[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm thinking that the practical way to deal with this, at least using Jed's 
system, would be to create a set of separate tiddlers as Definitions.

Each tiddler would be tagged with Definition (instead of as a plant) and 
would have a compound title. Like:

Root-Antiseptic

It would then have two fields, "useful_part" and "effect".

You would set these up in advance, mostly, to save time during data entry.

Because they're tagged as Definitions, a drop-down list could be used in 
the Edit template to allow you to select appropriate items. Possibly a 
compound select using one of the fields could be used to help make the 
selection easier (a compound list is a list separated into categories).

You would do the same thing for other associations (e.g. plant part - 
chemical)

Have fun,
Mark


On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 4:26:41 AM UTC-7, Radium wrote:
>
> *Idea for relating the values between TWO different TagTypes (uses, parts, 
> chems, etc):*
>
> For scientific fields which require this level of detail, like 
> pharmacognosy (study of medicinal plants and making drugs out of them).
>
>
> Example uses:
> - sorting the plants with "tyramine" inside their "root".
> - sorting the plants with "stimulant" effects within their "bark"
>
> Obviously we need a Dict datatype here which can optionally store arrays 
> as both key and value:
> [[key]:[value]]
>
> 1:n examples:
> - [root:[stimulant, antiseptic, neuroprotective]] (part:effect pair)
> - [root:[tyramine, caffeine, yohimbine, capsicin]] (part:chem pair)
>
> n:m examples:
> - [[root, leaf, bark]:[depressant, cardiotoxic]]
> - [[branch, blossom]:[tyramine, tannins]]
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Matabele]

Hi Radium

An alternative to dropdowns, is to cycle through available options -- like 
the keep operator example on the ActionListops widget demo site: 
http://listops.tiddlyspot.com/

You'll need the x-listops filter set from the site, which includes the 
cycle[] and keep[] operators used for this demo.

regards

On Monday, 23 May 2016 12:43:36 UTC+2, Radium wrote:
>
> Some fields like "medicinal plants" have a mind blowing number of "bits & 
> pieces",
> So a drop-down list for "parts" seams logical, but think twice about 
> "uses" if your desktop doesn't have 50 monitors stacked on top of each 
> other ;)
> A simple text-field armed with a "suggestions as typing" function is far 
> better for "uses".
>
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:31:39 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that's really cool. And you did all that on a tablet?
>>
>> To turn it into a standardized database application, could those use and 
>> part options come from a drop down list?
>>
>> Without a standardized list, what happens is that you get variant 
>> spellings for the same thing (e.g. "Leaves" vs "leafs", "antispetic" vs 
>> "antiseptic") Those variants will make analyzing the data later much harder.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 1:32:44 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>>
>>> I would also recommend TiddlyMap, but it may get a bit unwieldy if you 
>>> have 300 nodes. 
>>>
>>> I doubt that anything will be finished in time to be very useful by 
>>> monday, but I am hoping to make a generic encyclopedia model for TiddlyWiki 
>>> using a lot of things I have made 
>>> . While it isn't 
>>> immediately obvious a lot of the functionality you want is already in what 
>>> I made. Unfortunately one of the biggest problems with TiddlyWiki at the 
>>> moment is the difficultly going from understanding the very basic use as 
>>> something like a journal or linked notebook to understanding more complex 
>>> uses. We are working on it.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, everything in your list (all the plants belonging to X 
>>> family, listing all plants with medicinal "root bark", etc.) can be done 
>>> relatively simply using what you inspired me to make from your request (
>>> here 
>>> ).
>>>  
>>> I am working to find a reasonable way for someone who isn't familiar with 
>>> TiddlyWiki to use them effectively.
>>>
>>> Once I get the new changes added into the encyclopedia demo I made than 
>>> just clicking on the tag pill for each section will list everything that 
>>> has that entry. So everything that has antiseptic listed under uses will 
>>> appear if you click on the pill antiseptic in the uses list.
>>> There are other ways it will be able to be sorted or searched through as 
>>> well, like a drop down menu where you can select from all the uses to get a 
>>> list of things that match it.
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Alex Hough]

Radium,

It would be interesting (to me at least) to see your works in progress. It
would be fantastic to see how your thinking, Jed's work and Matt's
contributions develop



best wishes

Alex

On 23 May 2016 at 12:26, Radium  wrote:

> *Idea for relating the values between TWO different TagTypes (uses, parts,
> chems, etc):*
>
> For scientific fields which require this level of detail, like
> pharmacognosy (study of medicinal plants and making drugs out of them).
>
>
> Example uses:
> - sorting the plants with "tyramine" inside their "root".
> - sorting the plants with "stimulant" effects within their "bark"
>
> Obviously we need a Dict datatype here which can optionally store arrays
> as both key and value:
> [[key]:[value]]
>
> 1:n examples:
> - [root:[stimulant, antiseptic, neuroprotective]] (part:effect pair)
> - [root:[tyramine, caffeine, yohimbine, capsicin]] (part:chem pair)
>
> n:m examples:
> - [[root, leaf, bark]:[depressant, cardiotoxic]]
> - [[branch, blossom]:[tyramine, tannins]]
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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Radium]

*Idea for relating the values between TWO different TagTypes (uses, parts, 
chems, etc):*

For scientific fields which require this level of detail, like 
pharmacognosy (study of medicinal plants and making drugs out of them).


Example uses:
- sorting the plants with "tyramine" inside their "root".
- sorting the plants with "stimulant" effects within their "bark"

Obviously we need a Dict datatype here which can optionally store arrays as 
both key and value:
[[key]:[value]]

1:n examples:
- [root:[stimulant, antiseptic, neuroprotective]] (part:effect pair)
- [root:[tyramine, caffeine, yohimbine, capsicin]] (part:chem pair)

n:m examples:
- [[root, leaf, bark]:[depressant, cardiotoxic]]
- [[branch, blossom]:[tyramine, tannins]]

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Radium]

I'm going to use the system and data for the rest of my life.
I'm a pharmacist, with lots of info about drugs and plants to "organize in 
my own way", and use it when I need it throughout my career.
So yeah, I'm in for the long-term.
But along making your stuff to use,
I will try to learn from you how to catch a fish as well,
To be able to do the tiny detail tweaks myself.

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 3:32:39 PM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Radium,
>
> The updated version clears the input when you click add as well as many 
> other improvements. I haven't gotten around to updating the encyclopedia 
> part of it yet though. There are many improvements in what I am making so 
> if you are planning on using this in any sort of long term sense you may 
> want to wait a bit until I get around to updating this part. 
>
> Or you could try creating one yourself if you wish using the generic tags 
> field plugin I am working on. Look at the other thread about generic tag 
> fields, I will be posting an updated version of that in the next hour or so.
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Jed Carty]

Radium,

The updated version clears the input when you click add as well as many 
other improvements. I haven't gotten around to updating the encyclopedia 
part of it yet though. There are many improvements in what I am making so 
if you are planning on using this in any sort of long term sense you may 
want to wait a bit until I get around to updating this part. 

Or you could try creating one yourself if you wish using the generic tags 
field plugin I am working on. Look at the other thread about generic tag 
fields, I will be posting an updated version of that in the next hour or so.

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Radium]

Jed,
Regarding your current plants TW plugin/extension/edition (what shall I 
call it?)
Is it possible for text-fields to get clear after clicking the "add" button 
or ENTER key?
Since:
writing + ENTER (or clicking the "Add" button) 
is better than:
writing + ENTER (or clicking the "Add" button) + select the old input 
inside textfield + DELETE  

Especially when you're going to enter data by hand all night :D

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Radium]

Some fields like "medicinal plants" have a mind blowing number of "bits & 
pieces",
So a drop-down list for "parts" seams logical, but think twice about "uses" 
if your desktop doesn't have 50 monitors stacked on top of each other ;)
A simple text-field armed with a "suggestions as typing" function is far 
better for "uses".

