[tw5] Re: mathematics operators add field values

[Dave]

Ok, cool. Thanks Eric!

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[tw5] Re: mathematics operators add field values

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 8:47:53 PM UTC-8, Dave wrote:
>
> I have a tiddler named "math example" with two fields: "one" = 7 and "two" 
> = 8
>
> if I put this in the filter part of the advanced search field
> [tag[math example]get[text]length[]sum[]]
>
> it gives the result "18" because the text in them (2 tiddlers tagged "math 
> example") is "bla bla" and "bla bla bla" respectively (7 and 11 characters 
> long)
>
> but how would I get  a sum of the two fields in that original tiddler?
>
> if I do this:
> [title[math example]get[two]sum[]]
>
> it returns "8" and likewise "7" for "get[one]"
>
> but this doesn't work at all:
> [title[math example]get[two]get[one]sum[]]
>
>
> Is what I'm trying to do possible with just the normal TW5 tools?
> (version 5.1.21)  I also tried putting a "+" between them and also 
> starting both with "=" (i.e. ...=get[one]=get[two]...)
>

You need to retrieve each field value in a separate filter run... then use 
sum[] to add them:
[title[math example]get[one]] [title[math example]get[two]] +[sum[]]

enjoy,
-e

 

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[tw5] mathematics operators add field values

[Dave]

I have a tiddler named "math example" with two fields: "one" = 7 and "two" 
= 8

if I put this in the filter part of the advanced search field
[tag[math example]get[text]length[]sum[]]

it gives the result "18" because the text in them (2 tiddlers tagged "math 
example") is "bla bla" and "bla bla bla" respectively (7 and 11 characters 
long)

but how would I get  a sum of the two fields in that original tiddler?

if I do this:
[title[math example]get[two]sum[]]

it returns "8" and likewise "7" for "get[one]"

but this doesn't work at all:
[title[math example]get[two]get[one]sum[]]


Is what I'm trying to do possible with just the normal TW5 tools?
(version 5.1.21)  I also tried putting a "+" between them and also starting 
both with "=" (i.e. ...=get[one]=get[two]...)

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with Python

[TonyM]

Folks

Can we include a simple overview for people not familiar with python and its 
environment? I presume you can get it for multiple os implementations and make 
use of it on most platforms. Does it have defaults that may clash with other 
local hosts or specific ports etc... Basicaly we need to provide the 
information people need to select it without first installing it.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Can I Steal Your Work?

[TonyM]

TT

So thoughts

Each plugin should specify its licence but typically they are so open you can 
modify and redistribute. The only fair limitation is to not pass one plugin off 
as someone else's with changes as this can undermine the authors version 
control. Bundled plugins have typically being distributed as editions but I see 
no reason not to bundle plugins perhaps in a json bundle. I think the key is to 
list and acknowledge what you have used and included if for no other reason 
than informing the user however I think a key approach is to respect others 
work.

If publishing a bundle modifications or additions that impact the core or 
another's plugin macro should be documented so no one seeks support from the 
author when its your mods breaking something. 

When bundling others work unaltered check the source is documented so should an 
update be required say with a core update then people can source the latest 
version. The danger of a repackage can be components age.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Can I Steal Your Work?

[Magnus]

Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal
T. S. Eliot

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with Python

[Mohammad]

Good improvements
Thanks for the update!

