Re: [tw] Creating tiddlers outside of TW5

[Paul Hemans]

Thanks Tony it does look a little deep from my perspective. What I need to
do is hopely fairly simple. Maybe a little later ...

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:25 AM, TonyM <anthony.mus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Checkout the discussion https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/
> tiddlywiki/multiuser%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/BJ5I2CqX_Ho/SIQ0zs7bBgAJ
> which is a development process to build features in this area, Warning it
> is a bit of a rabbit hole.
>
> Needs NodeJS server.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 01:56:31 UTC+11, Paul Hemans wrote:
>>
>> That's ok about the docs, I understand. I think the suggestion about
>> using devtools is a really good one that should be enough to get me going.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul
>>>
>>> Hi Jeremy, where can I find the docs on the HTTP API?
>>>
>>>
>>> Embarrassingly, there’s no decent documentation. The API is a subset of
>>> the TiddlyWeb API, which is documented here:
>>>
>>> https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/HTTP%20API
>>>
>>> Sadly, the best way to see the routes that are actually implemented is
>>> to look at the source:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/mo
>>> dules/commands/server.js#L158-L279
>>>
>>> Or, you can use browser developer tools to observe network traffic as
>>> you interactively create and delete tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Paul Hemans <paul_...@laberg.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks I'll check it out.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy...@gmail.com> w
>>>> rote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> Very much a noob, but this is a smashing project.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am running tiddlywiki with the server option. I would like to create
>>>>> tiddlers through an external process and then display them in the browser.
>>>>> That has been successful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I need the page to refresh in the browser to pick up the new
>>>>> tiddlers. Is there a way to do this where TW could monitor the directory
>>>>> for changes? Otherwise I could force it to restart on every change but 
>>>>> that
>>>>> seems a little draconian and could cause problems for anyone interacting
>>>>> with the UI.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like you are creating your tiddlers by writing directly to
>>>>> the file system. As you've discovered, TiddlyWiki won't pick up the 
>>>>> changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> A better approach is to use the HTTP API to write your tiddlers (eg
>>>>> with curl or wget). Then they will be automatically saved to the filing
>>>>> system and propagated to all connected browsers.
>>>>>
>>>>> By default, the browsers only fetch updates from the server every 60
>>>>> seconds. Users can fetch updates immediately in the "Server” tab of 
>>>>> control
>>>>> panel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
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Re: [tw] Creating tiddlers outside of TW5

[Paul Hemans]

That's ok about the docs, I understand. I think the suggestion about using
devtools is a really good one that should be enough to get me going.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Paul
>
> Hi Jeremy, where can I find the docs on the HTTP API?
>
>
> Embarrassingly, there’s no decent documentation. The API is a subset of
> the TiddlyWeb API, which is documented here:
>
> https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/HTTP%20API
>
> Sadly, the best way to see the routes that are actually implemented is to
> look at the source:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/
> modules/commands/server.js#L158-L279
>
> Or, you can use browser developer tools to observe network traffic as you
> interactively create and delete tiddlers.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Paul Hemans <paul_hem...@laberg.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks I'll check it out.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul
>>>
>>> Very much a noob, but this is a smashing project.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> I am running tiddlywiki with the server option. I would like to create
>>> tiddlers through an external process and then display them in the browser.
>>> That has been successful.
>>>
>>> Now I need the page to refresh in the browser to pick up the new
>>> tiddlers. Is there a way to do this where TW could monitor the directory
>>> for changes? Otherwise I could force it to restart on every change but that
>>> seems a little draconian and could cause problems for anyone interacting
>>> with the UI.
>>>
>>>
>>> It sounds like you are creating your tiddlers by writing directly to the
>>> file system. As you've discovered, TiddlyWiki won't pick up the changes.
>>>
>>> A better approach is to use the HTTP API to write your tiddlers (eg with
>>> curl or wget). Then they will be automatically saved to the filing system
>>> and propagated to all connected browsers.
>>>
>>> By default, the browsers only fetch updates from the server every 60
>>> seconds. Users can fetch updates immediately in the "Server” tab of control
>>> panel.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [tw] Creating tiddlers outside of TW5

[Paul Hemans]

Hi Jeremy, where can I find the docs on the HTTP API?