On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:31:39 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Wow, that's really cool. And you did all that on a tablet?
>
> To turn it into a standardized database application, could those use and 
> part options come from a drop down list?
>
> Without a standardized list, what happens is that you get variant 
> spellings for the same thing (e.g. "Leaves" vs "leafs", "antispetic" vs 
> "antiseptic") Those variants will make analyzing the data later much harder.
>
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 1:32:44 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> I would also recommend TiddlyMap, but it may get a bit unwieldy if you 
>> have 300 nodes. 
>>
>> I doubt that anything will be finished in time to be very useful by 
>> monday, but I am hoping to make a generic encyclopedia model for TiddlyWiki 
>> using a lot of things I have made 
>> . While it isn't 
>> immediately obvious a lot of the functionality you want is already in what 
>> I made. Unfortunately one of the biggest problems with TiddlyWiki at the 
>> moment is the difficultly going from understanding the very basic use as 
>> something like a journal or linked notebook to understanding more complex 
>> uses. We are working on it.
>>
>> In the meantime, everything in your list (all the plants belonging to X 
>> family, listing all plants with medicinal "root bark", etc.) can be done 
>> relatively simply using what you inspired me to make from your request (
>> here 
>> ).
>>  
>> I am working to find a reasonable way for someone who isn't familiar with 
>> TiddlyWiki to use them effectively.
>>
>> Once I get the new changes added into the encyclopedia demo I made than 
>> just clicking on the tag pill for each section will list everything that 
>> has that entry. So everything that has antiseptic listed under uses will 
>> appear if you click on the pill antiseptic in the uses list.
>> There are other ways it will be able to be sorted or searched through as 
>> well, like a drop down menu where you can select from all the uses to get a 
>> list of things that match it.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Jed Carty]

Mark,

Well, I have a keyboard and I have spent a while getting everything set up 
so I can do some work effectively on my tablet. But most of my work is done 
on a nice desktop with multiple monitors.

I am working on some things that will address those problems by extending 
how tags work in tiddlywiki 
. When I am finished 
than all of the fields should work identically to the tags field in how you 
add and remove things or search in them.

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Wow, that's really cool. And you did all that on a tablet?

To turn it into a standardized database application, could those use and 
part options come from a drop down list?

Without a standardized list, what happens is that you get variant spellings 
for the same thing (e.g. "Leaves" vs "leafs", "antispetic" vs "antiseptic") 
Those variants will make analyzing the data later much harder.

Mark

On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 1:32:44 PM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I would also recommend TiddlyMap, but it may get a bit unwieldy if you 
> have 300 nodes. 
>
> I doubt that anything will be finished in time to be very useful by 
> monday, but I am hoping to make a generic encyclopedia model for TiddlyWiki 
> using a lot of things I have made 
> . While it isn't 
> immediately obvious a lot of the functionality you want is already in what 
> I made. Unfortunately one of the biggest problems with TiddlyWiki at the 
> moment is the difficultly going from understanding the very basic use as 
> something like a journal or linked notebook to understanding more complex 
> uses. We are working on it.
>
> In the meantime, everything in your list (all the plants belonging to X 
> family, listing all plants with medicinal "root bark", etc.) can be done 
> relatively simply using what you inspired me to make from your request (
> here 
> ).
>  
> I am working to find a reasonable way for someone who isn't familiar with 
> TiddlyWiki to use them effectively.
>
> Once I get the new changes added into the encyclopedia demo I made than 
> just clicking on the tag pill for each section will list everything that 
> has that entry. So everything that has antiseptic listed under uses will 
> appear if you click on the pill antiseptic in the uses list.
> There are other ways it will be able to be sorted or searched through as 
> well, like a drop down menu where you can select from all the uses to get a 
> list of things that match it.
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Hi Radium,

Interesting project. It reminds me of a fellow student, Kira Gregory's 
HyperPlants 
 
exercise, as part of the *{{DesignWrite}}* course. I'd really recommend you 
look at this course 
 as a 
great place to start learning about TiddlyWiki.

Hegart.


On Sunday, 22 May 2016 22:58:41 UTC+12, Radium wrote:
>
> I'm a power user with an intermediate programming background (Ruby, Xojo, 
> Pascal, Delphi),
>
> But still I find TiddlyWiki quite confusing and uber-geeky.
>
> It's because I haven't yet figured the big picture about how it works, 
> even after reading the docs.
>
> The docs was very subtle IMO and did not explain the system well.
> Where can I learn more about TW?
>
> It looks and sounds like a truly powerful and suitable personal wiki for 
> me.
> I really like to learn it and put it into use.
>
>
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 8:40:16 AM UTC+4:30, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Radium
>>
>> The $action-listops widget is designed to manipulate fields as lists -- 
>> there are various extended filters designed to work with this widget.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:29:13 UTC+2, Radium wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to make and use a tiddler template named "monograph", which has 
>>> predefined fields such as:
>>>
>>>
>>>- scientific name
>>>- common name
>>>- useful parts
>>>- uses
>>>- habitat
>>>- physical description
>>>- chemicals
>>>
>>>
>>> *And most importantly:*
>>>
>>>
>>>- I need to be able to *search* and *sort* plant tiddlers using any 
>>>of these fields.
>>>- Some fields (like chemicals and useful parts), might contain 
>>>multiple values, and each value needs to be counted as a *separate 
>>>entity*, not a stream of values like a sentence.
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Jed Carty]

