[tw5] Re: BASIC Dialects Matrix TiddlyWiki

[Charlie Veniot]

And your TiddlyWiki is quite a beautiful piece of work.


Thanks for sharing!  Very much worth sharing that and your progress in a 
dedicated thread to make sure other folk see it.  The thing has a serious 
wow factor going on.

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 6:24:31 PM UTC-3 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Regarding the modal for tiddler titles in the tables, Thank you Charlie 
> for the help.  That was awesome.  
>
> Regarding the fish button, I will have to modify the template to keep it 
> always on.
>
> Continue your good work. Will be keeping an eye on your progress. 
>
> Thanks,
> Arun
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 2:05:53 AM UTC+5:30 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Okay, I just looked at your TiddlyWiki, and it has a lot of things going 
>> on that aren't compatible with my hide/show fishy link based on sidebar 
>> visibility.
>>
>> You'll have to adapt my fishy-link-related workings to fit the plugins 
>> you've installed.
>>
>> Once you have that working, you have to modify the following tiddler the 
>> way I did, except, with the fishy link template.
>>
>> What I've done shows using the tKwm template, which will open the budget 
>> tiddler in a modal.
>>
>> 3 screenshots:
>>
>> *Tiddler that needs changing, before my change:*
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.23.07 PM.png]
>>
>> *Tiddler that needs changing, with my change:*
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.26.30 PM.png]
>>
>> *The result:*
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.27.21 PM.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 4:52:10 PM UTC-3 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Charlie,
>>>
>>> I started testing out your modal approach in the budget wiki 
>>>  I am making.
>>>
>>> I have few doubts.
>>> 1. The fish button of the tKwm and fLx template is not seen in my wiki. 
>>> Did I miss adding any related tiddlers?
>>> 2. I have added few buttons to open your modal windows in my budget 
>>> table. Now I am trying to add the fields into the second of those modal 
>>> windows - don't know whether it will work out.
>>> 3. I want to use the tKwm template for the tiddler titles in my budget 
>>> table.  This tiddler 
>>> 
>>>  is 
>>> responsible for the tiddler titles in budget table in think. Can you 
>>> suggest how to modify the content of that tiddler so that the tKwm template 
>>> is applied to the tiddler titles and when the tiddler title is clicked, it 
>>> opens in a modal window.
>>>
>>> Thanks 
>>> Arun
>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:48:27 AM UTC+5:30 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Just a little update about some ongoing redesign/refine work.

 Amount of checkboxes and length/volume of label text was too much.  So 
 I'm organizing the large number of check boxes into check box groupings.  
 That takes more real estate, but I find the individual groups so much 
 easier to visually/cognitively process.

 Two screenshots.

 *Before start of redesign:*

 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.43.10 AM.png]
 *After some redesign:*

 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.40.53 AM.png]
 On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:56:32 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>
> As per this other post 
> , I added a 
> couple of tiddlers with simple word clouds.
>
> With "structured content" in mind, I've added two fields to the BASIC 
> Dialects Form: "Primary Website" and "Caution" fields.
>
> Primary website is just a plain field meant to paste in a URL.  
> Nothing particularly special there.
>
> "Caution" field I added as a heads-up to viewers looking at a 
> particular BASIC dialect.  If I'm going to find something concerning 
> about 
> any product, I want a place where I can enter that info, and I also want 
> it 
> to be "grab-by-the-jugular" noticeable when there's something entered 
> there.  AND, I'm planning the ground work for editing many long-text 
> fields 
> with just the one edit text widget.  To save space, but also to avoid 
> duplicating the same GUI elements for every tiddler field.
>
> Something like that.
>
> Four screenshots:
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.35.26 PM.png]
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.36.08 PM.png]
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.05 PM.png]
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.23 PM.png]
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>
>> "Export Tiddler" button setup for both forms.  It was a little bit 
>> tricky to setup because the forms ("BASIC Dialect Form", and "BASIC 
>> Category Form") are displayed as modals, and 

[tw5] Re: BASIC Dialects Matrix TiddlyWiki

[arun babu]

Regarding the modal for tiddler titles in the tables, Thank you Charlie for 
the help.  That was awesome.  

