Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[PMario]

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 10:10:27 PM UTC+2, magev958 wrote:

 Since 5.1.9 this do not work anymore for me :(


Hi magev958,

You expect everyone to read the whole thread, to find out and guess, what 
this means for you?

Please be more specific about your exact setting, so we are able to 
reproduce your problem and use our private spare time more efficient. 
A simple test case at tiddlyspot, is always a bonus ;)

-mario
 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

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Since 5.1.9 this do not work anymore for me :(

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[The Bo]

Hi Jeremy,

now I've got it. ;) I will keep that in mind.

Greetings
Tueb

Am Freitag, 20. Februar 2015 17:26:44 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

 Hi Bo
  

 Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists: 
 Replace the code tabs  ... $:/core/ui/sidebar/open ...  to the 
 tab you want to start with.

 works for me. Am I missing something?


 Apologies, what I should have said is that there's no way to configure the 
 default tab without overriding the sidebar lists shadow tiddler. The 
 disadvantage of doing that is that it means that you won't get updates to 
 that tiddler that may arrive in future upgrades of the TiddlyWiki core.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

  


  


 Greeting
 Tueb

 Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

 Hi Bo

 It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can explicitly 
 allow saving for the tiddler that contains the state of the sidebar tabs, 
 which means that when you save the current state will be remembered:

 \define saveTiddlerFilter()
 [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]] 
 -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] 
 -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]] 
 -[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]] 
 [[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
 \end
 {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo hey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks to both of you! :)

 @Jeremy
 Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for. 

 There is just one little issue: 
 How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as the default 
 startup-tab?

 Greeting
 Tueb

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[The Bo]

Hi Jeremy,

Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists: 
Replace the code tabs  ... $:/core/ui/sidebar/open ...  to the tab 
you want to start with.

works for me. Am I missing something?

Greeting
Tueb

Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

 Hi Bo

 It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can explicitly 
 allow saving for the tiddler that contains the state of the sidebar tabs, 
 which means that when you save the current state will be remembered:

 \define saveTiddlerFilter()
 [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]] 
 -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] 
 -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]] 
 -[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]] 
 [[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
 \end
 {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo hey...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks to both of you! :)

 @Jeremy
 Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for. 

 There is just one little issue: 
 How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as the default 
 startup-tab?

 Greeting
 Tueb

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Bo


 Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists:
 Replace the code tabs  ... $:/core/ui/sidebar/open ...  to the tab
 you want to start with.

 works for me. Am I missing something?


Apologies, what I should have said is that there's no way to configure the
default tab without overriding the sidebar lists shadow tiddler. The
disadvantage of doing that is that it means that you won't get updates to
that tiddler that may arrive in future upgrades of the TiddlyWiki core.

Best wishes

Jeremy







 Greeting
 Tueb

 Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

 Hi Bo

 It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can explicitly
 allow saving for the tiddler that contains the state of the sidebar tabs,
 which means that when you save the current state will be remembered:

 \define saveTiddlerFilter()
 [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]]
 -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]]
 -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]]
 -[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]]
 [[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
 \end
 {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo hey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks to both of you! :)

 @Jeremy
 Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for.

 There is just one little issue:
 How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as the default
 startup-tab?

 Greeting
 Tueb

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Felix Küppers]

ok, once I am back from vacation :)

On 20.02.2015 17:47, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

Hi Felix

A good solution would be to outsource the default just like the
search result tabs now work. It would be really nice to decide
which sidebar tab is the default.


Yup, that would be very doable. Pull request welcome :)

Best wishes

Jeremy


-felix


On 20.02.2015 17:26, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

Hi Bo

Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists:
Replace the code tabs ... $:/core/ui/sidebar/open ...
 to the tab you want to start with.

works for me. Am I missing something?


Apologies, what I should have said is that there's no way to
configure the default tab without overriding the sidebar lists
shadow tiddler. The disadvantage of doing that is that it means
that you won't get updates to that tiddler that may arrive in
future upgrades of the TiddlyWiki core.

Best wishes

Jeremy




Greeting
Tueb

Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy
Ruston:

Hi Bo

It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You
can explicitly allow saving for the tiddler that contains
the state of the sidebar tabs, which means that when you
save the current state will be remembered:

\define saveTiddlerFilter()
[is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]]
-[[$:/HistoryList]] -[[$:/boot/boot.css]]
-[type[application/javascript]library[yes]]
-[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]]
-[[$:/status/UserName]] -[prefix[$:/state]]
-[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]]
[[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
\end
{{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

Best wishes

Jeremy


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hey...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Thanks to both of you! :)

@Jeremy
Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I
was looking for.

There is just one little issue:
How can I define contents-toc for replacing open
as the default startup-tab?

Greeting
Tueb
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Have fun!

Cheers

Jeremy

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Felix Küppers felixkuepp...@hotmail.de
wrote:

  ok, once I am back from vacation :)


 On 20.02.2015 17:47, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Felix

   A good solution would be to outsource the default just like the search
 result tabs now work. It would be really nice to decide which sidebar tab
 is the default.


  Yup, that would be very doable. Pull request welcome :)

  Best wishes

  Jeremy




 -felix


 On 20.02.2015 17:26, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

  Hi Bo


 Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists:
 Replace the code tabs  ... $:/core/ui/sidebar/open ...  to the
 tab you want to start with.

 works for me. Am I missing something?