I would also recommend TiddlyMap, but it may get a bit unwieldy if you have 
300 nodes. 

I doubt that anything will be finished in time to be very useful by monday, 
but I am hoping to make a generic encyclopedia model for TiddlyWiki using a 
lot of things I have made 
. While it isn't 
immediately obvious a lot of the functionality you want is already in what 
I made. Unfortunately one of the biggest problems with TiddlyWiki at the 
moment is the difficultly going from understanding the very basic use as 
something like a journal or linked notebook to understanding more complex 
uses. We are working on it.

In the meantime, everything in your list (all the plants belonging to X 
family, listing all plants with medicinal "root bark", etc.) can be done 
relatively simply using what you inspired me to make from your request (here 
).
 
I am working to find a reasonable way for someone who isn't familiar with 
TiddlyWiki to use them effectively.

Once I get the new changes added into the encyclopedia demo I made than 
just clicking on the tag pill for each section will list everything that 
has that entry. So everything that has antiseptic listed under uses will 
appear if you click on the pill antiseptic in the uses list.
There are other ways it will be able to be sorted or searched through as 
well, like a drop down menu where you can select from all the uses to get a 
list of things that match it.

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Re: [tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Alex Hough]

Radium,

"In short, I wanted to make a 3D spreadsheet,
where some cells (like "uses", "parts", "chemicals") could store multiple
values (adding depth to cells), or in other words, an array inside a cell"

I think you are describing Jed's latest contribution [1]

It sounds like an interesting project.

If you've not already done so, I'd have a look at TiddlyMap [2] and have a
play


Alex

[1]
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email_source=footer#!msg/tiddlywiki/qBnuMYXXxWw/IBDQVB9NOwAJ
[2] http://tiddlymap.org/

On 22 May 2016 at 20:17, Radium  wrote:

> In short, I wanted to make a 3D spreadsheet,
> where some cells (like "uses", "parts", "chemicals") could store multiple
> values (adding depth to cells), or in other words, an array inside a cell.
>
> This way I could store all the data for all the 300 plants,
> then sort them in whatever way I liked,
> to look at them from different views,
> to help me build more connections between them in my brain,
> and hopefully retain/retrieve the info better in my memory.
>
> For example:
> - listing all the plants belonging to X family.
> - listing all plants with medicinal "root bark"
> - all plants containing Y
> - all plants having sedative properties
>
> (But I'm still figuring how to relate the "useful parts" data with the
> "uses" data.
> i.e. how to link the "sedative" property to the "blossoms", and the
> "antiseptic" property to the "leaf"
> Any ideas???)
>
> I tried MS Excel and Apple Numbers, none supported depth for cells
> (AFAIK), and none had GET functions for extracting multiple values out of a
> text stream based on a delimiter.
> I also asked a friend who had access to FileMaker Pro Advanced 14, and he
> couldn't find a way to do it either.
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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Radium]

In short, I wanted to make a 3D spreadsheet,
where some cells (like "uses", "parts", "chemicals") could store multiple 
values (adding depth to cells), or in other words, an array inside a cell.

This way I could store all the data for all the 300 plants, 
then sort them in whatever way I liked, 
to look at them from different views,
to help me build more connections between them in my brain,
and hopefully retain/retrieve the info better in my memory.

For example:
- listing all the plants belonging to X family.
- listing all plants with medicinal "root bark"
- all plants containing Y
- all plants having sedative properties

(But I'm still figuring how to relate the "useful parts" data with the 
"uses" data.
i.e. how to link the "sedative" property to the "blossoms", and the 
"antiseptic" property to the "leaf"
Any ideas???)

