload button but that
> didn't help. I also used my browser reload button but that didn't help
> either.
>
> Below is a screenshot of the tiddler that defines the button and the page
> control bar. Notice the custom button is a gray dash.
>
> I even made the image the same in the data field and in the tiddler to
> define the button, and that doesn't work either. I cannot change the color
> of the dash either.
>
> [image: tw5-addstudy2.png]
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[tw5] TW5: How do I show the value of a field of a tiddler?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
My system: TW5.1.19 on tiddlyspot.com

I made a normal tiddler with TW5 markup. I added a field named "myfield". I 
added a value for that field of "My field value goes here". Then I tried 
many ways to show the value of the field like this: 

Show value of field called 'myfield': [!!myfield] 2 testwiki!!myfield 3 <> 4 <"!!myfield"> 5 !!myfield 


I closed and saved the tiddler. None of them worked but <> shows 
a blank. 

Any ideas how to show the value of this tiddler field? I looked up in help 
and it didn't show any exact examples but it did say to use "!!myfield" and 
that didn't work either. 

Thank you for all your help. :)

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Thanks Mohammed, I'm still getting just a gray dash for my Add Study 
button. The functionality works, but not the icon. The icon doesn't change 
color or shape. I even saved my TW and used the TW Reload button but that 
didn't help. I also used my browser reload button but that didn't help 
either. 

Below is a screenshot of the tiddler that defines the button and the page 
control bar. Notice the custom button is a gray dash. 

I even made the image the same in the data field and in the tiddler to 
define the button, and that doesn't work either. I cannot change the color 
of the dash either. 

[image: tw5-addstudy2.png]

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[tw5] TW5: Can we have the pallet setting include theme tweaks settings?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
My system: TW5.1.19 on tiddlyspot.com

This is an idea for the future. 

I'd like to be able to switch between palettes but also between theme 
tweaks under Control Panel > Appearance > Theme Tweaks. Can we set up so 
theme tweaks and the palette colors save under a Palette entry? I tend to 
like my sidebar more narrow before it breaks so I have settings for that. 

Thank you! You all have been very helpful. :)

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[tw5] Re: Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases ('alias' fieldname > 'aliases' ?)

2019-12-19 Thread springer
Mohammad, thank you!

Your generosity in supplying this button code has saved me so much time!

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:50:58 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Springer,
>  I noticed you want to change the field name itself NOT the field value.
>  So just do as below
>
>- create a new tiddler like "change my alias"
>- in the text body copy and paste the below code
>
> <$button> Change alias to aliases
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]has[alias]]">
> <$action-setfield aliases={{!!alias}}/>
> <$action-deletefield alias/>
> 
> 
>
>- save and click the button
>- Always make a backup and work on the trial wiki!
>
> How it works
>
>- find all tiddlers has a filed called alias
>- copy the content of alias field to a new field aliases
>- delete the old field alias
>
> --Mohammad
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad


On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 8:53:30 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Chunk your answer is here
>
>
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Chnage%20Colors%20and%20Styles%20of%20Control%20Buttons
>
>
>1. Create a tiddler tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet
>2. put in the text body
>
> html body.tc-body .chunk .tc-image-new-button {stroke: white;fill:orange;}
> html body.tc-body .chunk .tc-image-new-button:hover {stroke: 
> white;fill:#000;}
>
> This may still work more similar to TW page controls.

--Mohammad 

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[tw5] TW5: Can TW get the browser name?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
My system: TW5.1.19 running on tiddlyspot.com, markup is TW5

This is a minor issue, just out of curiosity. I found variables in TW5.1.19 
that show if the TW is running in a browser, the width and height of the 
browser window and some other things. I was wondering if there was a 
variable that shows the browser name.

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi Chunk your answer is here

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Chnage%20Colors%20and%20Styles%20of%20Control%20Buttons


   1. Create a tiddler tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet
   2. put in the text body

html body.tc-body .chunk .tc-image-new-button {stroke: white;fill:orange;}


   1. modify your code as below

<$button class=<> tooltip="Add new study tiddler">
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}
   
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
  <$text text="New Study"/>
   
   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
text={{AddStudyTemplate}}/>



Good luck
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Favorites plugin: new update 3.1.0

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Mohammed, this is great! You must be some kind of genius. 
:)


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[tw5] TW5.1.19: Can I copy the contents of a whole web page into a tiddler?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
My system: TW5.1.19, using TW5 markup, TW is on tiddlyspot.com

This issue is not a big deal but I was curious if I could save a single web 
page as HTML as a tiddler, like via drag and drop, so it would show me the 
contents of that page in TW as it was when I dragged it there. 

Or even as an alternate, a tiddler would load a single webpage into the 
tiddler and show it as it is right now, a live copy if you will, which 
would requite an internet connection. 

One of my applications is to hold the whole study page in the tiddler, like 
a static mirror of that page.

Sorry for all the newbie questions, but I'm exploring TW and finding all 
kinds of possibilities! This is too much fun. :)

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[tw5] Re: Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases ('alias' fieldname > 'aliases' ?)

