Re: [tw5] Re: How to install TiddlyTools plugins in my single-file, offline TW?

2020-11-26 Thread teo...@gmail.com 
Hi Tones,

Thanks for the overview on the keyboard access question.
I'll check those out and search for possibly existing solutions when 
thinking of my use cases.

Teo

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:36:28 AM UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> Teo,
>
> A lot of people have demanded keyboard access for a long time and many 
> options and solutions exist within tiddlywiki, the prelease has some update 
> that will make this easier in future however in the mean time you could 
> look at some existing solutions such as 
> https://souk21.github.io/TW-commandpalette/ to name but one. TiddlyWiki 
> has a keyboard shortcuts solution built in, the editor may trap keystrokes 
> differently and some have introduced shortcuts to their own 
> solutions/plugins. 
>
> The pre-release now has a comprehensive way to also trap modifier keys 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#modifier%20Variable
>
> Tones
> On Saturday, 21 November 2020 at 22:00:13 UTC+11 teo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ah, so the plugins couldn't be dragged into TW5 because they're meant for 
>> TWC, and besides many of them are already kind of built in.
>>
>> I wonder if there exists a way to navigate TW5 more through the keyboard?
>>
>> I know you can use arrow keys + enter to open Tiddlers from a drop-down 
>> list, but can you also initiate a search to open such a drop-down list, and 
>> maybe jump back & forth (or cycle) between open Tiddlers, using only the 
>> keyboard?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Teo
>>
>> su 15. marrask. 2020 klo 13.47 Eric Shulman (elsd...@gmail.com) 
>> kirjoitti:
>>
>>> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 1:51:06 AM UTC-8 teo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I'm most interested in adding to my wiki the TiddlyTools.com plugins 
 that help with tagging and navigation, so probably at least the 
 TiddlerTweakerPlugin and most or all of the NavigationPackage plugins.

>>>
>>> http://TiddlyTools.com is for TiddlyWiki Classic, and cannot be used 
>>> with TiddlyWiki5.
>>>
>>> With regard to the NavigationPackage, some of the features of those 
>>> plugins can now be done directly with TiddlyWiki 5, though with some 
>>> differences in functionality:
>>>
>>> BreadcrumbsPlugin = Sidebar>open
>>> RearrangeTiddlersPlugin = drag-and-drop titles in Sidebar>open
>>> CollapseTiddlersPlugin = more>fold/unfold command in Tiddler Toolbar
>>> SinglePageModePlugin = $:/ControlPanel, Appearance>Story View tab, 
>>> "zoomin" option
>>>
>>> In addition, I've re-written some of the NavigationPackage plugins for 
>>> TiddlyWiki5... with some differences in functionality:
>>>
>>> GotoPlugin
>>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto - button with 
>>> popup panel
>>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto.svg - image for 
>>> button
>>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FPanel - popup 
>>> panel controls
>>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FOptions - 
>>> popup with options
>>>
>>> TagCloudPlugin
>>>
>>> http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html#TiddlyTools%2FFilterGenerators%2FTagCloud
>>>
>>> Some of the remaining NavigationPackage plugins *could* be re-written 
>>> for TiddlyWiki5, if there is sufficient interest... just ask, and I will 
>>> consider it.
>>>
>>> -e
>>> Eric Shulman
>>> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
>>> InsideTiddlyWiki - http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: How to install TiddlyTools plugins in my single-file, offline TW?

2020-11-23 Thread TW Tones 
Teo,

A lot of people have demanded keyboard access for a long time and many 
options and solutions exist within tiddlywiki, the prelease has some update 
that will make this easier in future however in the mean time you could 
look at some existing solutions such 
as https://souk21.github.io/TW-commandpalette/ to name but one. TiddlyWiki 
has a keyboard shortcuts solution built in, the editor may trap keystrokes 
differently and some have introduced shortcuts to their own 
solutions/plugins. 

The pre-release now has a comprehensive way to also trap modifier 
keys https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#modifier%20Variable