--Mohammad



On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 9:45:16 PM UTC+3:30, UBi wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> here is a slightly improved version of twserver.py (moved timestamp before 
> .html in backup file names, tidied code).
>
> #!/usr/bin/python3
>
> import datetime, shutil, os, http.server
>
> def makebackup(src):
> (srcpath, srcfile) = os.path.split(src)
> (srcname, src_ext) = os.path.splitext(srcfile)
> tstamp=datetime.datetime.now().strftime("%Y%m%d%H%M%S")
> dstpath = os.path.join(srcpath,'twBackups')
> if not os.path.exists(dstpath):
> os.mkdir(dstpath)
> shutil.copyfile(src, os.path.join(dstpath, srcname+'-'+tstamp+src_ext
> ))
>
> class ExtendedHandler(http.server.SimpleHTTPRequestHandler):
> def do_OPTIONS(self):
> self.send_response(200, 'OK')
> self.send_header('allow',
> 'GET,HEAD,POST,OPTIONS,CONNECT,PUT,DAV,dav')
> self.send_header('x-api-access-type','file')
> self.send_header('dav','tw5/put')
> self.end_headers()
> def do_PUT(self):
> path = self.translate_path(self.path)
> makebackup(path)
> with open(path, "wb") as dst:
> dst.write(self.rfile.read(int(self.headers['Content-Length'
> ])))
> self.send_response(200, 'OK')
> self.end_headers()
>
> os.chdir(os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__)))
> http.server.HTTPServer(('localhost',8080),ExtendedHandler).serve_forever()
>
> Like it's template, 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20via%20a%20Minimal%20Ruby%20Server, it 
> covers only the bare minimum TW server needs.
> Feel free to use it / customise it at will.
>
> Am Samstag, 28. Dezember 2019 17:52:43 UTC+1 schrieb UBi:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I had some spare time recently, so I tried to re-implement the Ruby 
>> Server in Python:
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/python3
>>
>> from http.server import SimpleHTTPRequestHandler, HTTPServer
>> import datetime, shutil, os
>>
>> def makebackup(src):
>> (srcpath, srcfile) = os.path.split(src)
>> tstamp=datetime.datetime.now().strftime("%Y%m%d%H%M%S")
>> dstpath = os.path.join(srcpath,'twBackups')
>> if not os.path.exists(dstpath):
>> os.mkdir(dstpath)
>> shutil.copyfile(src, os.path.join(dstpath, srcfile+'.'+tstamp))
>>
>> class ExtendedHandler(SimpleHTTPRequestHandler):
>> def do_OPTIONS(self):
>> self.send_response(200, 'OK')
>> self.send_header('allow',
>> 'GET,HEAD,POST,OPTIONS,CONNECT,PUT,DAV,dav')
>> self.send_header('x-api-access-type','file')
>> self.send_header('dav','tw5/put')
>> self.end_headers()
>> def do_PUT(self):
>> length = int(self.headers['Content-Length'])
>> path = self.translate_path(self.path)
>> makebackup(path)
>> with open(path, "wb") as dst:
>> dst.write(self.rfile.read(length))
>> self.send_response(200, 'OK')
>> self.send_header('Content-Type', 'text/html')
>> self.end_headers()
>>
>> os.chdir(os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__)))
>> HTTPServer(('localhost',8080),ExtendedHandler).serve_forever()
>>
>> It works for me :-)
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with Python

[UBi]

Hi again,

here is a slightly improved version of twserver.py (moved timestamp before 
.html in backup file names, tidied code).

#!/usr/bin/python3

import datetime, shutil, os, http.server

def makebackup(src):
(srcpath, srcfile) = os.path.split(src)
(srcname, src_ext) = os.path.splitext(srcfile)
tstamp=datetime.datetime.now().strftime("%Y%m%d%H%M%S")
dstpath = os.path.join(srcpath,'twBackups')
if not os.path.exists(dstpath):
os.mkdir(dstpath)
shutil.copyfile(src, os.path.join(dstpath, srcname+'-'+tstamp+src_ext))

class ExtendedHandler(http.server.SimpleHTTPRequestHandler):
def do_OPTIONS(self):
self.send_response(200, 'OK')
self.send_header('allow','GET,HEAD,POST,OPTIONS,CONNECT,PUT,DAV,dav'
)
self.send_header('x-api-access-type','file')
self.send_header('dav','tw5/put')
self.end_headers()
def do_PUT(self):
path = self.translate_path(self.path)
makebackup(path)
with open(path, "wb") as dst:
dst.write(self.rfile.read(int(self.headers['Content-Length'])))
self.send_response(200, 'OK')
self.end_headers()

os.chdir(os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__)))
http.server.HTTPServer(('localhost',8080),ExtendedHandler).serve_forever()

Like it's template, 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20via%20a%20Minimal%20Ruby%20Server, it 
covers only the bare minimum TW server needs.
Feel free to use it / customise it at will.

