[tw] Re: Refreshing TreeView...

2009-06-17 Thread Morris Gray

On Jun 16, 7:14 pm, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Morris, with 'not a good deal of success' you mean that a newer
 version of TiddlyWiki might have broken the original MenuMore page
 display in IE? Maybe tabs are the easiest way way to go here, of which
 I have added already 3 ways of doing to my experimental 
 MenuFlex.http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/

 A fourth, maybe visually most appealing option to TWT-treeview, would
 by Yann's TWkd:http://yann.perrin.googlepages.com/twkd.html

Thanks, wolfgang.

I've already had tabs working and they looked pretty good. I've also
looked at Yann's page which is nice.  I don't know how he's getting
the tabs to show-up in the MainMenu area though.  I've inspected his
PageTemplate and even duplicated it but can't get the same results.  I
don't really want to use tabs I think I want to use a link and target.

What would be great is to be able to target the mainMenu area and send
any menu there either from a link, or triggered by loading a tiddler;
or staring at it until it reads your mind and loads what you need in
spite of what you want:-)

But what I'm really after as well is a menu that's in context with a
displayed tiddler. Well pretty much what Skye is doing, or trying to
do.

His is still in progress but I can't figure out how he's achieved what
success he's attained so far:-) Besides I got distracted reading his
content and wanted to go out and save the world :-)

Morris




On Jun 16, 7:14 pm, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Skye

  sorry for the delay...I have put an example of what I mean up here

 http://tinyurl.com/mrxaqt

  you can also see the problem with the refreshing of the items in the
  mainmenus 2 and 3.

 main menu 2 shows two wikify error makros and 3 an treeview2 macro
 error for me - with:
     Erro ao executar a macro treeview2:
     TypeError: store.getTiddler(tagname) has no properties

  Your multi-mainMenus sounds interesting  I tried switchable mainMenus
  with not a good deal of success I wonder if what you've done might be
  of interest to the group.

 Morris, with 'not a good deal of success' you mean that a newer
 version of TiddlyWiki might have broken the original MenuMore page
 display in IE? Maybe tabs are the easiest way way to go here, of which
 I have added already 3 ways of doing to my experimental 
 MenuFlex.http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/

 A fourth, maybe visually most appealing option to TWT-treeview, would
 by Yann's TWkd:http://yann.perrin.googlepages.com/twkd.html

 regards..
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[tw] Re: Refreshing TreeView...

2009-06-17 Thread wolfgang

 looked at Yann's page which is nice.  I don't know how he's getting
 the tabs to show-up in the MainMenu area though.  I've inspected his
 PageTemplate and even duplicated it but can't get the same results.  I
 don't really want to use tabs I think I want to use a link and target.


My idea was to style tabs as links in the top menu, opening target
tiddlers in the main menu/tab content area, as Yann does. Where so
much less is involved as with MenuMore's system. If there wouldn't be
the single difficulty of getting those tabs right. In TWkd the
positioning of the tabs in the top menu is accomplished by using:
#topMenu{
position:absolute;
top:0.2em;
left:0;
...
- and:
#topMenu .txtCurrentMode .tabContents{
position:absolute;
float:left;
left: 0.2em;
etc.:

 What would be great is to be able to target the mainMenu area and send
 any menu there either from a link, or triggered by loading a tiddler;
 or staring at it until it reads your mind and loads what you need in
 spite of what you want:-)


fET - forEachThought - with full transcentental logic.. - an
interesting plugin suggestion...

But thinking about avoiding all this difficulty of having either to
define complex html for each menu in PageTemplate, Menu AND Stylesheet
- as with MenuMore - or such tricky tricks - as of TWkd - I think the
relatively easiest solution could be the use of NestedSlidersPlugin
together with DOMTweaksPlugin and InlineJavascriptPlugin - as this is
almost exemplified with Eric's MainMenuExtras - which does also work
by placing it's link anywhere else, but still would need definitions
in the PageTemplate like this:
div id='mainMenu'
div id='mainMenuStandard' refresh='content' tiddler='MainMenu'/div
div id='mainMenuExtras' refresh='content' tiddler='MainMenuExtras'/
div
...
/div

- plus assigning different DOM id's to the different slided menus, as
it can be seen in this tiddler:
http://change.tiddlyspot.com/

 But what I'm really after as well is a menu that's in context with a
 displayed tiddler. Well pretty much what Skye is doing, or trying to
 do.