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Springer,
 I noticed you want to change the field name itself NOT the field value.
 So just do as below

   - create a new tiddler like "change my alias"
   - in the text body copy and paste the below code

<$button> Change alias to aliases
<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]has[alias]]">
<$action-setfield aliases={{!!alias}}/>
<$action-deletefield alias/>



   - save and click the button
   - Always make a backup and work on the trial wiki!

How it works

   - find all tiddlers has a filed called alias
   - copy the content of alias field to a new field aliases
   - delete the old field alias

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Mohammed, now I have an Add Study button that is a shorter gray dash. My 
button definition is now: 
<$button class=<> tooltip="Add new study tiddler">
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
@@fill:orange;
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}
@@
   
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
  <$text text="New Study"/>
   
   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
text={{AddStudyTemplate}}/>



I'm trying to use the existing add button SVG image but change the fill or 
foreground to another color. 

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[tw5] Re: Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases ('alias' fieldname > 'aliases' ?)

2019-12-19 Thread springer
Mohammad, I had noticed a write-up of Commander while browsing plugins, and 
it looks amazing! Your confirmation that it could do something like this 
(generate and populate an aliases field for all the tiddlers that had an 
alias field) is great. I'm sure it'll take more than a moment for me to 
gain confidence in how to use it for this purpose, but you've pointed me in 
the right direction. 

Thanks!

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:29:11 AM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Springer,
> for batch operation you may have a look at
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/
>
> It is kind of Swiss knife for tiddler operation!
> Read carefully the help page: 
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fkookma%2Fcommander%2Fhelp%2Fui
>
> before start using it!
> OF COURSE: make a backup before any test!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 6:44:34 PM UTC+3:30, springer wrote:
>>
>> Hooray, uni-link is indeed the right kind of thing!
>>
>> But gosh... With hundreds of tiddlers coming over from TW Classic, each 
>> with a field called alias ...
>> Is there a way to get that FIELDNAME batch-converted on my existing 
>> tiddlers, so that it's now called aliases ?  
>>
>> Minor additional follow-up: I notice that even once these aliases work, 
>> they still render in italics. Would love to have alias links look the same 
>> as other links (not distracting me with a worry that the link is missing, 
>> and not distracting students who wonder why the word is italicized).
>>
>> -Springer
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 9:59:29 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> You might check out Pmario's uni-link:
>>>
>>> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/
>>>
>>> It has multiple options for using aliases.
>>>
>>> A good resource in general for all things TW5 is the tiddly toolmap:
>>>
>>> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases ('alias' fieldname > 'aliases' ?)

2019-12-19 Thread springer
Update: uni-link somehow stopped working for me... could troubleshoot 
later, but...

I switched to Matt's Aliases, which *does* seamlessly hide all 
alias-related stuff from view mode, so in that respect I prefer it (tho' I 
can see why the "Note: this tiddler has aliases..." aspect of uni-link 
would be ideal for a solo-use TW project).

Still, I have the same upgrade challenge: I'd love not to be manually 
generating and populating an aliases field for each of the many tiddlers 
for which I've already populated an alias field...

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 10:14:34 AM UTC-5, springer wrote:
>
> Hooray, uni-link is indeed the right kind of thing!
>
> But gosh... With hundreds of tiddlers coming over from TW Classic, each 
> with a field called alias ...
> Is there a way to get that FIELDNAME batch-converted on my existing 
> tiddlers, so that it's now called aliases ?  
>
> Minor additional follow-up: I notice that even once these aliases work, 
> they still render in italics. Would love to have alias links look the same 
> as other links (not distracting me with a worry that the link is missing, 
> and not distracting students who wonder why the word is italicized).
>
> -Springer
>
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 9:59:29 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> You might check out Pmario's uni-link:
>>
>> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/
>>
>> It has multiple options for using aliases.
>>
>> A good resource in general for all things TW5 is the tiddly toolmap:
>>
>> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases ('alias' fieldname > 'aliases' ?)

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Springer,
for batch operation you may have a look at
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/

It is kind of Swiss knife for tiddler operation!
Read carefully the help 
page: 
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fkookma%2Fcommander%2Fhelp%2Fui

before start using it!
OF COURSE: make a backup before any test!

--Mohammad

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 6:44:34 PM UTC+3:30, springer wrote:
>
> Hooray, uni-link is indeed the right kind of thing!
>
> But gosh... With hundreds of tiddlers coming over from TW Classic, each 
> with a field called alias ...
> Is there a way to get that FIELDNAME batch-converted on my existing 
> tiddlers, so that it's now called aliases ?  
>
> Minor additional follow-up: I notice that even once these aliases work, 
> they still render in italics. Would love to have alias links look the same 
> as other links (not distracting me with a worry that the link is missing, 
> and not distracting students who wonder why the word is italicized).
>
> -Springer
>
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 9:59:29 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> You might check out Pmario's uni-link:
>>
>> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/
>>
>> It has multiple options for using aliases.
>>
>> A good resource in general for all things TW5 is the tiddly toolmap:
>>
>> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread bimlas
Josiah,
 

> I posted a simple chart here for you 
> https://tidbits.wiki/tw_kinship/tw_kinship.html
>

It's more than enough, thank you very much! 