I tried MS Excel and Apple Numbers, none supported depth for cells (AFAIK), 
and none had GET functions for extracting multiple values out of a text 
stream based on a delimiter.
I also asked a friend who had access to FileMaker Pro Advanced 14, and he 
couldn't find a way to do it either.

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Radium]

Oh! Nice!!
I really didn't expect such a nifty job in any reply when I was making this 
topic!
You surprised me with this.

Now it just needs the ability to be able to hold picture(s) of the plant.

Unfortunately I'm in a hurry for an exam, and need to memorize all these 
data for 300 different plants by the next monday.
I will learn HTML, CSS, and JS when summer comes (tell me if something else 
is needed as well).
I want to be able to build/modify similar things like you.

On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 7:10:47 PM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I needed a quick project and this is going to be useful for other things I 
> want to do, so I made this. I am on my tablet and don't have access to my 
> server so have a dropbox link: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1yhvn1u0d2dgd5/EncyclopediaTemplates.html?dl=0
>
> I am not certain I did the sharing correctly, so let me know if that link 
> doesn't work. 
>
> As a side note, I put together a simple implementation of non-tag fields 
> as tag fields. I am pretty certain that other people have already make 
> working versions of this but now there is another one. It just uses some 
> quick modifications to the existing macros and the action-listops widget.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Alex Hough]

is there a way to automatically convert the Dropbox share link to the
dropbox view link?

Alex

On 22 May 2016 at 18:19, cmari  wrote:

> This is pretty nifty! I was initially confused by one small typo:
> In "Medical Plant Template", there's a stray apostrophe at the end of the
> line
> ''Scientific Name'': {{!!scientific_name}}'
>
> Also, in case it's useful to anyone else: things didn't initially work
> when I imported into my TW, which brought to my attention that I needed to
> manually delete my earlier version of matabele's "listops" widget because
> it was overriding the ActionListopsWidget (which came in with release
> 5.1.10, I think?). I hadn't noticed that before, so thank you!
> cmari
>
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 7:40:47 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> I needed a quick project and this is going to be useful for other things
>> I want to do, so I made this. I am on my tablet and don't have access to my
>> server so have a dropbox link:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1yhvn1u0d2dgd5/EncyclopediaTemplates.html?dl=0
>>
>> I am not certain I did the sharing correctly, so let me know if that link
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> As a side note, I put together a simple implementation of non-tag fields
>> as tag fields. I am pretty certain that other people have already make
>> working versions of this but now there is another one. It just uses some
>> quick modifications to the existing macros and the action-listops widget.
>>
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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[cmari]

This is pretty nifty! I was initially confused by one small typo:
In "Medical Plant Template", there's a stray apostrophe at the end of the 
line
''Scientific Name'': {{!!scientific_name}}'

Also, in case it's useful to anyone else: things didn't initially work when 
I imported into my TW, which brought to my attention that I needed to 
manually delete my earlier version of matabele's "listops" widget because 
it was overriding the ActionListopsWidget (which came in with release 
5.1.10, I think?). I hadn't noticed that before, so thank you! 
cmari

On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 7:40:47 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I needed a quick project and this is going to be useful for other things I 
> want to do, so I made this. I am on my tablet and don't have access to my 
> server so have a dropbox link: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1yhvn1u0d2dgd5/EncyclopediaTemplates.html?dl=0
>
> I am not certain I did the sharing correctly, so let me know if that link 
> doesn't work. 
>
> As a side note, I put together a simple implementation of non-tag fields 
> as tag fields. I am pretty certain that other people have already make 
> working versions of this but now there is another one. It just uses some 
> quick modifications to the existing macros and the action-listops widget.
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

['Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jed,

We can download it allright...but for easy viewing I think it work better 
like this 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/j1yhvn1u0d2dgd5/EncyclopediaTemplates.html


Birthe

On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 4:40:47 PM UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I needed a quick project and this is going to be useful for other things I 
> want to do, so I made this. I am on my tablet and don't have access to my 
> server so have a dropbox link: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1yhvn1u0d2dgd5/EncyclopediaTemplates.html?dl=0
>
> I am not certain I did the sharing correctly, so let me know if that link 
> doesn't work. 
>
> As a side note, I put together a simple implementation of non-tag fields 
> as tag fields. I am pretty certain that other people have already make 
> working versions of this but now there is another one. It just uses some 
> quick modifications to the existing macros and the action-listops widget.
>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Jed Carty]

I needed a quick project and this is going to be useful for other things I 
want to do, so I made this. I am on my tablet and don't have access to my 
server so have a dropbox 
link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j1yhvn1u0d2dgd5/EncyclopediaTemplates.html?dl=0

I am not certain I did the sharing correctly, so let me know if that link 
doesn't work. 

