[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-23 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Rick,
 

 When you state ...use *A*, *B*, *C* as tags tagging to *order...*
 Does that mean creating tiddlers titled A, B,and C with the tag 'order 
 and creating a tiddler titled 'order' with tags A, B, and C ?


Nope, it means that you have thre tiddlers A, B and C which you use as tags 
indicating the order of a tiddler and that each of them have at least one 
tag themselves: *order*. Thus you get an implicit tagging tree, e.g.

   - *order*
  - *A*
 - foo
 - bar
  - *B*
 - baz
  - *C*
  - mumble
 - frotz
 - gronk
  
The same with any other tags, be they GTD or whatever...

   - context
  - @call
 - call mum
 - call dad
  - @buy
 - new shoes
 - a guitar
  - @read
 - booklist 2015
 - paper foo
  
So, here again, you have a GTD category called *context* and, atm, three 
category tags tagging to it, e.g. *@call* (call someone), *@buy* (buy 
somethimg) and *@read* (read that)... and then a number of tiddler's that 
have those as tags.

So, when you decide to get some action going, you can take a look at ok, 
what do I need to buy... or, you're in the mood of reading and it's your 
special day and night of the week, so what's left to read?, ah... I see.
 

 Maybe this is obvious to some...but not to me..:)


Don't worry, when it finally sinks in, it sinks in real good.

Here's a macro I recently wrote that helps you show grouped lists, e.g. all 
*task* tiddlers grouped by *order*...

http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com

...for that to work, *xlist* needs to know which tags are order tags... 
or, alternatively, which field is the order field, if you prefer using more 
invisible fields instead.

Best wishes, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-22 Thread RickL
Trying to understand the concept of 'tag tagging'

When you state ...use *A*, *B*, *C* as tags tagging to *order...*
Does that mean creating tiddlers titled A, B,and C with the tag 'order and 
creating a tiddler titled 'order' with tags A, B, and C ?

Maybe this is obvious to some...but not to me..:)

On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 3:54:28 AM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Rick,

 In the sense of GTD, I prefer using prefixes for any GTD related tags,
 e.g. *status* tags would be...

- #reading
- #next
- #someday
- #maybe

 ...all of which would tag themselves to *status*.
 See: http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com (TWc)

 Then you...

- can more easily search for them simply by typing *#*
- more easily spot them in the tag-bar
- easily filter lists by iterating over all *status*-tags 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20tag or those with prefix 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20prefix #

 Personally, I'd also use *A*, *B*, *C* as tags tagging to *order*, rather 
 than fields.
 That shows them at each book and you can click to get to the tiddler 
 *order*,
 which could be an index of all books by order.

 With TW5, you can also assign tag icons.

- using *$:/TagManager* which you find in the tags tab
   - you can assign something like that ✓ icon 
   http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Core%20Images%20And%20Inline%20Stylesheets 
   to each status
   - that way, you quickly spot a status tag
- personally, I would use author names as tags and have them tag to 
*author*
   - so, you could do the same thing with *author*
   - I wish there was a generic person icon though, even though not 
   used by the core

 With the all new xlist http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com you can easily 
 create indexes, e.g.

- all *filter:[all[]] *by *each:order*
- All By Groups @ xlist 
   http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com/#All%20By%20Groups
   - all *filter:[genre[non-fiction]]* by 
*groups:[[status]tagging[]]*
   - (assuming you would start using tags for statuses)
   - Tagging Instead Of List Field @ xlist 
   http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Tagging%20Instead%20Of%20List%20Field
- or using fields: *filter:[genre[non-fiction]]* by *each:read*
   - Match Field — Each Field Value @ xlist 
   
 http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Match%20Field%20%E2%80%94%20Each%20Field%20Value

 Best wishes, Tobias.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Rick,

In the sense of GTD, I prefer using prefixes for any GTD related tags,
e.g. *status* tags would be...

   - #reading
   - #next
   - #someday
   - #maybe

...all of which would tag themselves to *status*.
See: http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com (TWc)

Then you...

   - can more easily search for them simply by typing *#*
   - more easily spot them in the tag-bar
   - easily filter lists by iterating over all *status*-tags 
   http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20tag or those with prefix 
   http://tiddlywiki.com/#FilterOperator%3A%20prefix #

Personally, I'd also use *A*, *B*, *C* as tags tagging to *order*, rather 
than fields.
That shows them at each book and you can click to get to the tiddler *order*
,
which could be an index of all books by order.

With TW5, you can also assign tag icons.

   - using *$:/TagManager* which you find in the tags tab
  - you can assign something like that ✓ icon 
  http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Core%20Images%20And%20Inline%20Stylesheets 
  to each status
  - that way, you quickly spot a status tag
   - personally, I would use author names as tags and have them tag to 
   *author*
  - so, you could do the same thing with *author*
  - I wish there was a generic person icon though, even though not used 
  by the core
   
With the all new xlist http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com you can easily create 
indexes, e.g.