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
This may be give a more consistent result

replace
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible">



with
<$button class=<> >


--Mohammad

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:51:11 PM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:17:36 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>>
>> On the right side of my TW there are default buttons like "+" which adds 
>> a new tiddler. How do I add another ADD button which has predefined content 
>> and tags? I'm adding one study per new tiddler and I'd like each study 
>> tiddler to have a tag of "study" but also have this content as a template: 
>> Source: 
>>
>> ! Findings
>>
>> ! Abstract
>>
>> I'm new to this type of changes to TW so if you could explain each steps, 
>> where each data goes, and speak slowly, I think I will get it. :)
>>
>
> The right hand panel is called "the Sidebar".  The "Page Controls" buttons 
> that appear at the top of the sidebar (e.g., "new tiddler", "control 
> panel", "save changes", etc.) are not stored in a single tiddler.  Rather, 
> each button definition has it's own tiddler, and these tiddlers are all 
> tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls" to indicate that they should appear in 
> that part of the Sidebar.
>
> To define your own button, create a new tiddler (e.g., "MyButton")
>
> 1) First, add the $:/tags/PageControls tags to that tiddler.
> 2) Next, enter your button definition into the text area, like this:
> <$button class=<> >
><$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>   {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
>
><$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>   <$text text="New Study"/>
>
><$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
> text={{MyButtonTemplate}}/>
> 
> 3) Then, add a new field named "caption".  In this field, enter:
> {{$:/core/images/spiral}} New Study
> 4) and add another new field named "description".  In this field, enter:
> Use this button to create a new Study tiddler with default content
>
> Then, create a separate tiddler named "MyButtonTemplate", containing the 
> default content you want, i.e.,
> Source: 
>
> ! Findings
>
> ! Abstract
>
>
> Once you have defined these tiddlers, it will automatically appear as a 
> Page Control at the top of the Sidebar.
>
> You can re-position this button to put it the desired order alongside the 
> other PageControls
> To do this, open the $:/ControlPanel (click the gear icon in the Sidebar).
>
> 1) The $:/ControlPanel has multiple levels of "tabs" for getting to the 
> controls you need.
> 2) Select the "Appearance" tab (across the top).  This will show a second 
> level of tabs:
> "Palette", "Story View", "Theme", "Toolbars" and "Theme Tweaks".
> 3) Select the "Toolbars" tab.  This will show a third level of tabs, 
> displayed vertically on the left:
> "Edit Toolbar", "Editor Toolbar", "Page Toolbar" and "View Toolbar".
> 4) Select the "Page Toolbar" tab.  This will display a set of checkboxes, 
> showing all the buttons that are tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls".
>
> If you've created your tiddler correctly, your new button will appear at 
> the bottom of this list.
> To reposition it, just grab it with the mouse and drag it to move it 
> within the list.
>
> That should do it.  Let me know how it goes...
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi Eric,
 Thanks for this lesson!

Adding elements to Tiddlywiki standard UI is not described clearly in 
tiddlywiki.com! By my best knowledge only adding new tabs to sidebar is 
explained!

I think it would be great if someone could explain in two or three more 
lessons the below items

- adding elements to tiddler view toolbar
- adding elements to tiddler edit toolbar
- adding elements to tiddler editor toolbar

--Mohammad

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:51:11 PM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:17:36 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>>
>> On the right side of my TW there are default buttons like "+" which adds 
>> a new tiddler. How do I add another ADD button which has predefined content 
>> and tags? I'm adding one study per new tiddler and I'd like each study 
>> tiddler to have a tag of "study" but also have this content as a template: 
>> Source: 
>>
>> ! Findings
>>
>> ! Abstract
>>
>> I'm new to this type of changes to TW so if you could explain each steps, 
>> where each data goes, and speak slowly, I think I will get it. :)
>>
>
> The right hand panel is called "the Sidebar".  The "Page Controls" buttons 
> that appear at the top of the sidebar (e.g., "new tiddler", "control 
> panel", "save changes", etc.) are not stored in a single tiddler.  Rather, 
> each button definition has it's own tiddler, and these tiddlers are all 
> tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls" to indicate that they should appear in 
> that part of the Sidebar.
>
> To define your own button, create a new tiddler (e.g., "MyButton")
>
> 1) First, add the $:/tags/PageControls tags to that tiddler.
> 2) Next, enter your button definition into the text area, like this:
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible"
><$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>   {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
>
><$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>   <$text text="New Study"/>
>
><$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
> text={{MyButtonTemplate}}/>
> 
> 3) Then, add a new field named "caption".  In this field, enter:
> {{$:/core/images/spiral}} New Study
> 4) and add another new field named "description".  In this field, enter:
> Use this button to create a new Study tiddler with default content
>
> Then, create a separate tiddler named "MyButtonTemplate", containing the 
> default content you want, i.e.,
> Source: 
>
> ! Findings
>
> ! Abstract
>
>
> Once you have defined these tiddlers, it will automatically appear as a 
> Page Control at the top of the Sidebar.
>
> You can re-position this button to put it the desired order alongside the 
> other PageControls
> To do this, open the $:/ControlPanel (click the gear icon in the Sidebar).
>
> 1) The $:/ControlPanel has multiple levels of "tabs" for getting to the 
> controls you need.
> 2) Select the "Appearance" tab (across the top).  This will show a second 
> level of tabs:
> "Palette", "Story View", "Theme", "Toolbars" and "Theme Tweaks".
> 3) Select the "Toolbars" tab.  This will show a third level of tabs, 
> displayed vertically on the left:
> "Edit Toolbar", "Editor Toolbar", "Page Toolbar" and "View Toolbar".
> 4) Select the "Page Toolbar" tab.  This will display a set of checkboxes, 
> showing all the buttons that are tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls".
>
> If you've created your tiddler correctly, your new button will appear at 
> the bottom of this list.
> To reposition it, just grab it with the mouse and drag it to move it 
> within the list.
>
> That should do it.  Let me know how it goes...
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Bimlas