Am Samstag, 28. Dezember 2019 17:52:43 UTC+1 schrieb UBi:
>
> Hello,
>
> I had some spare time recently, so I tried to re-implement the Ruby Server 
> in Python:
>
> #!/usr/bin/python3
>
> from http.server import SimpleHTTPRequestHandler, HTTPServer
> import datetime, shutil, os
>
> def makebackup(src):
> (srcpath, srcfile) = os.path.split(src)
> tstamp=datetime.datetime.now().strftime("%Y%m%d%H%M%S")
> dstpath = os.path.join(srcpath,'twBackups')
> if not os.path.exists(dstpath):
> os.mkdir(dstpath)
> shutil.copyfile(src, os.path.join(dstpath, srcfile+'.'+tstamp))
>
> class ExtendedHandler(SimpleHTTPRequestHandler):
> def do_OPTIONS(self):
> self.send_response(200, 'OK')
> self.send_header('allow',
> 'GET,HEAD,POST,OPTIONS,CONNECT,PUT,DAV,dav')
> self.send_header('x-api-access-type','file')
> self.send_header('dav','tw5/put')
> self.end_headers()
> def do_PUT(self):
> length = int(self.headers['Content-Length'])
> path = self.translate_path(self.path)
> makebackup(path)
> with open(path, "wb") as dst:
> dst.write(self.rfile.read(length))
> self.send_response(200, 'OK')
> self.send_header('Content-Type', 'text/html')
> self.end_headers()
>
> os.chdir(os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__)))
> HTTPServer(('localhost',8080),ExtendedHandler).serve_forever()
>
> It works for me :-)
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Balancing Potentials With The Reality Of Hours

[Mat]

>
> Why am I always starting from square-one?
>

Because we don't have any practical distribution system of such pre-made 
kits... :-/

<:-)


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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with Python

[Mohammad]

Hi UBi
 Many thanks for your clarification!
Python Server worth to be added to Tiddlywiki.com tiddler on saving and 
working with Tiddlywiki.
Cheers
Mohammad

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 3:32:18 PM UTC+3:30, UBi wrote:
>
> Argl. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_404, 404 means "Not 
> found".
> Thus we could read the yellow lines as
>
> code: 404, message "File not found"
>
> This fits the missing favicon.ico situation.
>
> Am Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2019 12:16:38 UTC+1 schrieb UBi:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> as you can see on the line following the yellow lines, your browser 
>> automatically tries to fetch a favicon.ico file.
>> If there is none, the server sends a 404 error code, usually accompanied 
>> by a short description.
>> It seems that in this case resolving the code to a description went wrong.
>> I can't tell you why, I'm not that familiar with the 
>> SimpleHTTPRequestHandler innards.
>>
>> Am Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2019 08:10:02 UTC+1 schrieb Mohammad:
>>>
>>> The script works fine, I am just curious about the message 404 appears 
>>> on terminal window. I have highlighted them.
>>>
>>> Mohammad@6600K C:\TW\201. Python server  
>>>  
>>> $ python server.py  
>>>   
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>>>  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] code 404, message File not found
>>>  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -  
>>>   
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:37] "GET /wikis/ HTTP/1.1" 200 -
>>>  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:40] "GET /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 
>>> -  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:41] "OPTIONS /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 
>>> 200 -  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:42] code 404, message File not found  
>>>
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:42] "GET /wikis/favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 
>>> 404 -  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:16:16] "PUT /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 
>>> -  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:16:16] "HEAD /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 
>>> - 
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:05] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>>>  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:06] code 404, message File not found
>>>  
>>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:06] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -  
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:30:42 AM UTC+3:30, UBi wrote:

 I will describe my use case on Linux, Windows should work in a similar 
 fashion.

 My TiddlyWiki files live in /home/ubi/TW, abbreviated ~/TW. There I 
 placed the script as twserver.py.
 For a first test, I started it manually in a terminal window:

 /usr/bin/python3 ~/TW/twserver.py
>

 Then I pointed my browser to http://localhost:8080/. Status messages 
 started appearing in the terminal window.

