[tw5] Dynamic list with tiddler names containing a space

[Sandip Deshmukh]

I was trying to create a dynamic list containing a list of all tiddlers 
containing the current tiddler as a member of the field project.

I am in tiddler "B B" that carries the following code:


<$list filter="[project[<>]]">
<$link />



Another tiddler "D D" has [[A A]] and [[B B]] in participants.

So, ideally, "D D" should show up in my "B B" tiddler. But it doesn't.

How do I set things right?

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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[Ed Dixon]

[image: My Brain.jpg]

Thank You! I do have trouble communicating my thoughts clearly and keep
this photo on my phone when I run into situations where I think I may need
to explain why (they do this yearly and there has been no change in the 3/4
inch diameter hole in a very big head LOL). I am not looking for pity but
hoping to help make your point. We are all using TiddlyWiki with our own
understanding and skills. You are also absolutely right, the condensed
updates are as much or more than I can handle personally as is (you guys
are way too busy!) LOL. I keep up with these just to make sure what few
plugins I use are not known or expected to break as TW evolves. Also, I
think it is important that Jeremy has a say in which he wants to use.
Realizing of course the real discussion is happening in GIT but all of that
is way over my head now anyway. Still his announcements about new features
and explanations on how to use those when questions come up here as well as
the base TiddlyWiki without addons or plugins (or at least as minimal a set
as possible) have been extremely helpful to me. So where he goes I need to
go because he knows when he adds new features he needs to make the
explanations and use of them as intuitive and user friendly (there's an old
term!) as possible and most likely with those explanations in mind.
TiddlyWiki itself is the best example that I can think of due to its
simplicity in a way. It has amazing capabilities but an ease of use
unparalleled by programs that have almost none of the customization
capabilities allowing it to be used as needed. I have seen efforts to write
books and manuals fail not due to a lack of effort, knowledge, or ability
but a lack of being able to keep up with the pace TW5 evolves which is an
amazing example of how much work Jeremy and those who help him have
put into this over the years! To me this group does represent a record of
all that effort and progress he might prefer continues here?

But not trying to argue for or against with anyone. LOL I know longer have
those skills either (happily). I am Just trying to keep up, which is
probably a fool's errand anyway but, also offer a reminder that unless
there is a fork planned I personally feel no one should just take the
community he has built here and put it over there without him at least
being a part of that decision.

Thanks!


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:20 PM strikke...@gmail.com <
strikkeglad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tony,
> Ed did not complain. He would not like to miss totally out on the group
> and is afraid that will happen! Explained that his need was to receive
> email summary as that is the only way it would be possible for him to enjoy
> the part possible for him to use. The question was not about the reasoning
> for some to want the move - but: "Will I be able to receive email summary
> from this new group - and if so, can someone help me get it set up?"
>
> Just as when you asked for a couple of days, why you were not able to
> login and get writing in the new group - and asked repeatedly to get help
> from moderators to be able to write to the group. (Sure easy to sign up -
> you now write). Other people have other problems, and not everyone has all
> of your expertise in using all sorts of groups at a professional level.
>
> As a promoter for the move and now a leader in the new group prepare for
> questions like this - and be happy when they are asked. This group is large
> and lots of users have used it for years - but have special needs to be
> able to do so.  If questions like this is not met with answers - those
> users will just be sorry and give up without telling you - and have lost
> yet another thing in life. Please remember that someone's gain is often
> happening while others loose out.
>
> We know that quite some users of this group -found ways to keep using
> Tiddlywiki and this group. And at. some point explained their special needs
> and why they needed a solution. Poor eyesight or blindness has been one of
> them.
>
> I would think that promoting the discourse group - why not make it clear -
> can you use the group directly from receiving emails - emails summary. Can
> you use the group fully if your only way of being able is using a screen
> reader?
>
> Others have written earlier about having difficulty with busy screens,
> moving parts - and lot of colour - lots of changing screens with shifting
> layouts - and even more I cannot remember now. Explain how to use it for
> those - if possible.
>
> If people with special needs are not in the target group for the the new
> group - save time and explain why.
>
> Please think about it - and ask people to explain their problems - and try
> to find solutions. Use those points in the promotion.  Plenty of telling it
> is beautiful, easy, what some wants etc. I think most have read that by now.
>
> And the questions have to be asked before your wished making this group
> read only - because afterwards - you will never know.
>
> Who 

[tw5] Re: 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes

[jwd]

If you are interested in other visualizations like this and related 
software code analysis you might find the book Your Code as a Crime Scene 
 - 
available from various book sellers - usefully thought provoking.  If books 
aren't your bag you can also watch a TEDx talk 
 by the author.

