Re: [tw5] Debugging TiddlyWiki crashes

2021-02-19 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Lisa,

As a first step towards addressing this I've made a first prerelease of v0.0.15 
of TiddlyDesktop which just includes an update to the newest version of nwjs 
(v0.51.1), and no other functional changes:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.15-prerelease.1

I'd be grateful if you're able to test it.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 30 Jan 2021, at 18:54, Lisa Rowell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Unfortunately I think I made the upgrade to 11.1 right about the time I 
> upgraded TD, so I'm not sure where the instability worked its way in. 
> Previous to that, TD was incredibly solid.
> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 6:53:17 AM UTC-8 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> Thank you that’s helpful. It’s only happened to me since upgrading to the 
> latest macOS 11.1 update, which seems to be causing similar problems for 
> other apps, which certainly drives my suspicions,
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
>> On 29 Jan 2021, at 14:44, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
> 
>> For what it's worth, which isn't much I know, I've been using TD 14 on 
>> Windows and Linux for the last 2 weeks or so. It's been very stable. This 
>> suggests that the problem may be with some particular Mac component of node, 
>> rather than the actual node version.
>> 
>> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 4:09:24 AM UTC-8 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Lisa
>> 
>>> I've been getting regular crashes of TiddlyDesktop 0.14 under MacOS 11.1 
>>> and I'm wondering what information I can gather up to better report the 
>>> issue. I don't get any kind of popup, the app just suddenly disappears. It 
>>> doesn't appear to be tied to any particular action, having crashed during 
>>> edits, or just scrolling around reading.
>> 
>> Exactly the same thing happened to me while editing a tiddler this week, 
>> also with v0.0.14 and macOS 11.1. Unnerving stuff as I’ve never previously 
>> seen a crash like that.
>> 
>>> I've found the following in /var/log/system.log, but I'm not sure where 
>>> else to look.Jan 28 19:05:08 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
>>> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[46836]): Service exited 
>>> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[46836]
>> 
>> “SIGSEGV” is a fairly generic error that can’t normally be generated by 
>> JavaScript code, it must be some component of nwjs that is failing.
>> 
>> I intend to update TiddlyDesktop to the latest version of nwjs soon which 
>> may ameliorate things. In these cases it would be useful to be able to 
>> periodically force an autosave while editing a draft, which I’ll have a look 
>> at too.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy.
>> 
>> 
>>> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
>>> app [37822]
>>> 
>>> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
>>> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[47535]): Service exited 
>>> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[47535]
>>> 
>>> Jan 28 19:05:27 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
>>> app [37822]
>>> 
>>> Often after a crash I'll go to restart and that will fail, I suspect the 
>>> later lines are that happening.
>>> 
>>> My wiki is based off of TW 5.1.22 and has 5,700 riddles. I keep documents 
>>> and images in external files, so my wiki is not large at 8 MB with 11 GB of 
>>> files.
>>> 
>>> Any push in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Lisa.
>>> 
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Re: [tw5] Debugging TiddlyWiki crashes