 In the browser window a list of files and directories below ~/TW 
 appeared.

 I opened one of my TW files, notes.html, and created a new Tiddler. The 
 I saved the changes.
 This
 1) backed up ~/TW/notes.html html to 
 ~/TW/twBackups/notes.html.MMDDhhmmss, creating ~/TW/twBackups on the 
 fly.
 2) saved the changes to ~/TW/notes.html.

 Now I have to find out how / where I can add a call to the script to my 
 startup or login procedures.

 HTH UBi




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[tw5] Re: For Moderators: Can we please clean up tags! So they remain useful.

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 5:08:05 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> To me that is really beginning to make sense. I'll sit on it day and 
> comment further.
>

One thing to consider is how many times a particular tag has actually been 
used to tag posts.

I don't know of a way to get all the tag counts in one screen, but you can 
view the list of tags:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!tags/tiddlywiki

and then click through on each tag, one at a time, to see how many posts 
have that tag.

-e 

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[tw5] Re: Can I Steal Your Work?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Repeat for those on email ...

On Sunday, 29 December 2019 14:24:21 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Everyone here is very polite.
>
> But, say, I wanted to create a wiki "LegoKit" bundle that uses YOUR plugin 
> / macro mixed in with 10+ others?
>
> I hold off for respect for you. But would you object, really?
>
> Maybe we are inhibiting TW uptake by *not combing* great plugins and 
> macros into *packages* for end user needs?
>
> Kits for ...
>
>- Mathematicians
>- Literary Writers
>
> ... spring to my mind as obvious cases for Lego-isation.
>
> Thoughts
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: For Moderators: Can we please clean up tags! So they remain useful.

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Eric

To me that is really beginning to make sense. I'll sit on it day and 
comment further.

Best wishes
Josiah 

On Sunday, 29 December 2019 13:54:52 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 4:28:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Eric Shulman wrote: 
>>
>>> Before I remove the above tags, I'd like some confirmation from others 
>>> that they concur.
>>
>>
>> My view is that IF you get no explicit feedback use your own instinct.
>>
>
> OK... I've used my own instinct.  If I removed a tag someone liked, they 
> can let me know and I can always add it back.
>
> I think there are still too many tags (63!)... in fact, there are more 
> tags than are displayed when creating a new post.  This implies that Google 
> Groups itself doesn't expect there to be that many tags!
>
> However, it's not clear which remaining tags should go.  Please review the 
> list and make suggestions for tags that could be removed (and why).
>
> Here's the current list of tags:
>
> Bob
> GitHub
> GoogleGroup
> TWC
> TiddlyMap
> action
> announcement
> bug
> codemirror
> css
> date
> design
> docs
> editor
> evaluation
> favicon
> feature-request
> field
> filters
> font
> html
> import
> keybindings
> keyboard-widget
> language
> legokit
> macro
> maths
> mobile
> newbie
> nodejs
> offtopic
> package
> plugin
> print
> question
> quirk
> regex
> resource
> saving
> search
> server
> singlefile
> snippets
> sort
> svg
> tables
> tags
> template
> theme
> tiddlyserver
> tiddlyspot
> tips
> transclusion
> tutorial
> type
> update
> utc
> variables
> vim
> whitespace
> widget
> wikitext
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: For Moderators: Can we please clean up tags! So they remain useful.

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 4:28:15 AM UTC-8, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Eric Shulman wrote: 
>
>> Before I remove the above tags, I'd like some confirmation from others 
>> that they concur.
>
>
> My view is that IF you get no explicit feedback use your own instinct.
>

OK... I've used my own instinct.  If I removed a tag someone liked, they 
can let me know and I can always add it back.

I think there are still too many tags (63!)... in fact, there are more tags 
than are displayed when creating a new post.  This implies that Google 
Groups itself doesn't expect there to be that many tags!

However, it's not clear which remaining tags should go.  Please review the 
list and make suggestions for tags that could be removed (and why).