On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 8:18:18 AM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> That is a breathtakingly fantastic creation.
>
> It is like watching a time-lapse chapter from the TiddlyWiki book of 
> Genesis.
>
> I love how it makes TiddlyWiki look like a living critter. (enter Gene 
> Wilder screaming it's alive 
> !)
>
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 3:32:16 PM UTC-3 PMario wrote:
>
>>
>> 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes 
>>  
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[jwd]

If you've not used discourse-based forums I could understand how "summaries 
if one stays away" could seem backwards. I actually find it useful in other 
forums I follow. If you are busy doing other things you'll get a summary of 
popular topics you've missed that can remind you to re-engage. If you are 
actively visiting the forum you won't be bothered with pointless email 
about with things you've probably already seen.

You'll soon learn to re-visit the forum discussions that pique your 
interest from the email and reply there.

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 12:13:47 PM UTC-4 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> It only sends summaries if one stays away from the forum?  What the frig 
> kind of messed-up design is that ?
>
> There are certain kinds of flaws that I can tolerate and some of those 
> even understand, but that design has me feeling this way 
>  about the designer.
>
> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-3 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> Gosh, your situation sounds scary. I don't know if I could stick with it 
>> under your circumstances.
>>
>> Yes, you will need to sign up at talk.tiddlywiki.org. But the good news 
>> is that you can use your existing gmail address, so you won't have to learn 
>> anything new there.
>>
>> Once you sign up, you, or a helper, will need to navigate to the settings:
>>
>> In the upper right hand corner click on your avatar, then on the little 
>> man tab, then on the cog, then from the list on the left click on "Emails". 
>> Under "Activity Summary" you can select to receive a summary weekly, 
>> monthly, or bi-annually.  I could put together some screen shots if that 
>> would help, though I feel that should be done with someone with an official 
>> capacity.
>>
>> The funny thing is, to get these summaries, you have to NEVER visit the 
>> new forum! It only sends you summaries if you stay away!
>>
>> The thing I don't know is if you can reply to a summary, just like to an 
>> email. Maybe an admin can comment. 
>>
>> There is a mail list mode, but it sends you every single post, which I 
>> don't think is what you want. Most other systems have mail list modes with 
>> summaries, but that option isn't on the drop down.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7 eddi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Unless Jeremy plans to do the same sorry but no thanks and even then 
>>> probably not. Other than it being a perhaps more feature rich, and newer 
>>> platform is there really a burning need to make this switch now? I know its 
>>> been debated here for a long time and have read the arguments both for and 
>>> against but this sounds as though it is being forced upon us regardless of 
>>> Jeremys reluctance to do so for some reason. Maybe google has announced it 
>>> is killing off groups, Jeremy has decided it is for the best, or something 
>>> else I am unaware of? (very possible I suffer from brain damage and am no 
>>> longer really in the know anymore, but do rely on getting these emails to 
>>> try and stay up on developments with TiddlyWiki and the plugin work being 
>>> done). I can still use TiddlyWiki to great advantage but no longer have the 
>>> ability to write plugins or do many things I used to do before. Anything 
>>> new is pretty much impossible for me to learn. Will discourse offer these 
>>> email updates like the one I am responding to here and will those of us who 
>>> choose not to join discourse (my mind is unable to learn new things) be 
>>> registered to receive those if this is done or will I need to register my 
>>> email address in their site in order to keep these condensed emails coming 
>>> to me? I also feel there is a wealth of historical information in this 
>>> group that would be a shame if not transferred over (perhaps it has?) 
>>> Anyway, I hope replying to "all" is the proper way to ask. If not I do 
>>> apologize. Also, I am not being critical of this change just explaining my 
>>> inability to do this and feel it is pointless unless Jeremy wants to make 
>>> this change as well. If so I guess this group can still stand as an archive 
>>> of all the history and work that has been done to get us here and if it 
>>> offers that condensed email capability then maybe. I DO NOT want an email 
>>> for every post being made thats is an absolute! 
>>>
>>> Thanks, 
>>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 JW Are you on the specific instance of discourse? 
 https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

 Regards
 Tones

 On Sunday, 22 August 2021 at 20:55:10 UTC+10 JWHoneycutt wrote:

> Signed up for Discourse - can't find any hits when searching 
> "TiddlyWiki" - did I just lose access to the community?
> JWH
>
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 10:23:29 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Definitely moving over to the Discourse community. See you all there!
>>