I posted a simple chart here for you 
https://tidbits.wiki/tw_kinship/tw_kinship.html

There are also a few notes on the two basic types of kinship chart ("term 
charts" & "family trees"). The two approaches are fully compatible.
Also a few notes on the main recognised symbols  that these charts use and 
how colouring can be used well to show descent lines. 

The example chart I include is a "term chart". I think you will find this 
is best for understanding the underlying logic of these charts.

Finally a couple of site links to examples.

If you need any further info please feel free to ask me! 
Very interested to see how you get on!

Hope its useful!
Best wishes, Josiah

On Thursday, 19 December 2019 09:36:14 UTC+1, bimlas wrote:
>
> I'm working on an innovative, new kind of mindmap. To show its skills, I 
> would need an example family tree. I mean the kind of family tree where 
> triangles, rectangles, etc. are marking the family members. I know one of 
> you is looking for a way to represent this kind of family tree, I would ask 
> him/her to give me an example and I try to implement it.
>

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[tw5] Re: Combo Searchbox: search both as "standard search" and "filter search"

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad


On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:21:16 PM UTC+3:30, bimlas wrote:
>
> Another solution: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/demo/tw5/combined-search.html
>
> Try to search for $:/ colour picker (system+shadow tiddlers) or 
> [tag[$:/tags/Macro]] (filter) in the search bar!
>
> If you don't want to override default search results, just rename the 
> tiddler from $:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultList to something else.
>
> TonyM,
>
> Put a space before [ to perform normal search instead of filter. This does 
> not works in Mohammad's solution, but in mine.
>

bimlas,
 Thanks you!
Yes, I use trim[] to remove the trailing blanks perhaps removing it to do 
the normal search

--Mohammad 

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[tw5] Re: Combo Searchbox: search both as "standard search" and "filter search"

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi A Gloom,
 Added the minlength!

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:47:20 PM UTC+3:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> *head hits keyboard*
>
> more to add to list of things to check out-- all looks really good but
>
> just like Lucifer & Sinatra, I must first figure and do it myself-- habit 
> that's really hard to kick
>
> for performance, I think keeping with the default 3 character limit before 
> getting results or using reg exp ^ (beiginning of string), \b (beginning of 
> words), "exact" match-- all depending on how you want your search to be 
> performed.  Definittely limit what fields to search (especially text) if 
> possible.
>

Noted! 

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[tw5] Re: Combo Searchbox: search both as "standard search" and "filter search"

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi Tony!
Seems this is an issue
 - in Tiddlywiki.com you can search as standard search fro a phrases like 
[tag[xx]] and it will search in text to find it!
 - here in combo search this will be interpreted as filter search!

I am thinking how to address this issue.

--Mohammad

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:09:40 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad
>
> I have not tested your example yet but could you just test if the search 
> string begins [ and use is as a filter instead?
>
> perhaps not as a filter if /[ is the prefix remove / for an override?
>
> I just created a number of different sesrches.
>
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases

2019-12-19 Thread springer
uni-link is indeed the right kind of thing!

But gosh... With hundreds of tiddlers coming over from TW Classic, each 
with a field called alias ...
Is there a way to get that FIELDNAME batch-converted on my existing 
tiddlers, so that it's now called aliases ?

-Springer


On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 9:59:29 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You might check out Pmario's uni-link:
>
> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/
>
> It has multiple options for using aliases.
>
> A good resource in general for all things TW5 is the tiddly toolmap:
>
> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM
>
> HTH
>
>

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[tw5] Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases

2019-12-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
You might check out Pmario's uni-link:

https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/uni-link/

It has multiple options for using aliases.

A good resource in general for all things TW5 is the tiddly toolmap:

https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM

HTH

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[tw5] Re: search operator and variables

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Hi Eric,
 Thanks for the update!
This is a great tool to learn filter! and also create custom search UI.

I also added a limit[n] for cases search result in a  big number of tiddlers

--Mohammad

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:24:26 PM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> Another update to http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html 
> SearchAndDestroy
>
> * added "clear inputs" button: [X]
> * added edit-list macro (combines $edit-field widget with droplist to 
> select values)
>- allows typing input OR selecting from droplist
>- used in SearchAndDestroy to enter "tiddlers to search" input
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Is this a bug: removing a tiddler which is tagged say with xx is not removed from xx list filed

2019-12-19 Thread Mohammad
Thanks Jeremy!

@Mario
Thank you for your reply! these kind of things make confusion!
 I will ask to know what is the reason for such behavior.