Here's the current list of tags:

Bob
GitHub
GoogleGroup
TWC
TiddlyMap
action
announcement
bug
codemirror
css
date
design
docs
editor
evaluation
favicon
feature-request
field
filters
font
html
import
keybindings
keyboard-widget
language
legokit
macro
maths
mobile
newbie
nodejs
offtopic
package
plugin
print
question
quirk
regex
resource
saving
search
server
singlefile
snippets
sort
svg
tables
tags
template
theme
tiddlyserver
tiddlyspot
tips
transclusion
tutorial
type
update
utc
variables
vim
whitespace
widget
wikitext

-e

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[tw5] Re: For Moderators: Can we please clean up tags! So they remain useful.

[TiddlyTweeter]

Eric Shulman wrote: 

> Before I remove the above tags, I'd like some confirmation from others 
> that they concur.


My view is that IF you get no explicit feedback use your own instinct.

It is often an issue here getting consensus. I don't think people don't 
care. 
Rather the numbers are too low for such votes to make sense. 

My take
Josiah
 

On Friday, 27 December 2019 17:15:49 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> tag removal - part 2:
>
> Here's the next short-list of tags I think can be removed:
>
> BobEXE  - just 
> use "Bob"
> TwTube  - 
> project specific single post
> WebVTT  - 
> project specific single post
> activate  - 
> no idea what this means
> backtick  - 
> syntax specific
> discussion  - 
> aren't most posts "discussions"
> edit-text-widget 
>  - 
> too specific
> filters  - use 
> "filter"
> find  - use 
> "search"
> forumuse  - 
> ???
> goodUSEofTAGS 
>  - ???
> html5  - use 
> "html"
> information 
>  - too 
> generic
> lpfs  - too 
> specific
> muuri-touch 
>  - project 
> specific
> organise  - 
> ???
> paragraphs  - 
> ???
> period-rule 
>  - ???
> table  - use 
> "tables"
> tag  - use "tags"
> usage  - too 
> generic
>
> Before I remove the above tags, I'd like some confirmation from others 
> that they concur.
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: For Moderators: Can we please clean up tags! So they remain useful.

[TiddlyTweeter]

Eric, sorry to crap on about this. 

THANKS for beginning to clean up 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!tags/tiddlywiki.

Please note that available tags in the editor  "New Topic" are *also an 
issue* ... At the moment when you create a new thread the offered tags are 
...

action
> activate
> announcement
> backtick
> Bob
> BobEXE
> bug
> bulk
> codemirror
> css
> date
> design
> discussion
> docs
> done
> edit-text-widget
> editor
> evaluation
> favicon
> feature-request
> field
> filter
> filters
> find
> font
> forumuse
> GitHub
> goodUSEofTAGS
> GoogleGroup
> html
> html5
> import
> information
> keybindings
> keyboard-widget
> language
> legokit
> lpfs
> macro
> maths


I just think that tidying the tags will (1) make more sense; (2) help 
people find things later!

I feel slightly anal complaining, but I do think it is an issue.

Thanks for your efforts!
Josiah

On Friday, 27 December 2019 17:15:49 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> tag removal - part 2:
>
> Here's the next short-list of tags I think can be removed:
>
> BobEXE  - just 
> use "Bob"
> TwTube  - 
> project specific single post
> WebVTT  - 
> project specific single post
> activate  - 
> no idea what this means
> backtick  - 
> syntax specific
> discussion  - 
> aren't most posts "discussions"
> edit-text-widget 
>  - 
> too specific
> filters  - use 
> "filter"
> find  - use 
> "search"
> forumuse  - 
> ???
> goodUSEofTAGS 
>  - ???
> html5  - use 
> "html"
> information 
>  - too 
> generic
> lpfs  - too 
> specific
> muuri-touch 
>  - project 
> specific
> organise  - 
> ???
> paragraphs  - 
> ???
> period-rule 
>  - ???
> table  - use 
> "tables"
> tag  - use "tags"
> usage  - too 
> generic
>
> Before I remove the above tags, I'd like some confirmation from others 
> that they concur.
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with Python

[UBi]

Argl. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_404, 404 means "Not 
found".
Thus we could read the yellow lines as

code: 404, message "File not found"

This fits the missing favicon.ico situation.