Regarding the fish button, I will have to modify the template to keep it 
always on.

Continue your good work. Will be keeping an eye on your progress. 

Thanks,
Arun

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 2:05:53 AM UTC+5:30 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Okay, I just looked at your TiddlyWiki, and it has a lot of things going 
> on that aren't compatible with my hide/show fishy link based on sidebar 
> visibility.
>
> You'll have to adapt my fishy-link-related workings to fit the plugins 
> you've installed.
>
> Once you have that working, you have to modify the following tiddler the 
> way I did, except, with the fishy link template.
>
> What I've done shows using the tKwm template, which will open the budget 
> tiddler in a modal.
>
> 3 screenshots:
>
> *Tiddler that needs changing, before my change:*
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.23.07 PM.png]
>
> *Tiddler that needs changing, with my change:*
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.26.30 PM.png]
>
> *The result:*
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.27.21 PM.png]
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 4:52:10 PM UTC-3 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Charlie,
>>
>> I started testing out your modal approach in the budget wiki 
>>  I am making.
>>
>> I have few doubts.
>> 1. The fish button of the tKwm and fLx template is not seen in my wiki. 
>> Did I miss adding any related tiddlers?
>> 2. I have added few buttons to open your modal windows in my budget 
>> table. Now I am trying to add the fields into the second of those modal 
>> windows - don't know whether it will work out.
>> 3. I want to use the tKwm template for the tiddler titles in my budget 
>> table.  This tiddler 
>> 
>>  is 
>> responsible for the tiddler titles in budget table in think. Can you 
>> suggest how to modify the content of that tiddler so that the tKwm template 
>> is applied to the tiddler titles and when the tiddler title is clicked, it 
>> opens in a modal window.
>>
>> Thanks 
>> Arun
>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:48:27 AM UTC+5:30 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Just a little update about some ongoing redesign/refine work.
>>>
>>> Amount of checkboxes and length/volume of label text was too much.  So 
>>> I'm organizing the large number of check boxes into check box groupings.  
>>> That takes more real estate, but I find the individual groups so much 
>>> easier to visually/cognitively process.
>>>
>>> Two screenshots.
>>>
>>> *Before start of redesign:*
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.43.10 AM.png]
>>> *After some redesign:*
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.40.53 AM.png]
>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:56:32 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
 https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html

 As per this other post 
 , I added a 
 couple of tiddlers with simple word clouds.

 With "structured content" in mind, I've added two fields to the BASIC 
 Dialects Form: "Primary Website" and "Caution" fields.

 Primary website is just a plain field meant to paste in a URL.  Nothing 
 particularly special there.

 "Caution" field I added as a heads-up to viewers looking at a 
 particular BASIC dialect.  If I'm going to find something concerning about 
 any product, I want a place where I can enter that info, and I also want 
 it 
 to be "grab-by-the-jugular" noticeable when there's something entered 
 there.  AND, I'm planning the ground work for editing many long-text 
 fields 
 with just the one edit text widget.  To save space, but also to avoid 
 duplicating the same GUI elements for every tiddler field.

 Something like that.

 Four screenshots:

 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.35.26 PM.png]

 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.36.08 PM.png]
 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.05 PM.png]
 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.23 PM.png]




 On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>
> "Export Tiddler" button setup for both forms.  It was a little bit 
> tricky to setup because the forms ("BASIC Dialect Form", and "BASIC 
> Category Form") are displayed as modals, and the export button wasn't 
> showing the image.
>
> Both forms required a copy and paste of the following macro for the 
> export button image to show in the modals:
>
> ```
> \define tv-config-toolbar-icons() yes
> ```
>
> I need that export tiddler button so that content contributors have a 
> user-friendly quick'n easy way to export new content to the TiddlyWiki 
> I'm 
> 

[tw5] Re: BASIC Dialects Matrix TiddlyWiki

[Charlie Veniot]

First, the little fish right away.

