Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?

2015-05-27 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
I have to say that I also love the idea of writting several tiddlers at 
once. The same for fields, and tags.
That combined with my keyboard snippets plugin could increase my 
productivity in an awesome way!

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Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?

2015-05-27 Thread Mat


 Are you suggesting a mode in which tiddler metadata can be included in a 
 special format in the main tiddler text area? I quite like that idea.


+1 
This would be perfect for faster workflow and note taking - IF the decided 
upon special format is designed with speed and simplicity in mind.

 

 The approach I prefer is where the content of the text box is transformed 
 on entry into the individual fields (that means that re-editing a tiddler 
 the special metadata markup would have been removed). 


What would be the advantage with removal? I'm not against it, just trying 
to understand pros and cons.


Perhaps if the text box started with a period . then the special 
 processing would be triggered.


Personally, I would prefer to specify the commands on a more immediate 
need basis. Marking it out at beginning of tiddler means you either must 
know it when starting or you must jump up there again, put the mark and go 
down again.

...and if the parser can recognize this initial dot and the following 
dispersed markup commands, why can it not simply skip the initial dot step?

 

 We could use the same technique to split long tiddlers, something like 
 this:

 * Given a long tiddler that needs to be split
 * Edit it
 * Add a . at the top
 * Insert the string - TiddlerTitle at each tiddler split point


I (VERY much) like the idea to mark out splits for transclusion, but the 
user should not be forced to invent titles. I propose that if no title is 
inserted, then the current title is reused but with a number after (just 
like New Tiddler 1, New Tiddler 2 etc). 

Is there a standard notation symbol for split or alike, that can be 
reused here? What do pro editors use? - is OK I guess 

Or how about taking advantage of the standard heading markup; !, !! and 
!!!. These would probably often pretty natural places to split. For this 
case, an initial indicating command (e.g the dot) would make sense) OR 
there is a notation that takes advantage of the established !, such as 
perhaps ! !! etc. This would also make it easy to add splitout to an 
already existing document that uses regular headers.

Further, IMO there should be an (optional) end splitout here mark. If 
there is no such, then it continues until either the next (begin) splitout 
mark or to the end of the tiddler.

End splitout could perhaps be ! or !.(...which, btw, would open up 
for nested super splitting by adding the  to the different header 
levels in a document. One long document that has headings that include 
subheadings woudl split out first the top level and then traverse down in 
each new tiddler to split out sublevels. All in the name of tiddler 
philosophy! ;-) Seriously, don't let this last bit discourage anyone. It is 
something that could be implemented later.

It is also worth considering if, on split, it should be possible to add 
metadata?

:-)

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Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?

2015-05-27 Thread Mat


 How would the syntax for a 'value pair' look like? Sth like: 
 .fieldname:value? 


The point aside (see my post above), this makes sense. Specifically then, 
perhaps tag:value on a single line (and perhaps followed by a blank line?). 
The bit about on a single line (and perhaps followed by a blank line?) 
would also enable for multiple tags, i.e simply tag:value1 value 2 value3 
...


BTW, mGTD/mGSD 
http://mgsd.tiddlyspot.com/demo3.html#%5B%5BAbout%20Quick%20Add%5D%5D has 
the quick add » feature (look at top menu, in center). The link I provide 
is a permalink to the instructions for this quick add feature. Basically it 
is a notation to create multiple tiddlers, with tags, in one go. Very 
powerful.


:-)

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Re: [tw] Wikitext for tags?

2015-05-27 Thread Måns
Hi @Alex  @Jeremy

Are you suggesting a mode in which tiddler metadata can be included in a 
 special format in the main tiddler text area? I quite like that idea.

+1 

The approach I prefer is where the content of the text box is transformed 
 on entry into the individual fields (that means that re-editing a tiddler 
 the special metadata markup would have been removed). Perhaps if the text 
 box started with a period . then the special processing would be 
 triggered.


How would the syntax for a 'value pair' look like? Sth like: 
.fieldname:value? 
 

 We could use the same technique to split long tiddlers, something like 
 this:

 * Given a long tiddler that needs to be split
 * Edit it
 * Add a . at the top
 * Insert the string - TiddlerTitle at each tiddler split point

 Then, on entry, the tiddler would be split into the indicated individual 
 tiddlers, and the original tiddler would get a sequence of transclusions to 
 include the individual tiddlers.


+1 Nice idea :-)

@Eric made a SplitTiddler html form http://tiddlytools.com/#SplitTiddler for 
TWC which would let you decide what to do after the split function had been 
run. If some of this could be options then you might even be able to decide 
to create a filtered list of sub tiddlers from the newly created 
tiddlers  - based on tags, titles, fields or what ever :-)

I really like the idea of being able to add fields (and tags) or create new 
tiddlers as you write wiki text in a tiddler.
Please keep on developing on that idea :-)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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