Well, if I look at the already existing graphical navigation plugins,
which do this to a full extent - I don't think the time exactly right
yet - since this seems to have to be bought with much performance
decrease.
As non-graphical option - there is already TiddlersBar- or
BreadcrumbsPlugins.

 His is still in progress but I can't figure out how he's achieved what
 success he's attained so far:-)


If I understood Skye right, he would already by satisfied with showing
the context of only a few tiddlers opened from the top menu with
cookies. Mmm..

 Besides I got distracted reading his
 content and wanted to go out and save the world :-)


God thanks, we can only break a TiddlyWiki - or destroy the live
supporting systems of our generations - if we choose to. Don't think
we could do this do the world, or save it instead...

http://www.myfootprint.org/

Regards...
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[tw] Re: Refreshing TreeView...

2009-06-17 Thread wolfgang

  I think the
 relatively easiest solution could be the use of NestedSlidersPlugin
 together with DOMTweaksPlugin and InlineJavascriptPlugin - as this is
 almost exemplified with Eric's MainMenuExtras - which does also work
 by placing it's link anywhere else, but still would need definitions
 in the PageTemplate like this:


Seems the definitions aren't even needed:

http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/  mode  Domed:

However, could only get it there by using transient sliders with
NestedSlidersPlugin.


Eric, is there an inline script for making the menus persisting with
display area clicks?

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[tw] Re: Refreshing TreeView...

2009-06-16 Thread wolfgang

Hi Skye

 sorry for the delay...I have put an example of what I mean up here

 http://tinyurl.com/mrxaqt

 you can also see the problem with the refreshing of the items in the
 mainmenus 2 and 3.

main menu 2 shows two wikify error makros and 3 an treeview2 macro
error for me - with:
Erro ao executar a macro treeview2:
TypeError: store.getTiddler(tagname) has no properties

 Your multi-mainMenus sounds interesting  I tried switchable mainMenus
 with not a good deal of success I wonder if what you've done might be
 of interest to the group.

Morris, with 'not a good deal of success' you mean that a newer
version of TiddlyWiki might have broken the original MenuMore page
display in IE? Maybe tabs are the easiest way way to go here, of which
I have added already 3 ways of doing to my experimental MenuFlex.
http://menuflex.tiddlyspot.com/

A fourth, maybe visually most appealing option to TWT-treeview, would
by Yann's TWkd:
http://yann.perrin.googlepages.com/twkd.html

regards..
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[tw] Re: Refreshing TreeView...

2009-06-15 Thread skye riquelme

As I mentioned in the TW I put up on my serverusing RefreshTiddler
does refresh the mainmenu items...the first time you use itthen
opening another item does not refresh it again

Playing around with itand checking the Tweak paramenters...it
seems that just opening a tiddler with a scriptconfig.options./
script code in it...does not actually activate the changes in the
config.optionsuntil I edit/done the tiddler..this seems
strangewhy doesnt the script code atualise on opening the
tiddler...even using RefreshTiddler does not actually active the
script sequence!!!

Skye

PS (you may have to be username of Skye to see the edit toolbars!)

On 10 jun, 00:04, Morris Gray msg...@symbex.net.au wrote:
 Hi skye,

 Your multi-mainMenus sounds interesting  I tried switchable mainMenus
 with not a good deal of success I wonder if what you've done might be
 of interest to the group.  It might be worthwhile to include it in TWT-
 Treeview documentation in which I am trying to give more options in
 more detail.  I wonder you'd mind sharing the details.

 Morris

 On Jun 10, 10:35 am, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi All

  I am also one of the people who just love the new TreeView
  Plugin...its a great development...It is quickly propagating
  throughout all my TWs...and believe me, I have a whole city of TWs
  living inside my laptop

  AnywayI use a TW that has 4 mainMenus...as a way to conveniently
  organise the desktoptwo of them have TreeView lists...obviously
  different lists. The code there is -
  treeview2 {{config.options.txtBiblio}} filetree 'collapsed: true',
  antisesame: closed, animated: normal, persist: cookie, cookieId:
  myid'  (thats a Bibliografic list)

  In the topmenu...I have a dropdown menu that lists varios
  bibliographieswhen I select something in the list and click a
  tiddler (of that name) which starts with a bit simple code that sets
  config.options.txtBiblio=thislist;...and the TreeView does not
  automatically refresh to the new thislist value...if I hit edit and
  done on the new open tiddler the TreeView is refreshed exactly...

