[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 9:10:32 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> What I wrote is a much simpler version of the toc macros. So using that 
> wouldn't really make it simpler. And the toc macros are set up to do a 
> specific thing and aren't flexible in the way that would let you do what 
> you want. I think it is possible using the macros, but you would need some 
> interesting code and it would be more of an experiment in strange coding 
> than something usable.
>
> So ,now your questions:
>
> !has[parent] in the filter means tiddlers that don't have a parent field 
>
> <> is a variable used by tiddlywiki, you can copy and 
> paste exactly what I posted.
>
> {{ ||...}} is transclusion as a template. It is what let's the toc and 
> other things have an arbitrary number of sub items instead of coding a set 
> number. It is sort of analogous to a function in other languages. 
>
> is[current] refers to the current tiddler, it means use whatever the 
> current tiddler is. 
>
> description is just some field, if you want it called something different 
> it can be changed. 
>
> A field can have whatever name you want. They are name:value pairs. There 
> are some common to all tiddlers but you can add any you want. The ones used 
> by almost all of them are: title, created, modified, text, tags, creator 
> and modifier
>

I created the two tiddlers. I'm trying to get the childTasks to show under 
Task List tiddler, but no go. It all just shows as one bullet list with the 
check boxes. I'm probably not understanding the setup for it. I'm working 
on it.. 

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Jed Carty]

What I wrote is a much simpler version of the toc macros. So using that 
wouldn't really make it simpler. And the toc macros are set up to do a specific 
thing and aren't flexible in the way that would let you do what you want. I 
think it is possible using the macros, but you would need some interesting code 
and it would be more of an experiment in strange coding than something usable.

So ,now your questions:

!has[parent] in the filter means tiddlers that don't have a parent field 

<> is a variable used by tiddlywiki, you can copy and paste 
exactly what I posted.

{{ ||...}} is transclusion as a template. It is what let's the toc and other 
things have an arbitrary number of sub items instead of coding a set number. It 
is sort of analogous to a function in other languages. 

is[current] refers to the current tiddler, it means use whatever the current 
tiddler is. 

description is just some field, if you want it called something different it 
can be changed. 

A field can have whatever name you want. They are name:value pairs. There are 
some common to all tiddlers but you can add any you want. The ones used by 
almost all of them are: title, created, modified, text, tags, creator and 
modifier

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

Jed, this looks way more complicated than I originally imagined. I guess 
then that the toc-selective-expandable micro can't work with a list filter? 
I don't understand the code fully: t

   - The has property, and rather or not "parent" is actually something 
   that is built into the code or is just anything you call it? if so, what 
   does the has[] looks for? I understand tag[].
   - <> means put a name in there, or does TW knows we're 
   talking about the Tiddler this code is in?
   - {{||.}} is this line of code actually defines *another *Tiddler 
   inside this code?
   - is [] property, same question as the has[] what does it do, and does 
   it follow by user's input or is current actually defined? (I assume it's 
   looking for user input)
   - fields: title is self-explanatory, but what is the description? the 
   body of the tiddler?  
   
I have more questions on the child tiddler, but I think these are the same 
basically. It's not that I don't' trust you of course, but I want to 
understand what you're doing. I've been looking in tiddlywiki.com but the 
explanations there trust that I have a certain basic vocabulary that I 
don't. I find that I have patient especially with TW because I love what it 
does, and I enjoy learning it. Hope you don't mind. 

Thank you!  



On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:47:16 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Make two tiddlers. The Task List Tiddler, called whatever you want it to 
> be, and the child tasks template called 'childTasks' with the following 
> code:
>
> Task List tiddler:
>
> 
> <$list filter='[tag[task]!has[parent]]'>
> <$list filter='[is[current]!tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done><$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> <$list filter='[is[current]tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done>~~<$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>~~
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
> Child tasks template:
>
> 
> <$list filter='[tag[task]parent{!!title}]'>
> <$list filter='[is[current]!tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done><$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> <$list filter='[is[current]tag[done]]'>
> 
> <$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done>~~<$view 
> field='description'><$view field='title'/>~~
> {{||childTasks}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Then if a tiddler is tagged with `Task` and doesn't have a parent field it 
> will be listed as a root task, if a tiddler has the tag Task and a parent 
> field it will be listed as a sub-entry of the parent task.
>