[tw5] Re: Disable formatting in table

['heusmich' via TiddlyWiki]

Thank you very much, it worked like a charm and now everything looks fine! 
:D

Best regards
heusmich

Eric Shulman schrieb am Dienstag, 24. August 2021 um 21:35:09 UTC+2:

> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 12:16:07 PM UTC-7 heusmich wrote:
>
>> *The command I write into the table:* > xpath="/items/item/property[@name='Stacknumber']/@value">3
>> *What I can see when I save it:* 3
>> So the question is, is it possible to disable the formatting not for the 
>> complete tiddler but for some texts in the tiddler?
>>
>
> TiddlyWiki sees any content inside angle brackets as HTML syntax, which it 
> passes to the browser for processing.
> Thus, in your example, 3, only the 3 
> remains to be rendered by TiddlyWiki.
>
> You can bypass this handling by enclosing the content within single 
> backtick characters, like this:
> `3`
>
> This will tell TiddlyWiki to render the content as ..., which 
> prevents the browser from processing the angle-bracket enclosed content.  
> Note that, by default, TiddlyWiki formats "code" content using red 
> monospaced text on a gray background with a border.  If you want to change 
> this appearance so the content looks like normal text, you can create a 
> tiddler, tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet, containing the following CSS rule:
> .myCode code { color:inherit; background:inherit; border:0; 
> font-family:inherit; }
>
> Then, you can enclose your table content within like this:
> @@.myCode
> |` xpath="/items/item/property[@name='Stacknumber']/@value">3` 
> |Description goes here |
> |`another command here` |Another description here |
> @@
>
> By doing this, any ... within the table will appear as 
> normal, unparsed text.  Q.E.D
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Disable formatting in table

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 12:16:07 PM UTC-7 heusmich wrote:

> *The command I write into the table:*  xpath="/items/item/property[@name='Stacknumber']/@value">3
> *What I can see when I save it:* 3
> So the question is, is it possible to disable the formatting not for the 
> complete tiddler but for some texts in the tiddler?
>

TiddlyWiki sees any content inside angle brackets as HTML syntax, which it 
passes to the browser for processing.
Thus, in your example, 3, only the 3 remains 
to be rendered by TiddlyWiki.

You can bypass this handling by enclosing the content within single 
backtick characters, like this:
`3`

This will tell TiddlyWiki to render the content as ..., which 
prevents the browser from processing the angle-bracket enclosed content.  
Note that, by default, TiddlyWiki formats "code" content using red 
monospaced text on a gray background with a border.  If you want to change 
this appearance so the content looks like normal text, you can create a 
tiddler, tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet, containing the following CSS rule:
.myCode code { color:inherit; background:inherit; border:0; 
font-family:inherit; }

Then, you can enclose your table content within like this:
@@.myCode
|`3` 
|Description goes here |
|`another command here` |Another description here |
@@

By doing this, any ... within the table will appear as normal, 
unparsed text.  Q.E.D

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Disable formatting in table

['heusmich' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi,
I have the following problem:
I´m running some "7 Days to Die" servers and want to start creating some 
mods. To have some kind of guideline I want to create a table in TiddlyWiki 
with some example commands and the descriptions of the commands. The table 
has two columns, in the first column is the command and in the second 
column is the description.
Now I have the problem that the command will automatically be changed, so I 
can´t see the complete command when I save the tiddler.

*Here is an example:*
*The command I write into the table:* 3
*What I can see when I save it:* 3

So the question is, is it possible to disable the formatting not for the 
complete tiddler but for some texts in the tiddler?

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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[Charlie Veniot]

It only sends summaries if one stays away from the forum?  What the frig 
kind of messed-up design is that ?

There are certain kinds of flaws that I can tolerate and some of those even 
understand, but that design has me feeling this way 
 about the designer.