   - all *filter:[all[]] *by *each:order*
   - All By Groups @ xlist http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com/#All%20By%20Groups
  - all *filter:[genre[non-fiction]]* by 
   *groups:[[status]tagging[]]*
  - (assuming you would start using tags for statuses)
  - Tagging Instead Of List Field @ xlist 
  http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Tagging%20Instead%20Of%20List%20Field
   - or using fields: *filter:[genre[non-fiction]]* by *each:read*
  - Match Field — Each Field Value @ xlist 
  
http://xlist.tiddlyspot.com/#Match%20Field%20%E2%80%94%20Each%20Field%20Value
   
Best wishes, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-17 Thread RickL
The new book button simply brings up a tiddler template with predefined 
tags and fields to allow easy entry of a new book to add to my reading list.
The widget you mention is one I have not explored.  There is lots to learn 
here...next I need to review TB's last response below sounds like a 
better way to do things but I have to understand first! :)

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 9:01:53 PM UTC-5, Birthe C wrote:

 Hi RickL,
 It looks great. I wonder how you use your New Book button? If you use 
 ActionSendMessageWidget, you can set the tags and fields you would use for 
 all your books.


 Birthe


 On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 2:30:47 AM UTC+1, RickL wrote:

 check thatI have it working now.Thanks!

 On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:30:05 PM UTC-5, RickL wrote:

 If you say so...but I don't seed how

 On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:20:11 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Seems to work fine...
 with the above example.

 Best wishes, Tobias.



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-17 Thread RickL
Great suggestions!  Some I almost understand, others are like a foreign 
language.  The more I learn here,the more there is to learn.  I will study 
then will have questions, so I hope you are up for it! ;)

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 3:56:17 PM UTC-5, RickL wrote:

 I have a list of books to read. I order the books by: A - read now; B - 
 read next; C - read some day

 Each book is a tiddler, and each tiddler contains a field labeled order 
 with the value A, B, or C.

 I created a list of books in a new tiddler with the $view 
 field=order/ command to get a comprehensive reading list. This works 
 well. I can color the order with the @@color:red; @@ command so the 
 order stands out.

 My question: How can I get the order of the books to be even more evident 
 by coloring the A, B, or C differently. Red for A, Green for B, and Blue 
 for C for example.

 I think this would also be helpful in using TW as a task list.

 Hope this makes sense.


 Thanks

 Rick


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Rick,

Looking at a live example would make it easier to post a solution.

On way may be to use is the RevealWidget 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget...

$reveal type=match text={{!!order}} default=A
@@color:red;{{!!order}}@@
/$reveal
$reveal type=match text={{!!order}} default=B
@@color:purple;{{!!order}}@@
/$reveal
$reveal type=match text={{!!order}} default=C
@@color:grey;{{!!order}}@@
/$reveal

I'd rather like to lookup the color from some configuration tiddler...

title: $:/config/colors/order

A:red
B:purple
C:grey

But so far I failed to construct working output.

Best wishes, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-16 Thread RickL
Try this example ... journalexample.tiddlyspot.com


On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 5:31:40 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Rick,

 Looking at a live example would make it easier to post a solution.

 On way may be to use is the RevealWidget 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget...

 $reveal type=match text={{!!order}} default=A
 @@color:red;{{!!order}}@@
 /$reveal
 $reveal type=match text={{!!order}} default=B
 @@color:purple;{{!!order}}@@
 /$reveal
 $reveal type=match text={{!!order}} default=C
 @@color:grey;{{!!order}}@@
 /$reveal

 I'd rather like to lookup the color from some configuration tiddler...

 title: $:/config/colors/order

 A:red
 B:purple
 C:grey

 But so far I failed to construct working output.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-16 Thread Tobias Beer
Seems to work fine...
with the above example.

Best wishes, Tobias.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-16 Thread RickL
If you say so...but I don't seed how

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:20:11 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Seems to work fine...
 with the above example.

 Best wishes, Tobias.


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-16 Thread RickL
check thatI have it working now.Thanks!

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:30:05 PM UTC-5, RickL wrote:

 If you say so...but I don't seed how

 On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:20:11 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Seems to work fine...
 with the above example.

 Best wishes, Tobias.



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


[tw] Re: TW5 Color of Field Values

2015-01-16 Thread Birthe C
Hi RickL,
It looks great. I wonder how you use your New Book button? If you use 
ActionSendMessageWidget, you can set the tags and fields you would use for 
all your books.


Birthe


On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 2:30:47 AM UTC+1, RickL wrote:

 check thatI have it working now.Thanks!

 On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:30:05 PM UTC-5, RickL wrote:

 If you say so...but I don't seed how

 On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:20:11 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Seems to work fine...
 with the above example.

 Best wishes, Tobias.



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
TiddlyWiki group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.