[tw] Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?
Thanks Mario! Making progress now: http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/517/neuiemaltered.png There are still some issues: **1** SidebarButtons contain the icons. height width settings. eg: image tfgCloseAll.svg height:20px width:20px I did this, using height:3em width:3em so the buttons scale with the page. It looks good at first, but when a button is clicked it seems that the size modifier is lost: you can see this for the 'glasses' (what is this icon for?) and 'upload' icons in the screenshot. How to rectify this? I also did not understand whether it's possible to specify tooltip text in the image macro. It is important to have icon tooltips as the people I will invite to the space are new to TW. **2** There is no easy way to remove the second one. I like it that way. Edit ToolbarCommands tiddler to change it. Too complicated for me to understand at this point... It's not very important. However, something related: can I add a button in the toolbar to open/close the comments area, rather than have it show permanently for every tiddler? I suppose this would involve a change in NeUIemTheme too? **3** - Where can I change the colour of the comments title bar (ochre-yellow right now, see screenshot)? - Following http://tiddlyguv.org/CommentsPlugin.html#CommentsPluginInfo I set textRows:2 to make the comment box smaller. But textCols:some number doesn't do anything. Any idea why? **4** Regarding opening the blog: - Will the people I'll invite each have to create a TiddlySpace? Is it not possible for them to have accounts (maybe using OpenID) without creating a space? - I have checked 'generate RSS feed' in Advanced Options. What is the address of the feed? many thanks for your efforts! ~P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?
(... continued from previous post) **2** have you tried my space neui-em A very neat design - nice clean icons, pane-hiding arrows. It fits the small screen better than the default: http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8552/neuiem.png Some problems with it however: - The font is still too big, especially the titles (in FF I'd zoom out once to get the main text right, but 3 times for the titles). How can I change this for my own space? Also the icon layout and sizes, or having text like modified by ..., are not really optimized for a small screen. - As you can see on the 800px screen the tiddler list (right pane) has very little room, especially when the 'type selection box' (don't know what it's called) is hovered open; It would help if collapsing the left pane (MainMenu pane) would shift the central pane to the left to double the space for the right pane... - The big icons on the right are nice but don't have tooltips: confusing. - When the 'additional commands' are shown on a tiddler, you get 2 'Close this tiddler' icons, superfluously. **3** For example, you can use comments by including the comments space http://comments.tiddlyspace.com/ and editing your ViewTemplate to include this line div class='comments-wrapper' macro='Comments'/div where you want the comments to be displayed. This works beautifully with the default theme [Note: the C in macro='Comments' should be uncapitalised] :) ... but not at all with neui-em? :( **4** I think this use case can be achieved by using multiple spaces. The leader can have there own space where they keep their own notes. The team can use a different space for their project keeping the work/notes private (i.e. visible only to members) I suppose... and each member, not just the leader, could have their own notes space. But whenever someone clicks through from their notes space to a tiddler in the team space, it will open a new browser tab and load the whole team space again... not very tight and perhaps prohibitive for large team spaces? **5** Finally, in my experimentation I've ended up with a couple of spaces that are so messed up I give up on them -- but including 'deleted' hasn't brought them down. Could one of you delete them manually for me? Incidentally, what happens to these names: are they re-usable again? It's natural to choose the best-fitting name for a space, but if it gets messed up and must be killed, is the name lost too? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?
How to import a TW theme to TiddlySpace? I've tried entering e.g. http://tiddlythemes.com/empties/Rin.html into ImportTiddlers yet it results in an Unable to import from this location due to cross-domain restrictions. error. You cannot import directly from another site - instead, you need to download the document and then import it as explained here: http://faq.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BHow%20do%20I%20import%20my%20TiddlyWiki%20into%20TiddlySpace%3F%5D%5D Thanks for reporting this issue, we'll try to make the process more obvious. -- F. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?
Thanks for your replies folks. Allow me to throw lots of questions and remarks at you, for my own benefit and hopefully for TS too. Please forgive my going off-topic a bit. have you tried copy paste the 5 tiddlers listed Tags:RinTheme to a tiddlyspace? Just tried that: it seems to be working fine. (Was a bit confusing because I lost a 'new tiddler' option on screen after I copy/pasted the Rin PageTemplate; but I found 'new tiddler' on the backstage.) have a look at:http://themes.tiddlyspace.com/ which contains ready to use TiddlySpace themes. That works, too. The classictheme in particular, as it has better font sizes. Let me mention that the default TS theme (while otherwise nice) doesn't look good on a small screen like the 800x480 I'm using (in Firefox 3.6, even fullscreen). With default zoom the titles look way too big: http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4369/tsfaqscreenshot.png When zooming out the regular text becomes too small; I'd say the titles are too big /relatively/: http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1104/tsfaqscreenshot2.png Not sure if it's possible to set font sizes so they look good on any reasonable resolution... but surely there's % and ems and so on (newbie here)? I think an old TW theme will not work very well, without access to the new TiddlySpace requirements. eg: switching between public/ private, following, I just tried importing quickstart_tiddlyblog.html (downloaded from TiddlyTools) to a testspace. That's more than just a 'theme', I guess. It seems to mostly work, but not quite: http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/756/messy1screenshot.png http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4294/messy2screenshot.png Even without the apparent glitches, like you say I reckon TS's 'social' features wouldn't quite mesh with the social options (like commenting on a tiddler) available through this import... :( Two more sets of comments/questions. [1] Still regarding layout etc. If I include, say, 'classictheme' (or copy/paste 'Rin'), the result has no search field, regrettably. How do I go about adding one? Is this 'includable', TS-style, and how would I know other than asking here? Or should I 'import' it from a (which?) more general TW file? What about adding a 'new journal entry' button, a calendar, and the option to comment on tiddlers? I see e.g. CalendarPlugin listed as 'currently loaded' under backstage:plugins, but that doesn't make a calendar show up...? [2] I would love to use TW/TS for a multi-user project blog (with the above elements). I'm unclear whether this is currently possible. Or is another type of TW solution more viable right now? Note I don't have my own server space. Also here's a thought. Would it not make sense to make a distinction between the space owner and other space members? It'd be up to the owner to grant other members owner-like rights. Two aspects of this might be: - Non-owner members would not be able to delete tiddlers (unless granted that right). Now they can, which may be risky: say, conflicts arise in your group of members and somebody starts deleting their 'enemy's' tiddlers... no good. - There'd be three rather than two levels of potential 'privateness' to a tiddler: public (as current), members-only, and private (which only the owner and members-with-that-right see). Thus I could lead a space on a project involving a bunch of people (members), keep some notes and thoughts purely of and for myself in the same space (handy), and show the larger public some facade tiddlers. Just my newbie's thoughts, given my limited comprehension of what this is all about, plus an idea of what I'd like to do with it (and maybe others too). ~P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
Re: [tw] Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?