If you hide the sidebar, then show it, you should see the fishy links.

If that's working fine, then you are probably missing the "Startup Actions" 
tiddler.  Copy that over, save your TiddlyWiki, then close it and open it 
again.

Do take a look at that Startup Actions tiddler.  Adjust that tiddler 
accordingly if you want the sidebar to show on startup.

The fishy links are setup in my TiddlyWiki as links that only appear in 
"Author Mode", but disappear in "Reader Mode".  To keep things simple, 
hiding the sidebar is "Reader Mode", and showing the sidebar is "Author 
Mode".

If you want the fishy links to always be visible, then adjust the templates 
accordingly.

Now, I'm checking out your TiddlyWiki so that I can help you out with #3.



On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 4:52:10 PM UTC-3 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
>
> I started testing out your modal approach in the budget wiki 
>  I am making.
>
> I have few doubts.
> 1. The fish button of the tKwm and fLx template is not seen in my wiki. 
> Did I miss adding any related tiddlers?
> 2. I have added few buttons to open your modal windows in my budget table. 
> Now I am trying to add the fields into the second of those modal windows - 
> don't know whether it will work out.
> 3. I want to use the tKwm template for the tiddler titles in my budget 
> table.  This tiddler 
> 
>  is 
> responsible for the tiddler titles in budget table in think. Can you 
> suggest how to modify the content of that tiddler so that the tKwm template 
> is applied to the tiddler titles and when the tiddler title is clicked, it 
> opens in a modal window.
>
> Thanks 
> Arun
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:48:27 AM UTC+5:30 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just a little update about some ongoing redesign/refine work.
>>
>> Amount of checkboxes and length/volume of label text was too much.  So 
>> I'm organizing the large number of check boxes into check box groupings.  
>> That takes more real estate, but I find the individual groups so much 
>> easier to visually/cognitively process.
>>
>> Two screenshots.
>>
>> *Before start of redesign:*
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.43.10 AM.png]
>> *After some redesign:*
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.40.53 AM.png]
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:56:32 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>
>>> As per this other post 
>>> , I added a 
>>> couple of tiddlers with simple word clouds.
>>>
>>> With "structured content" in mind, I've added two fields to the BASIC 
>>> Dialects Form: "Primary Website" and "Caution" fields.
>>>
>>> Primary website is just a plain field meant to paste in a URL.  Nothing 
>>> particularly special there.
>>>
>>> "Caution" field I added as a heads-up to viewers looking at a particular 
>>> BASIC dialect.  If I'm going to find something concerning about any 
>>> product, I want a place where I can enter that info, and I also want it to 
>>> be "grab-by-the-jugular" noticeable when there's something entered there.  
>>> AND, I'm planning the ground work for editing many long-text fields with 
>>> just the one edit text widget.  To save space, but also to avoid 
>>> duplicating the same GUI elements for every tiddler field.
>>>
>>> Something like that.
>>>
>>> Four screenshots:
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.35.26 PM.png]
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.36.08 PM.png]
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.05 PM.png]
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.23 PM.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
 https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html

 "Export Tiddler" button setup for both forms.  It was a little bit 
 tricky to setup because the forms ("BASIC Dialect Form", and "BASIC 
 Category Form") are displayed as modals, and the export button wasn't 
 showing the image.

 Both forms required a copy and paste of the following macro for the 
 export button image to show in the modals:

 ```
 \define tv-config-toolbar-icons() yes
 ```

 I need that export tiddler button so that content contributors have a 
 user-friendly quick'n easy way to export new content to the TiddlyWiki I'm 
 administering.

 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.21 PM.png]

 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.54 PM.png]

 On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:49:35 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> Oops, premature post.  Second screenshot:
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 8.18.05 PM.png]
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:48:21 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html

[tw5] Re: BASIC Dialects Matrix TiddlyWiki

[arun babu]

Hi Charlie,

I started testing out your modal approach in the budget wiki 
 I am making.