Tones
On Saturday, 21 November 2020 at 22:00:13 UTC+11 teo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ah, so the plugins couldn't be dragged into TW5 because they're meant for 
> TWC, and besides many of them are already kind of built in.
>
> I wonder if there exists a way to navigate TW5 more through the keyboard?
>
> I know you can use arrow keys + enter to open Tiddlers from a drop-down 
> list, but can you also initiate a search to open such a drop-down list, and 
> maybe jump back & forth (or cycle) between open Tiddlers, using only the 
> keyboard?
>
> Best regards,
> Teo
>
> su 15. marrask. 2020 klo 13.47 Eric Shulman (elsd...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:
>
>> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 1:51:06 AM UTC-8 teo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm most interested in adding to my wiki the TiddlyTools.com plugins 
>>> that help with tagging and navigation, so probably at least the 
>>> TiddlerTweakerPlugin and most or all of the NavigationPackage plugins.
>>>
>>
>> http://TiddlyTools.com is for TiddlyWiki Classic, and cannot be used 
>> with TiddlyWiki5.
>>
>> With regard to the NavigationPackage, some of the features of those 
>> plugins can now be done directly with TiddlyWiki 5, though with some 
>> differences in functionality:
>>
>> BreadcrumbsPlugin = Sidebar>open
>> RearrangeTiddlersPlugin = drag-and-drop titles in Sidebar>open
>> CollapseTiddlersPlugin = more>fold/unfold command in Tiddler Toolbar
>> SinglePageModePlugin = $:/ControlPanel, Appearance>Story View tab, 
>> "zoomin" option
>>
>> In addition, I've re-written some of the NavigationPackage plugins for 
>> TiddlyWiki5... with some differences in functionality:
>>
>> GotoPlugin
>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto - button with 
>> popup panel
>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto.svg - image for 
>> button
>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FPanel - popup 
>> panel controls
>>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FOptions - popup 
>> with options
>>
>> TagCloudPlugin
>>
>> http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html#TiddlyTools%2FFilterGenerators%2FTagCloud
>>
>> Some of the remaining NavigationPackage plugins *could* be re-written for 
>> TiddlyWiki5, if there is sufficient interest... just ask, and I will 
>> consider it.
>>
>> -e
>> Eric Shulman
>> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
>> InsideTiddlyWiki - http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW
>>
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>> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: How to install TiddlyTools plugins in my single-file, offline TW?

2020-11-21 Thread Teo Piitulainen 
Ah, so the plugins couldn't be dragged into TW5 because they're meant for
TWC, and besides many of them are already kind of built in.

I wonder if there exists a way to navigate TW5 more through the keyboard?

I know you can use arrow keys + enter to open Tiddlers from a drop-down
list, but can you also initiate a search to open such a drop-down list, and
maybe jump back & forth (or cycle) between open Tiddlers, using only the
keyboard?

Best regards,
Teo

su 15. marrask. 2020 klo 13.47 Eric Shulman (elsdes...@gmail.com) kirjoitti:

> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 1:51:06 AM UTC-8 teo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm most interested in adding to my wiki the TiddlyTools.com plugins
>> that help with tagging and navigation, so probably at least the
>> TiddlerTweakerPlugin and most or all of the NavigationPackage plugins.
>>
>
> http://TiddlyTools.com is for TiddlyWiki Classic, and cannot be used with
> TiddlyWiki5.
>
> With regard to the NavigationPackage, some of the features of those
> plugins can now be done directly with TiddlyWiki 5, though with some
> differences in functionality:
>
> BreadcrumbsPlugin = Sidebar>open
> RearrangeTiddlersPlugin = drag-and-drop titles in Sidebar>open
> CollapseTiddlersPlugin = more>fold/unfold command in Tiddler Toolbar
> SinglePageModePlugin = $:/ControlPanel, Appearance>Story View tab,
> "zoomin" option
>
> In addition, I've re-written some of the NavigationPackage plugins for
> TiddlyWiki5... with some differences in functionality:
>
> GotoPlugin
>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto - button with
> popup panel
>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto.svg - image for
> button
>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FPanel - popup
> panel controls
>http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FOptions - popup
> with options
>
> TagCloudPlugin
>
> http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html#TiddlyTools%2FFilterGenerators%2FTagCloud
>
> Some of the remaining NavigationPackage plugins *could* be re-written for
> TiddlyWiki5, if there is sufficient interest... just ask, and I will
> consider it.
>
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
> InsideTiddlyWiki - http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW
>
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[tw5] Re: How to install TiddlyTools plugins in my single-file, offline TW?

2020-11-15 Thread Eric Shulman 
On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 1:51:06 AM UTC-8 teo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm most interested in adding to my wiki the TiddlyTools.com plugins that 
> help with tagging and navigation, so probably at least the 
> TiddlerTweakerPlugin and most or all of the NavigationPackage plugins.
>

http://TiddlyTools.com is for TiddlyWiki Classic, and cannot be used with 
TiddlyWiki5.

With regard to the NavigationPackage, some of the features of those plugins 
can now be done directly with TiddlyWiki 5, though with some differences in 
functionality:

BreadcrumbsPlugin = Sidebar>open
RearrangeTiddlersPlugin = drag-and-drop titles in Sidebar>open
CollapseTiddlersPlugin = more>fold/unfold command in Tiddler Toolbar
SinglePageModePlugin = $:/ControlPanel, Appearance>Story View tab, "zoomin" 
option

In addition, I've re-written some of the NavigationPackage plugins for 
TiddlyWiki5... with some differences in functionality:

GotoPlugin
   http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto - button with popup 
panel
   http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto.svg - image for 
button
   http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FPanel - popup 
panel controls
   http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#TiddlyTools%2FGoto%2FOptions - popup 
with options

TagCloudPlugin
  
 
http://tiddlytools.com/filtergenerators.html#TiddlyTools%2FFilterGenerators%2FTagCloud

Some of the remaining NavigationPackage plugins *could* be re-written for 
TiddlyWiki5, if there is sufficient interest... just ask, and I will 
consider it.

-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
InsideTiddlyWiki - http://TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW

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