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Paul Hemans <paul_hem...@laberg.com.au>
wrote:

> Thanks I'll check it out.
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul
>>
>> Very much a noob, but this is a smashing project.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> I am running tiddlywiki with the server option. I would like to create
>> tiddlers through an external process and then display them in the browser.
>> That has been successful.
>>
>> Now I need the page to refresh in the browser to pick up the new
>> tiddlers. Is there a way to do this where TW could monitor the directory
>> for changes? Otherwise I could force it to restart on every change but that
>> seems a little draconian and could cause problems for anyone interacting
>> with the UI.
>>
>>
>> It sounds like you are creating your tiddlers by writing directly to the
>> file system. As you've discovered, TiddlyWiki won't pick up the changes.
>>
>> A better approach is to use the HTTP API to write your tiddlers (eg with
>> curl or wget). Then they will be automatically saved to the filing system
>> and propagated to all connected browsers.
>>
>> By default, the browsers only fetch updates from the server every 60
>> seconds. Users can fetch updates immediately in the "Server” tab of control
>> panel.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [tw] Creating tiddlers outside of TW5

[Paul Hemans]

Thanks I'll check it out.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Paul
>
> Very much a noob, but this is a smashing project.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> I am running tiddlywiki with the server option. I would like to create
> tiddlers through an external process and then display them in the browser.
> That has been successful.
>
> Now I need the page to refresh in the browser to pick up the new tiddlers.
> Is there a way to do this where TW could monitor the directory for changes?
> Otherwise I could force it to restart on every change but that seems a
> little draconian and could cause problems for anyone interacting with the
> UI.
>
>
> It sounds like you are creating your tiddlers by writing directly to the
> file system. As you've discovered, TiddlyWiki won't pick up the changes.
>
> A better approach is to use the HTTP API to write your tiddlers (eg with
> curl or wget). Then they will be automatically saved to the filing system
> and propagated to all connected browsers.
>
> By default, the browsers only fetch updates from the server every 60
> seconds. Users can fetch updates immediately in the "Server” tab of control
> panel.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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[tw] Re: Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts?

[Paul Hemans]

Yes I'd like that. We head down the south coast now and then for holidays 
and pass through Braidwood on the way. Good part of the world.
I have added you to a Google circle so you should be able to let me know 
when you are passing by.

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 8:03:17 PM UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> I often travel through the highlands on my way to my shack near braidwood. 
> perhaps we can meetup for a coffee.
>
> Tony
>
>

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[tw] Creating tiddlers outside of TW5

[Paul Hemans]

Very much a noob, but this is a smashing project.

I am running tiddlywiki with the server option. I would like to create 
tiddlers through an external process and then display them in the browser. 
That has been successful. 

Now I need the page to refresh in the browser to pick up the new tiddlers. 
Is there a way to do this where TW could monitor the directory for changes? 
Otherwise I could force it to restart on every change but that seems a 
little draconian and could cause problems for anyone interacting with the 
UI.

Thanks.

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[tw] Re: Australian or Sydney based tiddlywiki enthusiasts?

[Paul Hemans]

I am in the Southern Highlands. I am also finding a renewed flame with TW5. 

Unfortunately I don't make it into Sydney often.

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[tw] How to integrate into a website

[Paul Hemans]

Hi, I have a website that is developed out using node.js. I would like to 
add the wiki in a subdirectory, say http://myweb.com/blog, as a read-only 
sub to the main site.

I am currently editing the TW via the node.js tiddlywiki module run 
locally. I just want to be able to copy the directory over to the public 
server and have it available online.

As the public site is already running node is there anyway I can simply 
detect the "/blog" route using express and send the request to a TW node 
module to handle the display? I would like it to be under the same domain 
for simplicity and SEO purposes.

Thanks.

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