Am Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2019 12:16:38 UTC+1 schrieb UBi:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> as you can see on the line following the yellow lines, your browser 
> automatically tries to fetch a favicon.ico file.
> If there is none, the server sends a 404 error code, usually accompanied 
> by a short description.
> It seems that in this case resolving the code to a description went wrong.
> I can't tell you why, I'm not that familiar with the 
> SimpleHTTPRequestHandler innards.
>
> Am Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2019 08:10:02 UTC+1 schrieb Mohammad:
>>
>> The script works fine, I am just curious about the message 404 appears on 
>> terminal window. I have highlighted them.
>>
>> Mohammad@6600K C:\TW\201. Python server  
>>  
>> $ python server.py
>> 
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>>  
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] code 404, message File not found
>>  
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -
>> 
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:37] "GET /wikis/ HTTP/1.1" 200 -
>>  
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:40] "GET /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>> 
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:41] "OPTIONS /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 
>> 200 -  
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:42] code 404, message File not found  
>>
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:42] "GET /wikis/favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 
>> 404 -  
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:16:16] "PUT /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>> 
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:16:16] "HEAD /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 
>> - 
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:05] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>>  
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:06] code 404, message File not found
>>  
>> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:06] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:30:42 AM UTC+3:30, UBi wrote:
>>>
>>> I will describe my use case on Linux, Windows should work in a similar 
>>> fashion.
>>>
>>> My TiddlyWiki files live in /home/ubi/TW, abbreviated ~/TW. There I 
>>> placed the script as twserver.py.
>>> For a first test, I started it manually in a terminal window:
>>>
>>> /usr/bin/python3 ~/TW/twserver.py

>>>
>>> Then I pointed my browser to http://localhost:8080/. Status messages 
>>> started appearing in the terminal window.
>>>
>>> In the browser window a list of files and directories below ~/TW 
>>> appeared.
>>>
>>> I opened one of my TW files, notes.html, and created a new Tiddler. The 
>>> I saved the changes.
>>> This
>>> 1) backed up ~/TW/notes.html html to 
>>> ~/TW/twBackups/notes.html.MMDDhhmmss, creating ~/TW/twBackups on the 
>>> fly.
>>> 2) saved the changes to ~/TW/notes.html.
>>>
>>> Now I have to find out how / where I can add a call to the script to my 
>>> startup or login procedures.
>>>
>>> HTH UBi
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Balancing Potentials With The Reality Of Hours

[TiddlyTweeter]

Repeat for those on email ...

On Sunday, 29 December 2019 12:50:11 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> A generally frustrating thing with TW is it is very powerful but it can 
> take ages to derive a set of (macro machines & ui design, not content) 
> Tiddlers that works for final usage.
>
> IMO I think we are seriously overlooking "LegoKits" to *start *from.
>
> Why am I always starting from square-one?
>
> Just probing
> TT
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Easy local saving with Python

[UBi]

Hi Mohammad,

as you can see on the line following the yellow lines, your browser 
automatically tries to fetch a favicon.ico file.
If there is none, the server sends a 404 error code, usually accompanied by 
a short description.
It seems that in this case resolving the code to a description went wrong.
I can't tell you why, I'm not that familiar with the 
SimpleHTTPRequestHandler innards.