I have few doubts.
1. The fish button of the tKwm and fLx template is not seen in my wiki. Did 
I miss adding any related tiddlers?
2. I have added few buttons to open your modal windows in my budget table. 
Now I am trying to add the fields into the second of those modal windows - 
don't know whether it will work out.
3. I want to use the tKwm template for the tiddler titles in my budget 
table.  This tiddler 

 is 
responsible for the tiddler titles in budget table in think. Can you 
suggest how to modify the content of that tiddler so that the tKwm template 
is applied to the tiddler titles and when the tiddler title is clicked, it 
opens in a modal window.

Thanks 
Arun
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:48:27 AM UTC+5:30 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just a little update about some ongoing redesign/refine work.
>
> Amount of checkboxes and length/volume of label text was too much.  So I'm 
> organizing the large number of check boxes into check box groupings.  That 
> takes more real estate, but I find the individual groups so much easier to 
> visually/cognitively process.
>
> Two screenshots.
>
> *Before start of redesign:*
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.43.10 AM.png]
> *After some redesign:*
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.40.53 AM.png]
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:56:32 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>
>> As per this other post 
>> , I added a couple 
>> of tiddlers with simple word clouds.
>>
>> With "structured content" in mind, I've added two fields to the BASIC 
>> Dialects Form: "Primary Website" and "Caution" fields.
>>
>> Primary website is just a plain field meant to paste in a URL.  Nothing 
>> particularly special there.
>>
>> "Caution" field I added as a heads-up to viewers looking at a particular 
>> BASIC dialect.  If I'm going to find something concerning about any 
>> product, I want a place where I can enter that info, and I also want it to 
>> be "grab-by-the-jugular" noticeable when there's something entered there.  
>> AND, I'm planning the ground work for editing many long-text fields with 
>> just the one edit text widget.  To save space, but also to avoid 
>> duplicating the same GUI elements for every tiddler field.
>>
>> Something like that.
>>
>> Four screenshots:
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.35.26 PM.png]
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.36.08 PM.png]
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.05 PM.png]
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.23 PM.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>
>>> "Export Tiddler" button setup for both forms.  It was a little bit 
>>> tricky to setup because the forms ("BASIC Dialect Form", and "BASIC 
>>> Category Form") are displayed as modals, and the export button wasn't 
>>> showing the image.
>>>
>>> Both forms required a copy and paste of the following macro for the 
>>> export button image to show in the modals:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> \define tv-config-toolbar-icons() yes
>>> ```
>>>
>>> I need that export tiddler button so that content contributors have a 
>>> user-friendly quick'n easy way to export new content to the TiddlyWiki I'm 
>>> administering.
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.21 PM.png]
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.54 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:49:35 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
 Oops, premature post.  Second screenshot:

 [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 8.18.05 PM.png]

 On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:48:21 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>
> I had "distraction-free viewing" of the matrix in mind.  Being able to 
> view the matrix in a new window is also better for printing.
>
> Seeing as I want some buttons for that and, eventually, buttons for 
> other things, I need a place to put them.  That top-left cell (first row, 
> first column), seems like a good spot.
>
> Screenshots:
>
> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 8.17.36 PM.png]
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:40:28 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>
>> Okay, "Toggle All" button added to Categories section (the only 
>> section right now, more TBD) of "Choose Attributes to Compare". 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:05:52 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>
>>> Added "Toggle All" buttons to "Choose BASIC Dialects" and to 

Re: [tw5] Re: WYSIWYG editor for TW5

[Lin Onetwo]

For anyone who search to here via google, please see 
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/demo-of-a-new-wysiwyg-editor-slate-write-unstable-alpha-stage/2788
 
in the tw talk forum, I want to make a wysiwyg editor that can save to 
wikitext.