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-3 Mark S. wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Gosh, your situation sounds scary. I don't know if I could stick with it 
> under your circumstances.
>
> Yes, you will need to sign up at talk.tiddlywiki.org. But the good news 
> is that you can use your existing gmail address, so you won't have to learn 
> anything new there.
>
> Once you sign up, you, or a helper, will need to navigate to the settings:
>
> In the upper right hand corner click on your avatar, then on the little 
> man tab, then on the cog, then from the list on the left click on "Emails". 
> Under "Activity Summary" you can select to receive a summary weekly, 
> monthly, or bi-annually.  I could put together some screen shots if that 
> would help, though I feel that should be done with someone with an official 
> capacity.
>
> The funny thing is, to get these summaries, you have to NEVER visit the 
> new forum! It only sends you summaries if you stay away!
>
> The thing I don't know is if you can reply to a summary, just like to an 
> email. Maybe an admin can comment. 
>
> There is a mail list mode, but it sends you every single post, which I 
> don't think is what you want. Most other systems have mail list modes with 
> summaries, but that option isn't on the drop down.
>
>  
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7 eddi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Unless Jeremy plans to do the same sorry but no thanks and even then 
>> probably not. Other than it being a perhaps more feature rich, and newer 
>> platform is there really a burning need to make this switch now? I know its 
>> been debated here for a long time and have read the arguments both for and 
>> against but this sounds as though it is being forced upon us regardless of 
>> Jeremys reluctance to do so for some reason. Maybe google has announced it 
>> is killing off groups, Jeremy has decided it is for the best, or something 
>> else I am unaware of? (very possible I suffer from brain damage and am no 
>> longer really in the know anymore, but do rely on getting these emails to 
>> try and stay up on developments with TiddlyWiki and the plugin work being 
>> done). I can still use TiddlyWiki to great advantage but no longer have the 
>> ability to write plugins or do many things I used to do before. Anything 
>> new is pretty much impossible for me to learn. Will discourse offer these 
>> email updates like the one I am responding to here and will those of us who 
>> choose not to join discourse (my mind is unable to learn new things) be 
>> registered to receive those if this is done or will I need to register my 
>> email address in their site in order to keep these condensed emails coming 
>> to me? I also feel there is a wealth of historical information in this 
>> group that would be a shame if not transferred over (perhaps it has?) 
>> Anyway, I hope replying to "all" is the proper way to ask. If not I do 
>> apologize. Also, I am not being critical of this change just explaining my 
>> inability to do this and feel it is pointless unless Jeremy wants to make 
>> this change as well. If so I guess this group can still stand as an archive 
>> of all the history and work that has been done to get us here and if it 
>> offers that condensed email capability then maybe. I DO NOT want an email 
>> for every post being made thats is an absolute! 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> JW Are you on the specific instance of discourse? 
>>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 22 August 2021 at 20:55:10 UTC+10 JWHoneycutt wrote:
>>>
 Signed up for Discourse - can't find any hits when searching 
 "TiddlyWiki" - did I just lose access to the community?
 JWH

 On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 10:23:29 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Definitely moving over to the Discourse community. See you all there!
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 3:42:18 PM UTC-7 Scott Simmons 
> (Secret-HQ) wrote:
>
>> I've created a profile on Talk.TiddlyWiki.org and am delighted with 
>> the interface there.  I'll try to ask questions and create new threads 
>> there rather than here, though I guess I'll be drawn back to Google 
>> Groups 
>> is that's where the conversation flows.  (For my part, I'm hoping it 
>> moves 
>> to Talk.TW)
>>
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/u/secret-hq/
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: 3D file preview?

[Alex Davies]

With the lazy-load tiddler on node-js supporting larger collections of 
files it seems like a potentially very useful tool.

On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 7:40:38 PM UTC-3 joshua@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Including 3d files in a wiki is a really neat idea. Man, I wish I had more 
> time. Replaying so I can find the thread later. ;)
>
> Best,
>
> Joshua Fontany
>
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:58:15 AM UTC-7 Ste wrote:
>
>> There is also this as part of the plugin:
>>
>>
>> http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Frboue%2FThree.js%2FLib%2FLoaders%2FSTLLoader.js
>>
>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 21:15:56 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:
>>
>>> There there needs to be what, a display widget and and a parser?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 1:57:39 PM UTC-3 Ste wrote:
>>>
 There is this :
 http://rboue.tiddlyspot.com/#Three.js%2Fintroduction 

 Which has, I think, the ability to display STL files. 
 It's been on my to do list to look at and have a go but... 



 On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 16:30:00 UTC+1 Alex Davies wrote:

> I'd really like to be able to include STL files in my tiddlywiki, but 
> actually supporting a new file type is a bit beyond me. It seems like it 
> would be entirely doable using threejs, but a bit more challenging to 
> make 
> it happen "automatically" so that tiddlywiki doesn't try to show me 
> several 
> MB text files.
>
> Any thoughts on how that could be accomplished? Something to do with 
> mime type detection?
>


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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Ed,

Gosh, your situation sounds scary. I don't know if I could stick with it 
under your circumstances.