Am Sonntag, 29. Dezember 2019 08:10:02 UTC+1 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> The script works fine, I am just curious about the message 404 appears on 
> terminal window. I have highlighted them.
>
> Mohammad@6600K C:\TW\201. Python server
>
> $ python server.py
> 
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 -
>
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] code 404, message File not found
>  
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:14:54] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -
> 
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:37] "GET /wikis/ HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:40] "GET /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
> 
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:41] "OPTIONS /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 
> -  
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:42] code 404, message File not found  
>
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:15:42] "GET /wikis/favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 
> -  
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:16:16] "PUT /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
> 
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:16:16] "HEAD /wikis/tw.html HTTP/1.1" 200 -  
>
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:05] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 -
>
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:06] code 404, message File not found
>  
> 127.0.0.1 - - [29/Dec/2019 09:41:06] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 -
> 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:30:42 AM UTC+3:30, UBi wrote:
>>
>> I will describe my use case on Linux, Windows should work in a similar 
>> fashion.
>>
>> My TiddlyWiki files live in /home/ubi/TW, abbreviated ~/TW. There I 
>> placed the script as twserver.py.
>> For a first test, I started it manually in a terminal window:
>>
>> /usr/bin/python3 ~/TW/twserver.py
>>>
>>
>> Then I pointed my browser to http://localhost:8080/. Status messages 
>> started appearing in the terminal window.
>>
>> In the browser window a list of files and directories below ~/TW appeared.
>>
>> I opened one of my TW files, notes.html, and created a new Tiddler. The I 
>> saved the changes.
>> This
>> 1) backed up ~/TW/notes.html html to 
>> ~/TW/twBackups/notes.html.MMDDhhmmss, creating ~/TW/twBackups on the 
>> fly.
>> 2) saved the changes to ~/TW/notes.html.
>>
>> Now I have to find out how / where I can add a call to the script to my 
>> startup or login procedures.
>>
>> HTH UBi
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: putfirst and putlast

[Mohammad]

Thanks Thomas!

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:21:21 PM UTC+3:30, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> If you follow the links in the docs you should find examples like 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#putfirst%20Operator%20(Examples)

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[tw5] Re: putfirst and putlast

[Thomas Elmiger]

If you follow the links in the docs you should find examples like 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#putfirst%20Operator%20(Examples)

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[tw5] Re: putfirst and putlast

[Mohammad]

Hi Thomas,
 Thank you for your note!
Documentation is not clear and hopefully Jeremy add some examples!


On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:00:57 PM UTC+3:30, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad, 
>
> According to the documentation putfirst and putlast move a number of items 
> to *the other* end of the list. So in your case you would have to make 
> complicated calculations... Maybe the naming evokes the impression that 
> they move defined items to the beginning or the end of the list. But they 
> do that only for items already at an end of the list, not for any item. 
>
> My advice would be to make three steps. First store cc in a variable. Then 
> remove it from the list. Then append or prepend to the list.
>

Yes, this is a good trick! lets try it.

Cheers
Mohammad


 

> All the best, 
> Thomas 
>
>

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[tw5] putfirst and putlast

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Mohammad, 

According to the documentation putfirst and putlast move a number of items to 
*the other* end of the list. So in your case you would have to make complicated 
calculations... Maybe the naming evokes the impression that they move defined 
items to the beginning or the end of the list. But they do that only for items 
already at an end of the list, not for any item. 

My advice would be to make three steps. First store cc in a variable. Then 
remove it from the list. Then append or prepend to the list.

All the best, 
Thomas 

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[tw5] Re: Can I get template-based transclusions to stick to lowest level in nested contexts?

[PMario]

Hi, 

Your templates should always use the "currentTiddler" variable. That's how 
TW works. If you use your own variable names, you'll end up with the 
problems you described, since it breaks the "transclusion chain"

If you use the list-widget, it uses currentTiddler as the default variable. 
... You can set your own variable ... BUT it should only be done, if you 
know what you do and why.

Have a closer look a the "tab macro" implementation 
. ... It may help 
you to understand, what's going on. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: Can I get template-based transclusions to stick to lowest level in nested contexts?

[PMario]

Edited last post:

It seems you doing it wrong. If {{childtabs}} is a template it will set the 
> currentTiddler variable to "childtabs". 
>

-m

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[tw5] Re: Can I get template-based transclusions to stick to lowest level in nested contexts?

[PMario]

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:07:39 AM UTC+1, springer wrote:
...

> But as it is, trying to drill down (when the {{childtabs}} and 
> {{childtabs-vert}} templates are in use) shows either a tab set that simply 
> replicates the enclosing set, or a recursive transclusion error — which I 
> especially want to avoid in a teaching resource site! (Meanwhile, other 
> transclusions I'm using end up just showing nothing at all when the tiddler 
> they're part of is being rendered as a tab within a tiddler that doesn't 
> have the relevant fields.)
>

It seems you doing it wrong. If {{childtabs}} is a template it will set the 
currentTiddler variable to "the calling tiddler name". 