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Jed Carty]

Make two tiddlers. The Task List Tiddler, called whatever you want it to 
be, and the child tasks template called 'childTasks' with the following 
code:

Task List tiddler:


<$list filter='[tag[task]!has[parent]]'>
<$list filter='[is[current]!tag[done]]'>

<$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done><$view 
field='description'><$view field='title'/>
{{||childTasks}}


<$list filter='[is[current]tag[done]]'>

<$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done>~~<$view 
field='description'><$view field='title'/>~~
{{||childTasks}}







Child tasks template:


<$list filter='[tag[task]parent{!!title}]'>
<$list filter='[is[current]!tag[done]]'>

<$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done><$view 
field='description'><$view field='title'/>
{{||childTasks}}


<$list filter='[is[current]tag[done]]'>

<$checkbox tiddler=<> tag=done>~~<$view 
field='description'><$view field='title'/>~~
{{||childTasks}}






Then if a tiddler is tagged with `Task` and doesn't have a parent field it 
will be listed as a root task, if a tiddler has the tag Task and a parent 
field it will be listed as a sub-entry of the parent task.

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

Update 20160802.0911

I have an idea. I'm trying to have the toc-expandable property to work with the 
filter list the task management currently works with. The problem is that I 
don't know how to do it, the list filter is a different than the toc 
expandable. 

Anyone has an idea?

Sorry, I'm traveling so I can't edit this post well. Thanks!

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

*Update 10260802:* 
They current way to work with checkboxes and tasks in TW5 has one problem 
with what I want to accomplish. Once a list filter is placed in the code 
(<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]...">) the list presents 
as a unit, and there's no way for me to add text between the checkboxes or 
add an additional list under an item on the "parent" list. I'm restricted 
to one-level simple checklist.

I'm looking into CSS only that  will allow me to change the text-decoration 
of a line preceded by a *checked *checkbox to stirkethrough. If I could 
 define a class of a checkbox and use it this way, perhaps I could bypass 
the above problem. 

Likewise, if you guys see a simpler solution to my problem, let me know! 
 Thanks in advance. 



On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
> someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
> need. 
>
>
>
>- I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. When 
>checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as strike-through. 
>- Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in the 
>past, it seemed to have reset). 
>- I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
>"parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
>- I want to be able to include a short description under each checkbox 
>item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a simple matter 
> of 
>just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to look like. 
>
> This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
> checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
> create something like this?
>
> *** Edit
>
> I checked TaskManagementExample 
>  and I see TW5 has a very, 
> very close solution to what I want. The problem here is that I have to 
> created tiddler for each task. This is becoming a problem if I just want a 
> simple rundown of my project in one place... I will need to have my 
> sub-tasks nested with the main project, and that's becoming more 
> complicated because I will need to have them tagged three times at the end: 
> as task, as done, and then as the parent tag. 
>
> Does anyone uses TW for project management and can share a sample with me? 
>
>

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Jed Carty]

The way tiddlywiki is designed having one tiddler per task (or sub-task) is 
the way to do it. The way to go would be to make some sort of input form 
that you use to add a task and that and the checkboxes themselves would 
take care of the tagging for you. I am about to go to bed, I will see about 
making a small demo in the morning.

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

I went over this after some time I forgot about this problem. I don't 
understand how to use the solutions posted at this point; they are too 
specific and I feel I need more step by step procedure. I'm continuing 
research. 