  Apologies, what I should have said is that there's no way to configure
 the default tab without overriding the sidebar lists shadow tiddler. The
 disadvantage of doing that is that it means that you won't get updates to
 that tiddler that may arrive in future upgrades of the TiddlyWiki core.

  Best wishes

  Jeremy







 Greeting
 Tueb

 Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

 Hi Bo

  It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can
 explicitly allow saving for the tiddler that contains the state of the
 sidebar tabs, which means that when you save the current state will be
 remembered:

  \define saveTiddlerFilter()
 [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]]
 -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]]
 -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]]
 -[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]]
 [[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
 \end
 {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

  Best wishes

  Jeremy


 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo hey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks to both of you! :)

 @Jeremy
 Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for.

 There is just one little issue:
 How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as the default
 startup-tab?

 Greeting
 Tueb
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Felix Küppers]

A good solution would be to outsource the default just like the search 
result tabs now work. It would be really nice to decide which sidebar 
tab is the default.


-felix

On 20.02.2015 17:26, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

Hi Bo

Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists:
Replace the code tabs  ... $:/core/ui/sidebar/open ...  to
the tab you want to start with.

works for me. Am I missing something?


Apologies, what I should have said is that there's no way to configure 
the default tab without overriding the sidebar lists shadow tiddler. 
The disadvantage of doing that is that it means that you won't get 
updates to that tiddler that may arrive in future upgrades of the 
TiddlyWiki core.


Best wishes

Jeremy




Greeting
Tueb

Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

Hi Bo

It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can
explicitly allow saving for the tiddler that contains the
state of the sidebar tabs, which means that when you save the
current state will be remembered:

\define saveTiddlerFilter()
[is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]]
-[[$:/boot/boot.css]]
-[type[application/javascript]library[yes]]
-[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]]
-[[$:/status/UserName]] -[prefix[$:/state]]
-[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]]
[[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
\end
{{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo hey...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Thanks to both of you! :)

@Jeremy
Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was
looking for.

There is just one little issue:
How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as
the default startup-tab?

Greeting
Tueb
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Felix

 A good solution would be to outsource the default just like the search
 result tabs now work. It would be really nice to decide which sidebar tab
 is the default.


Yup, that would be very doable. Pull request welcome :)

Best wishes

Jeremy




 -felix


 On 20.02.2015 17:26, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Bo


 Change the system-tiddler $:/core/ui/sidebarlists:
 Replace the code tabs  ... $:/core/ui/sidebar/open ...  to the
 tab you want to start with.

 works for me. Am I missing something?


  Apologies, what I should have said is that there's no way to configure
 the default tab without overriding the sidebar lists shadow tiddler. The
 disadvantage of doing that is that it means that you won't get updates to
 that tiddler that may arrive in future upgrades of the TiddlyWiki core.

  Best wishes

  Jeremy







 Greeting
 Tueb

 Am Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2015 19:14:31 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:

 Hi Bo

  It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can
 explicitly allow saving for the tiddler that contains the state of the
 sidebar tabs, which means that when you save the current state will be
 remembered:

  \define saveTiddlerFilter()
 [is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]]
 -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]]
 -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]]
 -[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]]
 [[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
 \end
 {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

  Best wishes

  Jeremy


 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo hey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks to both of you! :)

 @Jeremy
 Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for.

 There is just one little issue:
 How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as the default
 startup-tab?

 Greeting
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Tobias Beer]

HI Bo,

I believe you can achieve your desired goal by changing what tiddlers get 
stored by TiddlyWiki...

States And Temporary Tiddlers @tb5 
http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#States%20And%20Temporary%20Tiddlers

So, you want to figure out the state tiddler for your ToC individually or 
simply exclude any *-[prefix[$:/state/]]* from ever being saved.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[The Bo]

Hi,

Thanks to both of you! :)

@Jeremy
Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for. 

There is just one little issue: 
How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as the default 
startup-tab?

Greeting
Tueb

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Bo

Here are the full changes to $:/core/save/all:

\define saveTiddlerFilter()
[is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]]
-[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]]
-[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]]
-[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]] +[sort[title]]
\end
{{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI Bo,

 I believe you can achieve your desired goal by changing what tiddlers get
 stored by TiddlyWiki...

 States And Temporary Tiddlers @tb5
 http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#States%20And%20Temporary%20Tiddlers

 So, you want to figure out the state tiddler for your ToC individually or
 simply exclude any *-[prefix[$:/state/]]* from ever being saved.

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Default settings for startup (after saving)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Bo

It's not currently possible to force the initial tab. You can explicitly
allow saving for the tiddler that contains the state of the sidebar tabs,
which means that when you save the current state will be remembered:

\define saveTiddlerFilter()
[is[tiddler]] -[prefix[$:/state/popup/]] -[[$:/HistoryList]]
-[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]]
-[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] -[[$:/status/UserName]]
-[prefix[$:/state]] -[prefix:[$:/temp]] -[[$:/StoryList]]
[[$:/state/tab/sidebar--1835078512]is[tiddler]] +[sort[title]]
\end
{{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, The Bo heyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks to both of you! :)

 @Jeremy
 Your changes to $:/core/save/all do exactly what I was looking for.

 There is just one little issue:
 How can I define contents-toc for replacing open as the default
 startup-tab?

 Greeting
 Tueb

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