Hi Verrehaal, Lets see if I can answer a few of these questions for you. have you tried copy paste the 5 tiddlers listed Tags:RinTheme to a tiddlyspace? Just tried that: it seems to be working fine. (Was a bit confusing because I lost a 'new tiddler' option on screen after I copy/pasted the Rin PageTemplate; but I found 'new tiddler' on the backstage.) TiddlySpace uses a different set of Edit, View and Page Templates from a standard TW so this is why things like the new tiddler option will have gone missing. In the TiddlySpace PageTemplate there is a line div id='sidebarOptions' refresh='content' tiddler='SideBarOptions'/div which results in the commands like 'new tiddler' appearing. This is done through something we call tiddler transclusion. You can read more about it here: http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Transclusion have a look at:http://themes.tiddlyspace.com/which contains ready to use TiddlySpace themes. That works, too. The classictheme in particular, as it has better font sizes. Let me mention that the default TS theme (while otherwise nice) doesn't look good on a small screen like the 800x480 I'm using (in Firefox 3.6, even fullscreen). With default zoom the titles look way too big: http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4369/tsfaqscreenshot.png When zooming out the regular text becomes too small; I'd say the titles are too big /relatively/: http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1104/tsfaqscreenshot2.png Not sure if it's possible to set font sizes so they look good on any reasonable resolution... but surely there's % and ems and so on (newbie here)? Thanks for pointing this out to us. We'll try to rectify that so that there is a better viewing experience at 800x600 Two more sets of comments/questions. [1] Still regarding layout etc. If I include, say, 'classictheme' (or copy/paste 'Rin'), the result has no search field, regrettably. How do I go about adding one? Similar to above. It needs to be in the PageTemplate. The default TS theme has it on the 3rd line, like so; div class='header' div id='sidebarSearch' span macro='search search'/span /div This time instead of using tiddler transclusion a macro is being used.There are a set of default macros in TW/TS that perform certain tasks, and other macros(plugins) can be written to plugin to your TW/TS. There are lots out there already if you know what you want :) Again this might help - http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Macro Is this 'includable', TS-style, and how would I know other than asking here? Or should I 'import' it from a (which?) more general TW file? What about adding a 'new journal entry' button, a calendar, and the option to comment on tiddlers? I see e.g. CalendarPlugin listed as 'currently loaded' under backstage:plugins, but that doesn't make a calendar show up...? The majority of things you mention here can be achieved by using plugins that people have written. The link above should help you understand how to use them. For example, you can use comments by including the comments space http://comments.tiddlyspace.com/ and editing your ViewTemplate to include this line div class='comments-wrapper' macro='Comments'/div where you want the comments to be displayed. [2] I would love to use TW/TS for a multi-user project blog (with the above elements). I'm unclear whether this is currently possible. Or is another type of TW solution more viable right now? Note I don't have my own server space. You can do this now by using tiddlyspace. Having a space for your project and adding the other users as members of the space - There'd be three rather than two levels of potential 'privateness' to a tiddler: public (as current), members-only, and private (which only the owner and members-with-that-right see). Thus I could lead a space on a project involving a bunch of people (members), keep some notes and thoughts purely of and for myself in the same space (handy), and show the larger public some facade tiddlers. I think this use case can be achieved by using multiple spaces. The leader can have there own space where they keep their own notes. The team can use a different space for their project keeping the work/notes private (i.e. visible only to members), and making the facade tiddlers public so that non members can see them Just my newbie's thoughts, given my limited comprehension of what this is all about, plus an idea of what I'd like to do with it (and maybe others too). ~P Hope that answers at least some of your questions Colm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?
Hello, How to import a TW theme to TiddlySpace? I've tried entering e.g. http://tiddlythemes.com/empties/Rin.html into ImportTiddlers yet it results in an Unable to import from this location due to cross-domain restrictions. error. Same for trying to import the http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImportTiddlersPlugin tool. I gather from other posts that it /is/ possible to change (import?) themes, but can't see the basic steps to be made. cheers ~P -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlyw...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