在2021年1月16日星期六 UTC+8 17:17:34 写道：

> It sounds like you're running into TW5's CSRF protection. You can either 
> ensure the specified header is present, or disable CSRF protection:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20Parameter%3A%20csrf-disable
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 16 Jan 2021, at 09:15, BJ  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> I doubt if this is a bug. I have no idea if tiddlywiki supports anything 
> other than saving tiddlers... You could open an issue on github with the 
> tiddlywiki repository to try and get some expert advise. 
>
> You could run your own server to support ckeditor upload requests.
>
>
> On Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 7:41:45 AM UTC+1 bluespire wrote:
>
>> Is there any way we could get Jeremy to weigh in on this? I'm not sure if 
>> this is a bug or a CKEditor configuration problem.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 4:47:29 AM UTC-6 BJ wrote:
>>
>>> That message is produced by the tw server here:
>>>
>>> if(!this.csrfDisable && authorizationType === "writers" && 
>>> request.headers["x-requested-with"] !== "TiddlyWiki") {
>>> response.writeHead(403,"'X-Requested-With' header required to 
>>> login to '" + this.servername + "'");
>>> response.end();
>>> return;
>>> }
>>>
>>> I do not know if the tiddlywiki server will support upload
>>> On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 8:14:32 AM UTC+1 bluespire wrote:
>>>
 OK. You pointed me in the right direction. I defined the necessary 
 ckeditor variables in  $:/plugins/bj/visualeditor/config.json  to make 
 uploading work. Now I have the upload tab. However, I still have a 
 blocker. 
 When I try to upload an image through ckeditor I get the following error 
 in 
 the console: *Status Code: 403 'X-Requested-With' header required to 
 login to 'My ~TiddlyWiki'*. I feel like I'm almost there . . . My wiki 
 is just a basic nodejs instance IP:8080. All my ckeditor files and upload 
 folder are in the ./files folder. I have no authentication enabled. I'm 
 not 
 quite sure why I'm getting a 403. Googling it doesn't really give me a 
 solution, so I'm thinking it's a TW-specific issue.

  

 On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 4:39:34 AM UTC-6 BJ wrote:

> I don't have a problem with pasting images with  my setup - I use 
> 4.3.2 of the ckeditor lib. However I do not past images dirrectly into 
> ckeditor as this creates large tiddlers.
>
> As tiddlywiki is a dynamic webpage, the plugin for ckeditor uses 
> javascript to call the ckeditor lib thru its api - it does not use the 
> script tags. I have included the abilty to add config information thru 
> the 
> tiddler 
> $:/plugins/bj/visualeditor/config.json 
>
> cheer
>
> BJ
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 10:26:05 PM UTC+1 bluespire wrote:
>
>> I don't want to use the native drag/drop/paste for images that TW5 
>> uses. It's WAY to unwieldy for quickly taking notes and screenshots. I 
>> have 
>> to take these during meetings and presentations. CKeditor supports 
>> pasting 
>> images directly into the editor, but it requires a little bit 
>> configuration. If you can help me understand where in the code the 
>> editor 
>> is actually instantiated (the  tags that call the editor), then 
>> I 
>> might be able to figure it out. I tried searching for it, but couldn't 
>> find 
>> it.
>>
>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 9:36:26 AM UTC-6 BJ wrote:
>>
>>> I am not sure what uloading means here - but if you select the 
>>> tiddler type to be 'text/x-htmlp' then you can use the tiddlywiki image 
>>> syntax - [img['path to image']] within the ckeditor.
>>> On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 4:06:08 AM UTC+1 bluespire wrote:
>>>
 I've got it to work, for the most part. Now I'm struggling to 
 figure out why I can't get file pasting and uploading to work (for 
 screenshots). No matter what I try, I keep getting a console error 
 about 
 the upload variable not being set. Now, most of the examples that I 
 see for 
 setting this up use a JS script to instantiate ckeditor in the body of 
 an 
 HTML page. I'm not sure what the analog to that is in TW5. Anyone have 
 any 
 ideas on this?

 On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 12:23:54 PM UTC-6 bluespire wrote:

> @Mark @ BJ
> *Mark, that worked brilliantly*. FYI, it was working using the 
> cloudflare link, but I wanted to customize the package, and that can 
>