2021-01-30 Thread Lisa Rowell 

Unfortunately I think I made the upgrade to 11.1 right about the time I 
upgraded TD, so I'm not sure where the instability worked its way in. 
Previous to that, TD was incredibly solid.
On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 6:53:17 AM UTC-8 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> Thank you that’s helpful. It’s only happened to me since upgrading to the 
> latest macOS 11.1 update, which seems to be causing similar problems for 
> other apps, which certainly drives my suspicions,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 29 Jan 2021, at 14:44, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, which isn't much I know, I've been using TD 14 on 
> Windows and Linux for the last 2 weeks or so. It's been very stable. This 
> suggests that the problem may be with some particular Mac component of 
> node, rather than the actual node version.
>
> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 4:09:24 AM UTC-8 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Lisa
>>
>> I've been getting regular crashes of TiddlyDesktop 0.14 under MacOS 11.1 
>> and I'm wondering what information I can gather up to better report the 
>> issue. I don't get any kind of popup, the app just suddenly disappears. It 
>> doesn't appear to be tied to any particular action, having crashed during 
>> edits, or just scrolling around reading.
>>
>>
>> Exactly the same thing happened to me while editing a tiddler this week, 
>> also with v0.0.14 and macOS 11.1. Unnerving stuff as I’ve never previously 
>> seen a crash like that.
>>
>> I've found the following in /var/log/system.log, but I'm not sure where 
>> else to look.Jan 28 19:05:08 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
>> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[46836]): Service exited 
>> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[46836]
>>
>>
>> “SIGSEGV” is a fairly generic error that can’t normally be generated by 
>> JavaScript code, it must be some component of nwjs that is failing.
>>
>> I intend to update TiddlyDesktop to the latest version of nwjs soon which 
>> may ameliorate things. In these cases it would be useful to be able to 
>> periodically force an autosave while editing a draft, which I’ll have a 
>> look at too.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
>> app [37822]
>>
>> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
>> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[47535]): Service exited 
>> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[47535]
>>
>> Jan 28 19:05:27 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
>> app [37822]
>> Often after a crash I'll go to restart and that will fail, I suspect the 
>> later lines are that happening.
>>
>> My wiki is based off of TW 5.1.22 and has 5,700 riddles. I keep documents 
>> and images in external files, so my wiki is not large at 8 MB with 11 GB of 
>> files.
>>
>> Any push in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>> Lisa.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Debugging TiddlyWiki crashes

2021-01-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Mark

Thank you that’s helpful. It’s only happened to me since upgrading to the 
latest macOS 11.1 update, which seems to be causing similar problems for other 
apps, which certainly drives my suspicions,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 29 Jan 2021, at 14:44, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> For what it's worth, which isn't much I know, I've been using TD 14 on 
> Windows and Linux for the last 2 weeks or so. It's been very stable. This 
> suggests that the problem may be with some particular Mac component of node, 
> rather than the actual node version.
> 
> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 4:09:24 AM UTC-8 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> Hi Lisa
> 
>> I've been getting regular crashes of TiddlyDesktop 0.14 under MacOS 11.1 and 
>> I'm wondering what information I can gather up to better report the issue. I 
>> don't get any kind of popup, the app just suddenly disappears. It doesn't 
>> appear to be tied to any particular action, having crashed during edits, or 
>> just scrolling around reading.
> 
> Exactly the same thing happened to me while editing a tiddler this week, also 
> with v0.0.14 and macOS 11.1. Unnerving stuff as I’ve never previously seen a 
> crash like that.
> 
>> I've found the following in /var/log/system.log, but I'm not sure where else 
>> to look.Jan 28 19:05:08 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
>> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[46836]): Service exited 
>> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[46836]
> 
> “SIGSEGV” is a fairly generic error that can’t normally be generated by 
> JavaScript code, it must be some component of nwjs that is failing.
> 
> I intend to update TiddlyDesktop to the latest version of nwjs soon which may 
> ameliorate things. In these cases it would be useful to be able to 
> periodically force an autosave while editing a draft, which I’ll have a look 
> at too.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
>> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
>> app [37822]
>> 
>> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
>> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[47535]): Service exited 
>> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[47535]
>> 
>> Jan 28 19:05:27 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
>> app [37822]
>> 
>> Often after a crash I'll go to restart and that will fail, I suspect the 
>> later lines are that happening.
>> 
>> My wiki is based off of TW 5.1.22 and has 5,700 riddles. I keep documents 
>> and images in external files, so my wiki is not large at 8 MB with 11 GB of 
>> files.
>> 
>> Any push in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks.
>> 
>> Lisa.
>> 
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Re: [tw5] Debugging TiddlyWiki crashes

2021-01-29 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
For what it's worth, which isn't much I know, I've been using TD 14 on 
Windows and Linux for the last 2 weeks or so. It's been very stable. This 
suggests that the problem may be with some particular Mac component of 
node, rather than the actual node version.