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Finally upgrading to TW5, troubleshooting aliases

2019-12-19 Thread springer
Dear TW community,

I'm migrating to TW5 after doing all my classroom teaching in TiddlyWiki 
Classic (since 2005!), with deep layers of customizations built up. Now I'm 
trying to recover one favorite old function at a time, while enjoying 
glimpses of the new fancy possibilities...

For classroom use, I avoid CamelCase (w DisableWikiLinks so as not to need 
to "tildify" ~MacIntyre, etc.) 

My happily achieved old behavior (as seen here:  
http://ethics.tiddlyspot.com/#sample ) is that all internal links simply 
knit themselves together, no need to double-bracket, and no need to recall 
difference between original tiddler titles and aliases. (Feel free to poke 
around at old site; I can no longer reconstruct exactly which combination 
of plugins is responsible for the seamless internal links; I stopped 
needing to tinker with it years ago!)

On TW 5, apparently I need to say goodbye to automagical linking (tears 
shed, trying to get over it, but please correct me if I'm wrong!). 

Aliases ought to work though, right? No luck so far... I just looked at 
Stephan Hradek's TW5 Magick after seeing a discussion here, but don't get 
how to port his solution to my site, or how it can work site-wide if it's 
not a plugin... 

See here for how links at my new TW5 are failing for the aliases of 
glossary terms (tried with and without putting double-brackets in alias 
field):  http://ethicsatwes.tiddlyspot.com/#definition

I suspect I'm missing something simple. Please be patient with me, as my 
mind is still very much stuck in my old ecosystem of TW Classic... Thanks 
for any help you can offer!

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Re: [tw5] Is this a bug: removing a tiddler which is tagged say with xx is not removed from xx list filed

2019-12-19 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mohammad

It is actually intentional. The alternative behaviour would be that when 
modifying a tiddler to remove a tag the core would also update any of the tag 
list fields referencing that tiddler. The core avoids such complicated 
semantics in the tiddler store to keep the foundations of TiddlyWiki simple and 
predictable.

Meanwhile, the current behaviour can be very useful. It means that re-tagging a 
tiddler will generally remember its position in the list.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 19 Dec 2019, at 04:27, Mohammad  wrote:
> 
> For example 
> 
> you have 5 tiddlers all tagged with xx, 
> reorder them using the tag pill (this will add a list field to xx with 
> ordered title of above 5 tiddlers)
> and then delete two of them
> now open the xx tiddler and look at the list field you see deleted tiddlers 
> still are listed there!!  this will remain until you reorder them again!
> 
> why?
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Ipfs with TiddlyWiki v0.2.9 is available

2019-12-19 Thread Xavier Maysonnave
Hi Chuck,
You need an Ens capable browser. Either install MetaMask on Firefox, Chrome
or Chromium or use https://bluelightav.eth.link to reach the wiki. In my
previous answer I provider an Ipfs link. Worth to try it too. Once you
reach the wiki there is a full documentation. The readme on GitHub has
additional informations.
Warmly

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> When I try to reach bluelightav.eth I get an error "Could not find IP
> address". It might be blocked by my DNS server or something at work. My
> work seems to use a third party DNS blocker of some kind.
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[tw5] Re: TIP TW5: How to hide text

2019-12-19 Thread 'Torax Malu' via TiddlyWiki
well, if such kind of information is so welcomed, I've an addition to the 
interpreter-template. I want to have for a special branch in my TW the 
option for interpretation e.g. JSON-Tiddler. The <$reveal>-Widget is very 
handy in combination with the CSS to hide the normal 
Tiddler-Interpretation. Mohammad helped me with this very much. Here the 
conclusion:

Target: Customized Template-View for Tiddler
Conclusion (in short)
- Tiddly Wiki adds the own defined Template simply to it's own output.
- Hiding this output via CSS ==> Resulting displaying the customized output.

Solution: 
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Conditionally%20Display%20The%20Tiddler%20Contents

Selectors for CSS see here:

   - https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Custom%20styles%20by%20data-tags
   - https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Custom%20Styles%20FAQ
   
Another HTML-Attribute to apply this filter may be the tiddler title stored 
in data-tiddler-title for filtering in given trees of tags. Here the 
filtering of the beginning (e.g. 
:/ as a name-space for passwords.)
(See Tree-Macro  and 
Table-Of-Content-Macros 
.)

Thanks to Mohammad and others collecting the information.


Now - not all tiddler in this branch are JSON-Tiddler. So I add to the 
interpretation these codes:

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[network]]">
<$reveal type="match" state="!!type" text="application/json">
testKey: {{##testKey}}
<$edit-text tiddler=<> index="testKey" tag="input" />


<$reveal type="nomatch" state="!!type" text="application/json">
<$view />





The reveal only interpretes the tiddler only with the given template, if it 
has type JSON. Otherwise it will display the content as normal TW-Text. You 
can also add other protections like version-fields and so on, but I think 
the basic ideas is visible.

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[tw5] Re: Ipfs with TiddlyWiki v0.2.9 is available

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
When I try to reach bluelightav.eth I get an error "Could not find IP 
address". It might be blocked by my DNS server or something at work. My 
work seems to use a third party DNS blocker of some kind. 