As a side note, I put together a simple implementation of non-tag fields as 
tag fields. I am pretty certain that other people have already make working 
versions of this but now there is another one. It just uses some quick 
modifications to the existing macros and the action-listops widget.

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Re: [tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Alex Hough]

Radium,

It looks like you want to create a temple and a new button



<$button message="tm-new-tiddler" param="Monograph">New Task


Then create the Monograph tiddler with the fields you require. Note: you
can't have spaces in field names

These are the tiddlers to search for on http://tiddlywiki.com/



WidgetMessage: tm-new-tiddler

TemplateTiddlers

Alex

On 22 May 2016 at 11:58, Radium  wrote:

> I'm a power user with an intermediate programming background (Ruby, Xojo,
> Pascal, Delphi),
>
> But still I find TiddlyWiki quite confusing and uber-geeky.
>
> It's because I haven't yet figured the big picture about how it works,
> even after reading the docs.
>
> The docs was very subtle IMO and did not explain the system well.
> Where can I learn more about TW?
>
> It looks and sounds like a truly powerful and suitable personal wiki for
> me.
> I really like to learn it and put it into use.
>
>
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 8:40:16 AM UTC+4:30, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Hi Radium
>>
>> The $action-listops widget is designed to manipulate fields as lists --
>> there are various extended filters designed to work with this widget.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:29:13 UTC+2, Radium wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to make and use a tiddler template named "monograph", which has
>>> predefined fields such as:
>>>
>>>
>>>- scientific name
>>>- common name
>>>- useful parts
>>>- uses
>>>- habitat
>>>- physical description
>>>- chemicals
>>>
>>>
>>> *And most importantly:*
>>>
>>>
>>>- I need to be able to *search* and *sort* plant tiddlers using any
>>>of these fields.
>>>- Some fields (like chemicals and useful parts), might contain
>>>multiple values, and each value needs to be counted as a *separate
>>>entity*, not a stream of values like a sentence.
>>>
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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Radium]

I'm a power user with an intermediate programming background (Ruby, Xojo, 
Pascal, Delphi),

But still I find TiddlyWiki quite confusing and uber-geeky.

It's because I haven't yet figured the big picture about how it works, even 
after reading the docs.

The docs was very subtle IMO and did not explain the system well.
Where can I learn more about TW?

It looks and sounds like a truly powerful and suitable personal wiki for me.
I really like to learn it and put it into use.


On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 8:40:16 AM UTC+4:30, Matabele wrote:
>
> Hi Radium
>
> The $action-listops widget is designed to manipulate fields as lists -- 
> there are various extended filters designed to work with this widget.
>
> regards
>
> On Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:29:13 UTC+2, Radium wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to make and use a tiddler template named "monograph", which has 
>> predefined fields such as:
>>
>>
>>- scientific name
>>- common name
>>- useful parts
>>- uses
>>- habitat
>>- physical description
>>- chemicals
>>
>>
>> *And most importantly:*
>>
>>
>>- I need to be able to *search* and *sort* plant tiddlers using any 
>>of these fields.
>>- Some fields (like chemicals and useful parts), might contain 
>>multiple values, and each value needs to be counted as a *separate 
>>entity*, not a stream of values like a sentence.
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Custom tiddler Templates for Medicinal Plant Monographs

[Matabele]

Hi Radium

The $action-listops widget is designed to manipulate fields as lists -- 
there are various extended filters designed to work with this widget.

regards

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:29:13 UTC+2, Radium wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to make and use a tiddler template named "monograph", which has 
> predefined fields such as:
>
>
>- scientific name
>- common name
>- useful parts
>- uses
>- habitat
>- physical description
>- chemicals
>
>
> *And most importantly:*
>
>
>- I need to be able to *search* and *sort* plant tiddlers using any of 
>these fields.
>- Some fields (like chemicals and useful parts), might contain 
>multiple values, and each value needs to be counted as a *separate 
>entity*, not a stream of values like a sentence.
>
>

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