See the transclusion in wikitext 

 
docs. 

eg: You should call it like this: {{||childtabs}} ... See the || !! Now 
currentTiddler in childtabs will be set to the "calling tiddler title". 

 Be aware of the first post, since tabs use: currentTab instead of 
currentTiddler. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Linking tiddlers between wikis

[Jon]

Hi Tony,

I'd be linking one to another on my machine so it would be like your 3rd 
example.
Sounds like this method should be alright then.

Thanks
Jon

On Sunday, 29 December 2019 08:57:10 UTC, TonyM wrote:
>
> Jon,
>
> The nature of the permalinks depends on how you are accessing the wiki in 
> the firstplace such as https://tiddlywiki.com/#HelloThere 
> http://192.168.1.81/Development/!SandboxWikis/CustomButtons.html#HelloThere 
> or file:///C:/Data/TW5/Development/ClassNotes.html#HelloThere
>
> There are ways to address links differently, even construct them from its 
> parts, but simple use of permalinks should work for most basic uses.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 6:57:51 PM UTC+11, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to link tiddlers from one wiki to another and found this on the 
>> forum 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/linking$20between$20wiki%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/ycXUAZ9ngRE/Olz9dTrmAwAJ
>>  which 
>> suggested to me it might not be possible.
>>
>> However, I discovered that copying the Permalink of the tiddler and 
>> pasting that in the other wiki works fine. Not much of a discovery I know, 
>> as that's probably what it's intended to do!
>>
>> Anyway, I'm just checking before I set things up, that this facility is 
>> part of how things work at a fundamental level and it isn't going to change 
>> in response to browser restrictions etc referred to in the original post.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jon
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Can I get template-based transclusions to stick to lowest level in nested contexts?

[PMario]

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:07:39 AM UTC+1, springer wrote:
...

> (Meanwhile, other transclusions I'm using end up just showing nothing at 
> all when the tiddler they're part of is being rendered as a tab within a 
> tiddler that doesn't have the relevant fields.)
>

That's probably a problem mentioned here: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#tabs%20Macro  See the last paragraph. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Linking tiddlers between wikis

[TonyM]

Jon,

The nature of the permalinks depends on how you are accessing the wiki in 
the firstplace such as https://tiddlywiki.com/#HelloThere 
http://192.168.1.81/Development/!SandboxWikis/CustomButtons.html#HelloThere 
or file:///C:/Data/TW5/Development/ClassNotes.html#HelloThere

There are ways to address links differently, even construct them from its 
parts, but simple use of permalinks should work for most basic uses.

Regards
Tony


On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 6:57:51 PM UTC+11, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I want to link tiddlers from one wiki to another and found this on the 
> forum 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/TiddlyWiki/linking$20between$20wiki%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/ycXUAZ9ngRE/Olz9dTrmAwAJ
>  which 
> suggested to me it might not be possible.
>
> However, I discovered that copying the Permalink of the tiddler and 
> pasting that in the other wiki works fine. Not much of a discovery I know, 
> as that's probably what it's intended to do!
>
> Anyway, I'm just checking before I set things up, that this facility is 
> part of how things work at a fundamental level and it isn't going to change 
> in response to browser restrictions etc referred to in the original post.
>
> Regards,
> Jon
>

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[tw5] Using a variabvle to transclude tagged tiddlers - assistence please

[TonyM]

Folks,

In the following code I just can't get the list widget to display its 
contents, including "hi" and transclude all tiddlers tagged with transcludeTag 
or 
\define transcludeTag() {{{ 
[addprefix[$:/autotag/transclude/]] }}}
$:/autotag/transclude transcluding items tagged <>
<$wikify name=tagname text="{{{ [] }}}">
tagname = "<>"
<$list filter="[tagging[]]" variable="transcludeTiddler">
   hi <> <$transclude tiddler=<> 
mode=block />



The tagname displays correctly but does not work in the filter also using 
"[tag]" or [tag]"
If I place the literal name in the filter it works eg 
"[tag[$:/autotag/transclude/New Tiddler 7]]"

I thought I needed to use the wikify widget but no,

What do you think?

Thanks in advance
Tony

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