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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Ok the action is working but the button is still showing up in the page 
control area on the sidebar as a gray dash. Here's my code in the  
"AddStudyButton" tiddler. 

<$button class="studybutton">
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
@@fill:orange;  {{$:/core/images/new-button}}@@
   
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
  <$text text="New Study"/>
   


   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
text={{AddStudyTemplate}}/>




Note that I took out the class from button of "tc-btn-invisible" because a 
space would appear in the page controls where the button was supposed to 
be. 

I replaced "tc-btn-invisible" with the class "studybutton" which is in my 
TW global "Stylesheet". 
.studybutton { color:orange; }


I don't understand why the button is rendering as a gray dash when my new 
button image is the old $:core/images/new-button.




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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 4:58:09 AM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> You don't need to make a new button image.  "Spiral" is an SVG image.  For 
> *most* SVG images, you can change the color using the "@@fill:... @@" 
> inline CSS syntax, like this:
> @@fill:orange; {{$:/core/images/spiral}}@@
>

Oh... I see you wanted to use the New Tiddler "+" image.   In that case, 
use: 
@@fill:orange; {{$:/core/images/new-button}}@@

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 4:49:01 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> I can change the icon for my Add Study button by changing the spiral image 
> in this line right?
>  <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>   {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
>
>  
> For the Add Study icon I plan to clone the add button and just color the 
> fill to orange to make it simple. I still have to figure out how to change 
> the color still.
>

You don't need to make a new button image.  "Spiral" is an SVG image.  For 
*most* SVG images, you can change the color using the "@@fill:... @@" 
inline CSS syntax, like this:
@@fill:orange; {{$:/core/images/spiral}}@@

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 4:44:48 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric. Now I can see how all the parts link together and understand 
> how it all works. 
>
> I did get the new spiral button on the page control bar but it also has a 
> "" on the page control bar. My first thought is a mismatched or 
> extra "" but I don't see one. Any ideas what is going on? I simply 
> copied and pasted your code from this group into the tiddler. 
>

The first line of the example button definition seems to have lost a 
closing ">" when I copied it into the GoogleGroups message.
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible"

should be:
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible">

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
I can change the icon for my Add Study button by changing the spiral image 
in this line right?
 <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
  {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
   
 
For the Add Study icon I plan to clone the add button and just color the 
fill to orange to make it simple. I still have to figure out how to change 
the color still.

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Thanks Eric. Now I can see how all the parts link together and understand 
how it all works. 

I did get the new spiral button on the page control bar but it also has a 
"" on the page control bar. My first thought is a mismatched or 
extra "" but I don't see one. Any ideas what is going on? I simply 
copied and pasted your code from this group into the tiddler. 

2 changes I made: 

But button tiddler title is actually "AddStudyButton" and I made this 
change to rename the AddStudyTemplate: 
   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
text={{AddStudyTemplate}}/>


[image: tw5-addstudy1.png]


On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 7:21:11 AM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:17:36 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>>
>> On the right side of my TW there are default buttons like "+" which adds 
>> a new tiddler. How do I add another ADD button which has predefined content 
>> and tags? I'm adding one study per new tiddler and I'd like each study 
>> tiddler to have a tag of "study" but also have this content as a template: 
>> Source: 
>>
>> ! Findings
>>
>> ! Abstract
>>
>> I'm new to this type of changes to TW so if you could explain each steps, 
>> where each data goes, and speak slowly, I think I will get it. :)
>>
>
> The right hand panel is called "the Sidebar".  The "Page Controls" buttons 
> that appear at the top of the sidebar (e.g., "new tiddler", "control 
> panel", "save changes", etc.) are not stored in a single tiddler.  Rather, 
> each button definition has it's own tiddler, and these tiddlers are all 
> tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls" to indicate that they should appear in 
> that part of the Sidebar.
>
> To define your own button, create a new tiddler (e.g., "MyButton")
>
> 1) First, add the $:/tags/PageControls tags to that tiddler.
> 2) Next, enter your button definition into the text area, like this:
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible"
><$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>   {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
>
><$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>   <$text text="New Study"/>
>
><$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
> text={{MyButtonTemplate}}/>
> 
> 3) Then, add a new field named "caption".  In this field, enter:
> {{$:/core/images/spiral}} New Study
> 4) and add another new field named "description".  In this field, enter:
> Use this button to create a new Study tiddler with default content
>
> Then, create a separate tiddler named "MyButtonTemplate", containing the 
> default content you want, i.e.,
> Source: 
>
> ! Findings
>
> ! Abstract
>
>
> Once you have defined these tiddlers, it will automatically appear as a 
> Page Control at the top of the Sidebar.
>
> You can re-position this button to put it the desired order alongside the 
> other PageControls
> To do this, open the $:/ControlPanel (click the gear icon in the Sidebar).
>
> 1) The $:/ControlPanel has multiple levels of "tabs" for getting to the 
> controls you need.
> 2) Select the "Appearance" tab (across the top).  This will show a second 
> level of tabs:
> "Palette", "Story View", "Theme", "Toolbars" and "Theme Tweaks".
> 3) Select the "Toolbars" tab.  This will show a third level of tabs, 
> displayed vertically on the left:
> "Edit Toolbar", "Editor Toolbar", "Page Toolbar" and "View Toolbar".
> 4) Select the "Page Toolbar" tab.  This will display a set of checkboxes, 
> showing all the buttons that are tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls".
>
> If you've created your tiddler correctly, your new button will appear at 
> the bottom of this list.
> To reposition it, just grab it with the mouse and drag it to move it 
> within the list.
>
> That should do it.  Let me know how it goes...
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:17:36 AM UTC-8, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> On the right side of my TW there are default buttons like "+" which adds a 
> new tiddler. How do I add another ADD button which has predefined content 
> and tags? I'm adding one study per new tiddler and I'd like each study 
> tiddler to have a tag of "study" but also have this content as a template: 
> Source: 
>
> ! Findings
>
> ! Abstract
>
> I'm new to this type of changes to TW so if you could explain each steps, 
> where each data goes, and speak slowly, I think I will get it. :)
>