Yes, you will need to sign up at talk.tiddlywiki.org. But the good news is 
that you can use your existing gmail address, so you won't have to learn 
anything new there.

Once you sign up, you, or a helper, will need to navigate to the settings:

In the upper right hand corner click on your avatar, then on the little man 
tab, then on the cog, then from the list on the left click on "Emails". 
Under "Activity Summary" you can select to receive a summary weekly, 
monthly, or bi-annually.  I could put together some screen shots if that 
would help, though I feel that should be done with someone with an official 
capacity.

The funny thing is, to get these summaries, you have to NEVER visit the new 
forum! It only sends you summaries if you stay away!

The thing I don't know is if you can reply to a summary, just like to an 
email. Maybe an admin can comment. 

There is a mail list mode, but it sends you every single post, which I 
don't think is what you want. Most other systems have mail list modes with 
summaries, but that option isn't on the drop down.

 

On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:15:03 AM UTC-7 eddi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Unless Jeremy plans to do the same sorry but no thanks and even then 
> probably not. Other than it being a perhaps more feature rich, and newer 
> platform is there really a burning need to make this switch now? I know its 
> been debated here for a long time and have read the arguments both for and 
> against but this sounds as though it is being forced upon us regardless of 
> Jeremys reluctance to do so for some reason. Maybe google has announced it 
> is killing off groups, Jeremy has decided it is for the best, or something 
> else I am unaware of? (very possible I suffer from brain damage and am no 
> longer really in the know anymore, but do rely on getting these emails to 
> try and stay up on developments with TiddlyWiki and the plugin work being 
> done). I can still use TiddlyWiki to great advantage but no longer have the 
> ability to write plugins or do many things I used to do before. Anything 
> new is pretty much impossible for me to learn. Will discourse offer these 
> email updates like the one I am responding to here and will those of us who 
> choose not to join discourse (my mind is unable to learn new things) be 
> registered to receive those if this is done or will I need to register my 
> email address in their site in order to keep these condensed emails coming 
> to me? I also feel there is a wealth of historical information in this 
> group that would be a shame if not transferred over (perhaps it has?) 
> Anyway, I hope replying to "all" is the proper way to ask. If not I do 
> apologize. Also, I am not being critical of this change just explaining my 
> inability to do this and feel it is pointless unless Jeremy wants to make 
> this change as well. If so I guess this group can still stand as an archive 
> of all the history and work that has been done to get us here and if it 
> offers that condensed email capability then maybe. I DO NOT want an email 
> for every post being made thats is an absolute! 
>
> Thanks, 
> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> JW Are you on the specific instance of discourse? 
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Sunday, 22 August 2021 at 20:55:10 UTC+10 JWHoneycutt wrote:
>>
>>> Signed up for Discourse - can't find any hits when searching 
>>> "TiddlyWiki" - did I just lose access to the community?
>>> JWH
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 10:23:29 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Definitely moving over to the Discourse community. See you all there!

 Best,
 Joshua Fontany
 On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 3:42:18 PM UTC-7 Scott Simmons 
 (Secret-HQ) wrote:

> I've created a profile on Talk.TiddlyWiki.org and am delighted with 
> the interface there.  I'll try to ask questions and create new threads 
> there rather than here, though I guess I'll be drawn back to Google 
> Groups 
> is that's where the conversation flows.  (For my part, I'm hoping it 
> moves 
> to Talk.TW)
>
> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/u/secret-hq/
>


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[tw5] Re: How can I prevent TW from trimming leading space in field transclusion?

[Misterel85]

Hi Tones,

Thank you very much for your solution. Being away from my computer for the 
last few days, I could try it only this afternoon. I managed to twist it to 
my needs and it seems to work fine, which is great!

I understand the way you implemented your solution, but I have three 
specific questions about the code you used, in order to grasp the details 
that still elude me.

1) You used `variable=nul` 5 times in your code, for at least two 
(seemingly) different list filters. Why did you use the same variable name? 
And why did you choose that name? How useful is it to declare a variable in 
a list filter? Could we make do without it?


2) You also chose to use `$wikify` at some point. Why did you choose that?
In my adaptation of your code, I had to replace:

```
<$wikify name=details-start text="""{{{ [all[current]get[details]split[ 
]first[]] }}}""">
```

with:

```
<$set name=details-start value={{{ [all[current]get[details]split[ 
]first[]] }}}>
```

because it wouldn't work properly otherwise. (Some closing tags such as 
`` would show as text.)


