Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
I assume you are using a mac so I can't say for any level of certainty, but TW is working fine with Firefox to my knowledge... I use TW with FF Stable 18 - Nightly 25 with no issues. Perhaps you would like to give more details about you're firefox setup and issues? The most common issue with a lot of people and firefox is using an out of date version of tiddlyfox found in the addon depot instead use the one found here: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox On Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:29:19 PM UTC-7, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net javascript: wrote: On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, packetlevel jsgo...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I was just coming here to report that the latest update to Safari, as well as update to Firefox - v21 both have eliminated saving. Backing off the version restores saving - Safari and FF are both broken for TW right now - So is this the final verdict, at least for the moment, on saving in Safari? TiddlyWiki is now unusable to me. Given the lack of response to my requests for help it appears that it's going to remain that way. That disappoints me greatly. TiddlyWiki is an amazing app. Unfortunately, the very things that make it amazing mean that without good documentation and technical support it is impractical for ordinary nonprogrammer users. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net javascript: You will be needed in the movement when you realize that you are not needed in the movement. - Chris Crass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
Hi Eric Apologies for the late reply. I've installed Java 7 on my Mac and have been trying to debug what's going on. At the moment, I believe that you have uncovered an incompatibility between the new version of Java and TiddlySaver, but further investigation is needed. As others have pointed out, Firefox+TiddlyFox is the most reliable, future proof way to save changes in TiddlyWiki on desktop and mobile. Best wishes Jeremy On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Arc Acorn nuttyta...@gmail.com wrote: I assume you are using a mac so I can't say for any level of certainty, but TW is working fine with Firefox to my knowledge... I use TW with FF Stable 18 - Nightly 25 with no issues. Perhaps you would like to give more details about you're firefox setup and issues? The most common issue with a lot of people and firefox is using an out of date version of tiddlyfox found in the addon depot instead use the one found here: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox On Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:29:19 PM UTC-7, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, packetlevel jsgo...@gmail.com wrote: I was just coming here to report that the latest update to Safari, as well as update to Firefox - v21 both have eliminated saving. Backing off the version restores saving - Safari and FF are both broken for TW right now - So is this the final verdict, at least for the moment, on saving in Safari? TiddlyWiki is now unusable to me. Given the lack of response to my requests for help it appears that it's going to remain that way. That disappoints me greatly. TiddlyWiki is an amazing app. Unfortunately, the very things that make it amazing mean that without good documentation and technical support it is impractical for ordinary nonprogrammer users. --**--**-- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You will be needed in the movement when you realize that you are not needed in the movement. - Chris Crass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
Eric - further to the message below, it may be worth trying to go back to Java 7 version 21 as a workaround: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/pYsPQH8LGWU/discussion Best wishes Jeremy On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Eric Apologies for the late reply. I've installed Java 7 on my Mac and have been trying to debug what's going on. At the moment, I believe that you have uncovered an incompatibility between the new version of Java and TiddlySaver, but further investigation is needed. As others have pointed out, Firefox+TiddlyFox is the most reliable, future proof way to save changes in TiddlyWiki on desktop and mobile. Best wishes Jeremy On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Arc Acorn nuttyta...@gmail.com wrote: I assume you are using a mac so I can't say for any level of certainty, but TW is working fine with Firefox to my knowledge... I use TW with FF Stable 18 - Nightly 25 with no issues. Perhaps you would like to give more details about you're firefox setup and issues? The most common issue with a lot of people and firefox is using an out of date version of tiddlyfox found in the addon depot instead use the one found here: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox On Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:29:19 PM UTC-7, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, packetlevel jsgo...@gmail.com wrote: I was just coming here to report that the latest update to Safari, as well as update to Firefox - v21 both have eliminated saving. Backing off the version restores saving - Safari and FF are both broken for TW right now - So is this the final verdict, at least for the moment, on saving in Safari? TiddlyWiki is now unusable to me. Given the lack of response to my requests for help it appears that it's going to remain that way. That disappoints me greatly. TiddlyWiki is an amazing app. Unfortunately, the very things that make it amazing mean that without good documentation and technical support it is impractical for ordinary nonprogrammer users. --**--**-- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You will be needed in the movement when you realize that you are not needed in the movement. - Chris Crass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for the late reply. I've installed Java 7 on my Mac and have been trying to debug what's going on. At the moment, I believe that you have uncovered an incompatibility between the new version of Java and TiddlySaver, but further investigation is needed. Thanks, Jeremy. The explanation helps. As others have pointed out, Firefox+TiddlyFox is the most reliable, future proof way to save changes in TiddlyWiki on desktop and mobile. Yes, I'll keep that in mind. Perhaps irrational, but I was hoping to be able to stick with Safari. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, packetlevel jsgon...