The right hand panel is called "the Sidebar".  The "Page Controls" buttons 
that appear at the top of the sidebar (e.g., "new tiddler", "control 
panel", "save changes", etc.) are not stored in a single tiddler.  Rather, 
each button definition has it's own tiddler, and these tiddlers are all 
tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls" to indicate that they should appear in 
that part of the Sidebar.

To define your own button, create a new tiddler (e.g., "MyButton")

1) First, add the $:/tags/PageControls tags to that tiddler.
2) Next, enter your button definition into the text area, like this:
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible"
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
  {{$:/core/images/spiral}}
   
   <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
  <$text text="New Study"/>
   
   <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" tags="study" 
text={{MyButtonTemplate}}/>

3) Then, add a new field named "caption".  In this field, enter:
{{$:/core/images/spiral}} New Study
4) and add another new field named "description".  In this field, enter:
Use this button to create a new Study tiddler with default content

Then, create a separate tiddler named "MyButtonTemplate", containing the 
default content you want, i.e.,
Source: 

! Findings

! Abstract


Once you have defined these tiddlers, it will automatically appear as a 
Page Control at the top of the Sidebar.

You can re-position this button to put it the desired order alongside the 
other PageControls
To do this, open the $:/ControlPanel (click the gear icon in the Sidebar).

1) The $:/ControlPanel has multiple levels of "tabs" for getting to the 
controls you need.
2) Select the "Appearance" tab (across the top).  This will show a second 
level of tabs:
"Palette", "Story View", "Theme", "Toolbars" and "Theme Tweaks".
3) Select the "Toolbars" tab.  This will show a third level of tabs, 
displayed vertically on the left:
"Edit Toolbar", "Editor Toolbar", "Page Toolbar" and "View Toolbar".
4) Select the "Page Toolbar" tab.  This will display a set of checkboxes, 
showing all the buttons that are tagged with "$:/tags/PageControls".

If you've created your tiddler correctly, your new button will appear at 
the bottom of this list.
To reposition it, just grab it with the mouse and drag it to move it within 
the list.

That should do it.  Let me know how it goes...

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread A Gloom
something to start you on, getting ready to slumber like the dead...

the icons/buttons right under the search bar, that area is called the page 
controls bar

displayed by $:/core/ui/SideBarSegments/page-controls & 
$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/pagecontrols

ControlPanel/Toolbars/PageControls and the Tools tab control what is 
displayed there, any custom button you make if tagged as shown below with 
appear listed with the system icons

system buttons can be found here:
More tab, Explorer

core/ui/Buttons/ 

don't edit system buttons but clone one and edit it to make a custom button

tag
$:/tags/PageControls
will put a custom button in the Page Control bar

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread TiddlyTweeter
bimlas wrote:
>
> TiddlyMap is not always usable (as far as I have heard from others)
>

Just an FYI. It is basically the same as for TW, and for a similar reason, 
the graphing system behind TiddlyMap can't depict "conjunction" and 
"descent" at same time. So it can only do "unilineal descent" (i.e. through 
fathers or mothers, but not through both ["bilateral descent"] at the same 
time). I discussed it at one point with Felix on GitHub. He thinks there is 
no way round that problem in TiddlyMap.

Best wishes
Josiah  

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Some feedback: 

I made a tiddler with 3 tasks as a todo list. Then marked one task as 
checked, saved the tiddler, closed the tiddler, and reopened it. My 
checkmark was now gone. Can you add a sentence in chapter 9.2 that notes 
checkmarks are not saved in the tiddler?


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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Hi, I'm the local newbie new to TW5. I'm currently using it to collect 
studies on various topics so I will take a look at your section you 
requested. 

Widgets is Ch 9.

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread bimlas
Josiah,
 

> I'm very happy to do this. I'll write up an example with a diagram and  
> put it in a wiki later today for you.
>

Thank you! 

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread bimlas
Chuck R,

You are right, but there is no really good way to traverse the family tree: 
TableOfContents can only display one branch of the family tree, and 
TiddlyMap is not always usable (as far as I have heard from others). I'm 
currently working on a plugin that can easily traverse the family tree 
(though you can't see it because it doesn't display graphically)

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Neat. Are you actually going to use this for a family tree? You could make 
a tiddler for each person use each tiddler's fields for data on one person 
like: birth date, birth place, death date, death place, spouse name, etc.