3) How does `+[limit[1]` work? What does the plus sign mean here? Wouldn't 
it be okay to just use `[all[current]has[fieldname]]`?


Thanks again, Tones.

-Stéphane

Le jeudi 19 août 2021 à 05:31:03 UTC+2, TW Tones a écrit :

> Stephanie
>
> It took a little time to wade through the combinations. I also found there 
> are possibly many ways to do this.
>
> The attached json has a view template that displays the detail or 
> references if they exist according to your specs, the view template itself 
> is for all other setting and the testn tiddlers demonstrate each of the 
> formats. 
>
> Here is the content of the viewtemplate
> \define reference-only() {{!!reference}}.
> \define page-reference() {{!!reference}}, {{!!details}}
> \define not-page-reference()
> <$list filter="[lowercase[]match]" 
> variable=nul> 
> {{!!reference}} — {{!!details}}
> 
> <$list filter="[lowercase[]!match]" 
> variable=nul> 
> {{!!reference}}. {{!!details}}
> 
> \end
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]has[details]] [all[current]has[reference]] 
> +[limit[1]]" variable=nul>
> <$wikify name=details-start text="""{{{ [all[current]get[details]split[ 
> ]first[]] }}}""">
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[details]]" variable=nul 
> emptyMessage=<> >
><$list filter="[match[p.]] [match[pp.]]" 
> emptyMessage=<>  variable=nul>
><>
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> Basically I define some alternative layouts with define, some with logic. 
> These transclude the reference and details fields so any wiki text therein 
> is rendered.
>
> Then from  
>
>- first we test if we have anything todo - reference and/or details 
>has content
>- Then we get and wikify a filtered transclusion to get the first word
>- Then if not details exist we use the  reference-only layout
>- else if we do have details we test if it contains a page-reference 
>and use that layout if so
>- else (emptyMessage) we use the  not-page-reference layout
>   - Every other case uses this.
>
> To handle the first character upper or lower case I am simply testing to 
> see if the first word matches all lower or not, it does the same job but 
> could be tricked. eg "tHis" would trip the capital test. This can be 
> refined, however I expect you would then edit it to correct it anyway.
>
> So the main mechanism I use is the list widget with filtered tests and 
> emptyMessage. As I asserted best put the formatting separate from the 
> content/data.
>
> Regards
> Tones
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 09:48:02 UTC+10 joshua@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Stéphane,
>>
>> Some-one on GitHub in the bug report (link) mentioned that you can "view" 
>> the raw text of a field with the View Widget.
>>
>> So, where as {{foo!!bar}} is a shortcut for 
>>
>> <$tiddler tiddler="foo"><$translcude tiddler=<> 
>> field="bar"/>
>>
>> You can create a macro that uses the View Widget like so:
>>
>> ```
>> \define viewField(tiddler,field)
>> <$tiddler tiddler=$tiddler$><$view field=$field format="text"/>
>> \end
>>
>> <> <>
>> ```
>> You could even use the View Widget directly if the defaults would do fine:
>>
>> ```
>> <$tiddler  tiddler="tiddler a">
>> <$view  field="foo"/><$view field="bar"/>
>> 
>> ```
>>
>> If you had wikitext in the field that needed to be proccessed, you could 
>> use a different "format" value: https://tiddlywiki.com/#ViewWidget
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 2:20:51 PM UTC-7 Misterel85 wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your very interesting and useful examples, Tones. I didn't 
>>> know about `sentencecase`! I'll keep that post as a reference. 
>>> And thank you very much for proposing your help.
>>>
>>> Sorry for not replying sooner. I've spent the last two days thinking 
>>> those field connexion rules over for my project and I can say they are not 
>>> that obvious to define. Anyway, here is something that would correspond to 
>>> my needs, but it needs 'conditional 

Re: [tw5] Re: Random html tags appear in my wiki

[David Shaw]

I get the same sort of thing with both Tiddloid and Tiddloid Lite. I
suspect it is a problem with Tiddloid as I can get the code to disappear if
I open it in either Tiddloid version, save and close it then open it in the
other Tiddloid and save and close it, but this is only a very temporary
solution I'm afraid; the code comes back pretty quickly.

David Shaw

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021, 13:52 PMario,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Which version of TW do you use?
> Can you link to the Android app you are using?
>
> Did you install any new plugins, before you copied it over to the phone?
>
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: Random html tags appear in my wiki

[PMario]

Hi,

Which version of TW do you use?
Can you link to the Android app you are using?

Did you install any new plugins, before you copied it over to the phone?

-mario

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