  .. PageTemplate is forcing mainMenu3 (in this case) to refresh... So I
  gather that the problem is that on opening the tiddler that has the
  config.options.txtBiblio code, that code is not being evaluated on
  opening...it seems to be only evaluated after an edit/done
  sequence..I guess that because TreeView is refreshing on a
  Page refresh.but why doesnt ope´ning the tiddler with the code
  have the effect of refreshing ??? - isn´t that a refresh !!!

  I tried TiddlyTools AutoRefresh script but that does not get it
  right...or I guess I didn't get it righthow can I have the
  txtBiblio config parameter refreshed when the tiddler first opens?

  Thanks
  Skye
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[tw] Re: Refreshing TreeView...

2009-06-09 Thread Morris Gray

Something like this was discussed in this thread.  I don't know if it
was ever resolved.

http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/1691bc7346c99f22/dc0eed7e6f3f5c05%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3D%7B%7Bconfig.options

http://tinyurl.com/mtgzol

Morris

On Jun 10, 10:35 am, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All

 I am also one of the people who just love the new TreeView
 Plugin...its a great development...It is quickly propagating
 throughout all my TWs...and believe me, I have a whole city of TWs
 living inside my laptop

 AnywayI use a TW that has 4 mainMenus...as a way to conveniently
 organise the desktoptwo of them have TreeView lists...obviously
 different lists. The code there is -
 treeview2 {{config.options.txtBiblio}} filetree 'collapsed: true',
 antisesame: closed, animated: normal, persist: cookie, cookieId:
 myid'  (thats a Bibliografic list)

 In the topmenu...I have a dropdown menu that lists varios
 bibliographieswhen I select something in the list and click a
 tiddler (of that name) which starts with a bit simple code that sets
 config.options.txtBiblio=thislist;...and the TreeView does not
 automatically refresh to the new thislist value...if I hit edit and
 done on the new open tiddler the TreeView is refreshed exactly...

 .. PageTemplate is forcing mainMenu3 (in this case) to refresh... So I
 gather that the problem is that on opening the tiddler that has the
 config.options.txtBiblio code, that code is not being evaluated on
 opening...it seems to be only evaluated after an edit/done
 sequence..I guess that because TreeView is refreshing on a
 Page refresh.but why doesnt ope´ning the tiddler with the code
 have the effect of refreshing ??? - isn´t that a refresh !!!

 I tried TiddlyTools AutoRefresh script but that does not get it
 right...or I guess I didn't get it righthow can I have the
 txtBiblio config parameter refreshed when the tiddler first opens?

 Thanks
 Skye
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[tw] Re: Refreshing TreeView...

2009-06-09 Thread Morris Gray

Hi skye,

Your multi-mainMenus sounds interesting  I tried switchable mainMenus
with not a good deal of success I wonder if what you've done might be
of interest to the group.  It might be worthwhile to include it in TWT-
Treeview documentation in which I am trying to give more options in
more detail.  I wonder you'd mind sharing the details.

Morris

On Jun 10, 10:35 am, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All

 I am also one of the people who just love the new TreeView
 Plugin...its a great development...It is quickly propagating
 throughout all my TWs...and believe me, I have a whole city of TWs
 living inside my laptop

 AnywayI use a TW that has 4 mainMenus...as a way to conveniently
 organise the desktoptwo of them have TreeView lists...obviously
 different lists. The code there is -
 treeview2 {{config.options.txtBiblio}} filetree 'collapsed: true',
 antisesame: closed, animated: normal, persist: cookie, cookieId:
 myid'  (thats a Bibliografic list)

 In the topmenu...I have a dropdown menu that lists varios
 bibliographieswhen I select something in the list and click a
 tiddler (of that name) which starts with a bit simple code that sets
 config.options.txtBiblio=thislist;...and the TreeView does not
 automatically refresh to the new thislist value...if I hit edit and
 done on the new open tiddler the TreeView is refreshed exactly...

 .. PageTemplate is forcing mainMenu3 (in this case) to refresh... So I
 gather that the problem is that on opening the tiddler that has the
 config.options.txtBiblio code, that code is not being evaluated on
 opening...it seems to be only evaluated after an edit/done
 sequence..I guess that because TreeView is refreshing on a
 Page refresh.but why doesnt ope´ning the tiddler with the code
 have the effect of refreshing ??? - isn´t that a refresh !!!

 I tried TiddlyTools AutoRefresh script but that does not get it
 right...or I guess I didn't get it righthow can I have the
 txtBiblio config parameter refreshed when the tiddler first opens?

 Thanks
 Skye
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