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[tw5] TW5: How to create another ADD tiddler button with predefined content?

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
My system: TW5.1.19 stored on tiddyspot.com, using Chrome to access it, 
using TW markup

On the right side of my TW there are default buttons like "+" which adds a 
new tiddler. How do I add another ADD button which has predefined content 
and tags? I'm adding one study per new tiddler and I'd like each study 
tiddler to have a tag of "study" but also have this content as a template: 

Source: 

! Findings

! Abstract


I'm new to this type of changes to TW so if you could explain each steps, 
where each data goes, and speak slowly, I think I will get it. :)

1. Which tiddler holds all the buttons at the top of the right hand panel? 
What is this panel called?

Thank you!


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[tw5] Re: Combo Searchbox: search both as "standard search" and "filter search"

2019-12-19 Thread A Gloom
*head hits keyboard*

more to add to list of things to check out-- all looks really good but

just like Lucifer & Sinatra, I must first figure and do it myself-- habit 
that's really hard to kick

for performance, I think keeping with the default 3 character limit before 
getting results or using reg exp ^ (beiginning of string), \b (beginning of 
words), "exact" match-- all depending on how you want your search to be 
performed.  Definittely limit what fields to search (especially text) if 
possible.

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[tw5] Re: Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Bimlas

I'm very happy to do this. I'll write up an example with a diagram and  put 
it in a wiki later today for you.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Thursday, 19 December 2019 09:36:14 UTC+1, bimlas wrote:
>
> I'm working on an innovative, new kind of mindmap. To show its skills, I 
> would need an example family tree. I mean the kind of family tree where 
> triangles, rectangles, etc. are marking the family members. I know one of 
> you is looking for a way to represent this kind of family tree, I would ask 
> him/her to give me an example and I try to implement it.
>

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-19 Thread Chuck R.
Thanks Luis. I love that your PDF has a clickable table of contents. That's 
really handy. 

>
>

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[tw5] Re: search operator and variables

2019-12-19 Thread Eric Shulman
Another update to http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html 
SearchAndDestroy

* added "clear inputs" button: [X]
* added edit-list macro (combines $edit-field widget with droplist to 
select values)
   - allows typing input OR selecting from droplist
   - used in SearchAndDestroy to enter "tiddlers to search" input

enjoy,
-e



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[tw5] Re: Combo Searchbox: search both as "standard search" and "filter search"

2019-12-19 Thread bimlas
Another solution: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/demo/tw5/combined-search.html

Try to search for $:/ colour picker (system+shadow tiddlers) or 
[tag[$:/tags/Macro]] (filter) in the search bar!

If you don't want to override default search results, just rename the 
tiddler from $:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultList to something else.

TonyM,

Put a space before [ to perform normal search instead of filter. This does 
not works in Mohammad's solution, but in mine.

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[tw5] Re: Combo Searchbox: search both as "standard search" and "filter search"

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
Mohammad

I have not tested your example yet but could you just test if the search string 
begins [ and use is as a filter instead?

perhaps not as a filter if /[ is the prefix remove / for an override?

I just created a number of different sesrches.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Any idea how to collapse/expand section within a tiddler

2019-12-19 Thread TonyM
Don't worry more ideas will come along soon :)

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[tw5] Re: Is this a bug: removing a tiddler which is tagged say with xx is not removed from xx list filed

2019-12-19 Thread PMario
On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 5:27:21 AM UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> now open the *xx *tiddler and look at the *list *field you see deleted 
> tiddlers still are listed there!!  this will remain until you reorder them 
> again!
>
> why?
>

It's an oversight.
Does it cause problems for you? Then file an issue at github.
-m

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[tw5] Looking for an example family tree

2019-12-19 Thread bimlas
I'm working on an innovative, new kind of mindmap. To show its skills, I 
would need an example family tree. I mean the kind of family tree where 
triangles, rectangles, etc. are marking the family members. I know one of 
you is looking for a way to represent this kind of family tree, I would ask 
him/her to give me an example and I try to implement it.

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[tw5] Re: SVG for button graphic

2019-12-19 Thread A Gloom

>
>
> The shape of the clickable area is a bit of an issue. I think there is a 
> way round that in that SVG is usable much like "image maps" used to be.
> Here is an example in TW: 
> http://sunypoly-cushinj-project.tiddlyspot.com/#Choose%20a%20County
>

problem with svg links is the shadow DOM, haven't figured how to have TW 
apply linkd inside svg's without manually inserting the link into the svg 
code-- not so much an issue with the typical icon for link.

TW system svg icons (used for buttons) use a button for applying any link 
and the button is a html element which has the square bounding box so the 
blank (padding) area between the actual graphic and its button edges, no an 
issue since the icon usually fills most of the button. -- But with diamonds 
which have considerable blank space in the corners, it becomes obvious.

But the last demo actually used rotated div's and buttons which give true 
diamond shaped clickable areas-- much eadier and just as good-- color, 
border hover changes and animations can be done to them just like with a 
svg.

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[tw5] Re: Any idea how to collapse/expand section within a tiddler

2019-12-19 Thread A Gloom
InflamedSebi,

Very interesting-- I am finding myself unable to keep up with all the ideas 
everyone presents here : )

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