@gmail.com wrote: I was just coming here to report that the latest update to Safari, as well as update to Firefox - v21 both have eliminated saving. Backing off the version restores saving - Safari and FF are both broken for TW right now - So is this the final verdict, at least for the moment, on saving in Safari? TiddlyWiki is now unusable to me. Given the lack of response to my requests for help it appears that it's going to remain that way. That disappoints me greatly. TiddlyWiki is an amazing app. Unfortunately, the very things that make it amazing mean that without good documentation and technical support it is impractical for ordinary nonprogrammer users. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net You will be needed in the movement when you realize that you are not needed in the movement. - Chris Crass -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, packetlevel jsgon...@gmail.com wrote: I was just coming here to report that the latest update to Safari, as well as update to Firefox - v21 both have eliminated saving. Backing off the version restores saving - Safari and FF are both broken for TW right now - So is this the final verdict, at least for the moment, on saving in Safari? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net The most important thing is the tee-shirt. - Samara Alnafdage -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 20, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Doing a bit of googling, something obvious that might be worth checking: check that Safari Preferences Security Enable Java is turned on. Well, I can report progress, but still no prize. Googling I became aware that you have to click on plugin inactive that was showing when I went to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp Now it tells me Java SE 7 Update 25 is running. But I'm still not able to save. Java is enabled. I've tried restarting Safari and rebooting the system. Still not able to save. The notice of verification of signature and request to run TW does not display. Might get help with this by further Googling, but perhaps at this point there's something TW folks could suggest. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “On the basis of evidence we may be sure that we are wrong but we can never be sure that we are right.” - Richard Feynman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: I think the issue might be that Java isn't installed by default on Mountain Lion. As far as I can tell, the best way to get it is to install it from Oracle's site: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp Thanks for the link, Jeremy. Java is installed. I quit Safari and restarted. Still not able to save. TiddlySaver.jar is in the folder with the TWs. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net It is the mark of an educated man to look for precision in each class of things just so far as the nature of the subject admits. - Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
Hi Eric Thanks for the link, Jeremy. Java is installed. I quit Safari and restarted. Still not able to save. TiddlySaver.jar is in the folder with the TWs. Hmm, I'm not sure what to suggest - do other Java applets work for you in Safari? If not, I guess you're looking at some Java configuration issue. If you can run other applets then there might be something we can track down, Best wishes Jeremy -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net It is the mark of an educated man to look for precision in each class of things just so far as the nature of the subject admits. - Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, I'm not sure what to suggest - do other Java applets work for you in Safari? If not, I guess you're looking at some Java configuration issue. If you can run other applets then there might be something we can track down. Hmm. Don't have or run any applets that I know of. Would rebooting resolve it? I'll give it a try. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
Hmm, I'm not sure what to suggest - do other Java applets work for you in Safari? If not, I guess you're looking at some Java configuration issue. If you can run other applets then there might be something we can track down. Hmm. Don't have or run any applets that I know of. Try this test page: www.java.com/testjava/ Would rebooting resolve it? I'll give it a try. Yup, always worth a try. Best wishes Jeremy -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
page: www.java.com/testjava/ I did all the tests recommended there, including reverting to Java 6, and deactivating it and reinstalling Java 7. Still unable to save. And what about other Java applets, do they run? Cheers Jeremy -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net A man should be in the world as though he were not in it so that it will be no worse because of his life. - Wendell Berry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
Again, don't know that I have any applets. One indicator of the situation. When you open the page at the link above you're supposed to be able to see your machine information. I cannot. And did everything the recommended in that case. Still no go. Applets are a special type of widget that can be embedded in a webpage. To test whether your browser supports applets you just need to visit a page containing an applet. The test page you tried contains an applet, and from your description the applet is not loading. Therefore the problem you've got at the moment is that Java isn't working, which is a bigger, broader problem than just TW not working. It's also easier to fix - many people do still run Java for many reasons, and so we can be confident that it can be made to work on your machine. Doing a bit of googling, something obvious that might be worth checking: check that Safari Preferences Security Enable Java is turned on. Best wishes Jeremy I'm off to a dental appointment. Maybe the system will have fixed itself when I get back. -;) -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Not able to save with Safari
Just finishing up setting up a new computer. I am now unable to save TWs running in Safari. TiddlySaver.jar is in the folder with the TWs. No problem on OS X Snow Leopard. Now on Mountain Lion. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [tw] Not able to save with Safari
Hi Eric I think the issue might be that Java isn't installed by default on Mountain Lion. As far as I can tell, the best way to get it is to install it from Oracle's site: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp Let us know how you get on, Best wishes Jeremy On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Just finishing up setting up a new computer. I am now unable to save TWs running in Safari. TiddlySaver.jar is in the folder with the TWs. No problem on OS X Snow Leopard. Now on Mountain Lion. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