On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 4:09:24 AM UTC-8 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Lisa
>
> I've been getting regular crashes of TiddlyDesktop 0.14 under MacOS 11.1 
> and I'm wondering what information I can gather up to better report the 
> issue. I don't get any kind of popup, the app just suddenly disappears. It 
> doesn't appear to be tied to any particular action, having crashed during 
> edits, or just scrolling around reading.
>
>
> Exactly the same thing happened to me while editing a tiddler this week, 
> also with v0.0.14 and macOS 11.1. Unnerving stuff as I’ve never previously 
> seen a crash like that.
>
> I've found the following in /var/log/system.log, but I'm not sure where 
> else to look.Jan 28 19:05:08 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[46836]): Service exited 
> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[46836]
>
>
> “SIGSEGV” is a fairly generic error that can’t normally be generated by 
> JavaScript code, it must be some component of nwjs that is failing.
>
> I intend to update TiddlyDesktop to the latest version of nwjs soon which 
> may ameliorate things. In these cases it would be useful to be able to 
> periodically force an autosave while editing a draft, which I’ll have a 
> look at too.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
> app [37822]
>
> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[47535]): Service exited 
> due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[47535]
>
> Jan 28 19:05:27 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
> app [37822]
> Often after a crash I'll go to restart and that will fail, I suspect the 
> later lines are that happening.
>
> My wiki is based off of TW 5.1.22 and has 5,700 riddles. I keep documents 
> and images in external files, so my wiki is not large at 8 MB with 11 GB of 
> files.
>
> Any push in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Lisa.
>
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Re: [tw5] Debugging TiddlyWiki crashes

2021-01-29 Thread Jeremy Ruston 
Hi Lisa

> I've been getting regular crashes of TiddlyDesktop 0.14 under MacOS 11.1 and 
> I'm wondering what information I can gather up to better report the issue. I 
> don't get any kind of popup, the app just suddenly disappears. It doesn't 
> appear to be tied to any particular action, having crashed during edits, or 
> just scrolling around reading.

Exactly the same thing happened to me while editing a tiddler this week, also 
with v0.0.14 and macOS 11.1. Unnerving stuff as I’ve never previously seen a 
crash like that.

> I've found the following in /var/log/system.log, but I'm not sure where else 
> to look.Jan 28 19:05:08 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[46836]): Service exited due 
> to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[46836]

“SIGSEGV” is a fairly generic error that can’t normally be generated by 
JavaScript code, it must be some component of nwjs that is failing.

I intend to update TiddlyDesktop to the latest version of nwjs soon which may 
ameliorate things. In these cases it would be useful to be able to periodically 
force an autosave while editing a draft, which I’ll have a look at too.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
> app [37822]
> 
> Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
> (application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[47535]): Service exited due 
> to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[47535]
> 
> Jan 28 19:05:27 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
> app [37822]
> 
> Often after a crash I'll go to restart and that will fail, I suspect the 
> later lines are that happening.
> 
> My wiki is based off of TW 5.1.22 and has 5,700 riddles. I keep documents and 
> images in external files, so my wiki is not large at 8 MB with 11 GB of files.
> 
> Any push in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks.
> 
> Lisa.
> 
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[tw5] Debugging TiddlyWiki crashes

2021-01-28 Thread Lisa Rowell 
I've been getting regular crashes of TiddlyDesktop 0.14 under MacOS 11.1 
and I'm wondering what information I can gather up to better report the 
issue. I don't get any kind of popup, the app just suddenly disappears. It 
doesn't appear to be tied to any particular action, having crashed during 
edits, or just scrolling around reading.

I've found the following in /var/log/system.log, but I'm not sure where 
else to look.Jan 28 19:05:08 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
(application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[46836]): Service exited 
due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[46836]

Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
app [37822]

Jan 28 19:05:11 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] 
(application.com.tiddlywiki.8617894281.8617894284[47535]): Service exited 
due to SIGSEGV | sent by exc handler[47535]

Jan 28 19:05:27 Lisas-MBP com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: Coalition Cache Hit: 
app [37822]
Often after a crash I'll go to restart and that will fail, I suspect the 
later lines are that happening.

My wiki is based off of TW 5.1.22 and has 5,700 riddles. I keep documents 
and images in external files, so my wiki is not large at 8 MB with 11 GB of 
files.

Any push in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks.

Lisa.

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