[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
Further to what Wolfgang said: have you tried opening Firefox in Safe mode without any extensions and then opening your MonkeyGTD file? If that works then you'd have to start considering which of your Add-ons/extensions might be causing the problem. With the most recent Firefox/extension upgrades I found I had to turn CoolPreviews off and disable ResizeableTextarea in order to get my MonkeyGTD file to work. cmari On Aug 21, 4:27 am, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folliet: and cannot load either that or this without errors. is there a link that will help or someone who could talk me thru? Take a look here:http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Troubleshooting Did you install or update any Firefox addons recently? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
On 19 Aug., 12:00, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: I've been able to squeeze an other 91kb out of the last version You might wanna read up on minification vs. packing, Wolfgang. This might be a good starting point: ...: So we have to decide what's more important - filesize or startup time. While the former has always been an important factor (though perhaps mostly psychological), it might not be worth sacrificing performance for. We'll do some profiling of our own to determine how significant this difference really is. On 29 Jan., 15:33, Saq Imtiaz lew...@gmail.com wrote: I think profiling is definitely needed before a decision can be made on this. Note that TinyTiddly has been using the minified slower type of compression since the beginning and no one has noticed or remarked on any difference in performance as compared to the regular version of TiddlyWiki. TinyTiddly may also prove useful for purposes of profiling the performance effects of minifying. (http://tinytiddly.lewcid.org) Has any profiling been done? - before the decision was made due to the following reasons: On 5 Feb., 16:58, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: After some deliberation, we think that using the packed version in the TiddlyWiki core is not a good idea: * web servers usually support compression via gzip * the decompression is fairly slow in JavaScript[1] * packed code makes debugging very painful * packing can introduce bugs * packed scripts are almost impossible to read, which breaks TiddlyWiki's view source paradigm (even though minified scripts are compressed as well, the obfuscation isn't as comprehensive) * packing requires additional effort when creating a release * the jQuery team doesn't provide a packed version anymore, and creating a custom derivative should generally be avoided Hmm.. I would still be interrested in the results of profiling. Because all reasons against higher compression seem to me more concerned with fears which never came true by using Saq's compressed version for years now, or developmental reasons which for me - as a user - don't count. Filesize is a major factor with no high speed internet ... for most in Brazil, Nigeria, India.. Wolfgang, I would be interested in any ways to further reduce the code but I really don't buy into the whole packing idea so would rather not do it this way.. Jon I followed Saq's advise of using a combination of JSMin, Shrinksafe and Packer. Which I found in combination here: http://compressorrater.thruhere.net/ Last time and the core of the 2.5.2 version rising above the then filesize limit at compressorrater - I used JSUtility for the fist time with good results too: http://jsutility.pjoneil.net/ But I've no idea how to use these automatically.. Regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
I've adjusted it even further to minify shadow tiddlers (with the exception of ColorPalette which cannot be packed as the new lines are significant in this tiddler). This saves only 1kb but every little helps. Wolfgang, I would be interested in any ways to further reduce the code but I really don't buy into the whole packing idea so would rather not do it this way.. Jon On Aug 19, 11:00 am, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: the main page loads with four plug-in errors on my system I'm afraid I cannot reproduce this (FF 3.5 on Ubuntu). Can you provide more details* on those errors? If anyone is interested I will be maintaining a compressed version of TiddlyWiki with the goal of reducing file size Thanks for providing this service to the community, Jon! I've been able to squeeze an other 91kb out of the last version You might wanna read up on minification vs. packing, Wolfgang. This might be a good starting point:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/d12... -- F. * cf.http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Troubleshooting --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
Just a quick note; The RSS feed for TW has apparently ignored the release of 2.5.3. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
The RSS feed for TW has apparently ignored the release of 2.5.3. That's odd - loading http://tiddlywiki.com/index.xml shows NewFeatures at the top, with modification date 2009-08-18T0100 - perhaps your feed reader hasn't picked that up yet? -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
Sorry. Firefox has been showing 'New Features' since the 2.5.0 release. I don't expect the same entry to be changed with new data; I've always expected new information to come in a new article. My bad assumption. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
great news BUT the main page loads with four plug-in errors on my system. Win XP and Firefox 3.5.2 DownloadTiddlyWiki Example SimpleSearch SplashScreen and I don't know what to do to get around this. hints and tips? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
If anyone is interested I will be maintaining a compressed version of TiddlyWiki with the goal of reducing file size and maintaining performance as much as possible. Essentially at the moment this does this by minifying the javascript code.. Link is here if you are interested: http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/workspaces/tiddlers/Tinier%20tiddlywiki/ On Aug 18, 11:05 am, FND f...@gmx.net wrote: (I'm writing this on Jeremy behalf, since he's on holiday.) We've just published the new release 2.5.3 of TiddlyWiki, which can be found in the usual place: http://www.tiddlywiki.com The major changes for this release are: * Fixed problems in 2.5.2 with saving/loading and importing tiddlers * Fixed problem with lack of confirmation prompt when cancelling editing on new and shadow tiddlers * Improved feedback on synchronization and dynamic loading of tiddlers For the full release notes see: http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/History We have also created an archive of previous releases of TiddlyWiki: http://www.tiddlywiki.com/archive/ As usual, thanks are due to many members of the TiddlyWiki community who have contributed to this release. Frederik and Martin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.3
We have also created an archive of previous releases of TiddlyWiki: http://www.tiddlywiki.com/archive/ Many thanks for your efforts, Fred, Martin and everyone involved. If anyone is interested I will be maintaining a compressed version of TiddlyWiki with the goal of reducing file size and maintaining performance as much as possible. Essentially at the moment this does this by minifying the javascript code.. With the last version I did that manually - so, great - you made an automatic compressed version of TiddlyWiki available again. Link is here if you are interested:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/workspaces/tiddlers/Tinier%20tiddlywiki/ Hope this is useful! This will shave about 84kb off your filesize, however I'm working on ways to improve this even more... Would be nice. Since I've been able to squeeze an other 91kb out of the last version: http://tinytiddly.tiddlyspot.com/ Regards.. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