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:48:33 PM UTC-4, c pa wrote:
>
> Try this: create the following tiddlers. Using this you store the task 
> status as a tag in one tiddler (taskmanager)
>
> title: "taskme"
> text: <$checkbox tiddler="taskmanager" tag=<> > 
> {{!!title}}
>
> title: mytasks
> text: 
> * {{What am I doing?||taskme}}
> * {{I have some time||taskme}}
>

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

['c pa' via TiddlyWiki]

Try this: create the following tiddlers. Using this you store the task 
status as a tag in one tiddler (taskmanager)

title: "taskme"
text: <$checkbox tiddler="taskmanager" tag=<> > 
{{!!title}}

title: mytasks
text: 
* {{What am I doing?||taskme}}
* {{I have some time||taskme}}

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[BJ]

HI Shay,
you could use fields (of the current tiddler) instead of tags:

<$checkbox field="status0" checked="closed" unchecked="open" 
default="open">task0

I use tiddlyclip to automate  the process of created new numbers - it 
increment a field called 'new' that is used to automatically create the 
'status0' 'status1' for the checkboxes. however there is a new edit tool 
bar in the prerelease, (I have not tried it) that maybe setup to have a 
button to insert a new checkbox in a similar way tiddlyclip does.

all the best
BJ
 
On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 1:30:51 AM UTC+1, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> haha I just posted about this. I just finished reading through it and got 
> the idea of kind of how it works :D
>
> On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-4, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shay,
>>
>> Have you had a look at the TaskManagementExample 
>> ?
>>
>> Hegart.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 18 April 2016 11:46:07 UTC+12, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
>>> someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
>>> need. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. 
>>>When checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as 
>>> strike-through. 
>>>- Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in 
>>>the past, it seemed to have reset). 
>>>- I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
>>>"parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
>>>- I want to be able to include a short description under each 
>>>checkbox item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a 
>>> simple 
>>>matter of just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to 
>>>look like. 
>>>
>>> This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
>>> checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
>>> create something like this?
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Hi Shay,

Not sure if this  is of any help, and 
it does rely on a plugin, but it looks really simple to implement. Perhaps 
even a bit lightweight for what you need?

Hegart.


On Monday, 18 April 2016 12:30:51 UTC+12, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> haha I just posted about this. I just finished reading through it and got 
> the idea of kind of how it works :D
>
> On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-4, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shay,
>>
>> Have you had a look at the TaskManagementExample 
>> ?
>>
>> Hegart.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 18 April 2016 11:46:07 UTC+12, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
>>> someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
>>> need. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. 
>>>When checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as 
>>> strike-through. 
>>>- Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in 
>>>the past, it seemed to have reset). 
>>>- I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
>>>"parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
>>>- I want to be able to include a short description under each 
>>>checkbox item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a 
>>> simple 
>>>matter of just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to 
>>>look like. 
>>>
>>> This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
>>> checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
>>> create something like this?
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Shay Shaked]

haha I just posted about this. I just finished reading through it and got 
the idea of kind of how it works :D

On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-4, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Hi Shay,
>
> Have you had a look at the TaskManagementExample 
> ?
>
> Hegart.
>
>
> On Monday, 18 April 2016 11:46:07 UTC+12, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
>> someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
>> need. 
>>
>>
>>
>>- I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. When 
>>checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as strike-through. 
>>- Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in 
>>the past, it seemed to have reset). 
>>- I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
>>"parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
>>- I want to be able to include a short description under each 
>>checkbox item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a 
>> simple 
>>matter of just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to 
>>look like. 
>>
>> This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
>> checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
>> create something like this?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Using TW5 for project management - nested lists of checkboxes with strikethrough

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Hi Shay,

Have you had a look at the TaskManagementExample 
?

Hegart.


On Monday, 18 April 2016 11:46:07 UTC+12, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> If possible, I would like to learn how to do this without installing 
> someone's plug in, because I'm curious to see how it works. Here is what I 
> need. 
>
>
>
>- I want to create a simple checkbox list, with short sentences. When 
>checked, the sentence next to the box will be shown as strike-through. 
>- Next time I open TW, I want TW to remember the checked items (in the 
>past, it seemed to have reset). 
>- I want to have the option to include nested checkboxes under the 
>"parent" one, which will show indented - very similar to other list. 
>- I want to be able to include a short description under each checkbox 
>item (a sentence). I don't think this is a problem, it's a simple matter 
> of 
>just typing under the line of whatever syntax this is going to look like. 
>
> This is the start. I looking through here and there's info about 
> checkboxes, but not exactly what I'm looking for. How complicated is it to 
> create something like this?
>

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