Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you Si,

No problem! your feedback is much appreciated!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 8:06 PM Si  wrote:

> Hi Mohammed,
>
> Sorry I didn't see this original reply so I only responded to your second
> comment!
>
> >>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
> >>> I think these are:
> >>> - two column story river
> >>> - colorful tabs
> >>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>
> Yes I personally think that this would be better. The original Shiraz for
> "Macros for creating stylish content in TiddlyWiki", and a new plugin for
> "Theme tweaks" (e.g. light/dark mode, colorful sidebar tabs etc). I think
> that narrower categorisation will make it easier for new users to grasp how
> they can apply these tools.
>
> That's just my opinion - I will continue to use Shiraz regardless, and I
> appreciate the work you have put in to all your plugins!
>
> On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:34:43 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Si,
>>  Many thanks for your comments!
>> Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
>> Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release!
>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
>> I think these are:
>> - two column story river
>> - colorful tabs
>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>>
>>
>>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and
>>> useful, however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like
>>> they should belong in a separate plugin.
>>>
>>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
>>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>>
>>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
>>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
>>> far from your description of Shiraz:
>>>
>>> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
>>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
>>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
>>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
>>> not to install them.
>>>
>>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
>>> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic
>>> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin
>>> that I am not seeing?
>>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

 Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
 create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
 like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
 texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.

 Code and demo

- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

 *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
 Revision 2.3.0


- Date: [10th May 2021]
- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro



 If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Si]

 Hi Mohammad,

Sorry I didn't see this original reply so I only responded to your second 
comment!

>>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
>>> I think these are:
>>> - two column story river
>>> - colorful tabs
>>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover

Yes I personally think that this would be better. The original Shiraz for 
"Macros for creating stylish content in TiddlyWiki", and a new plugin for 
"Theme tweaks" (e.g. light/dark mode, colorful sidebar tabs etc). I think 
that narrower categorisation will make it easier for new users to grasp how 
they can apply these tools.

That's just my opinion - I will continue to use Shiraz regardless, and I 
appreciate the work you have put in to all your plugins!


On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:34:43 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Si,
>  Many thanks for your comments! 
> Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
> Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release! 
> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
> I think these are:
> - two column story river
> - colorful tabs
> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammed,
>>
>
>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
>> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
>> belong in a separate plugin.
>>
>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
>> For example:
>>
>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>
>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
>> far from your description of Shiraz: 
>>
>> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
>> not to install them.
>>
>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
>> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic 
>> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin 
>> that I am not seeing?
>>
> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
>>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>> Revision 2.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Si]

Hi Mohammed,

Sorry I didn't see this original reply so I only responded to your second 
comment!

>>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
>>> I think these are:
>>> - two column story river
>>> - colorful tabs
>>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover

Yes I personally think that this would be better. The original Shiraz for 
"Macros for creating stylish content in TiddlyWiki", and a new plugin for 
"Theme tweaks" (e.g. light/dark mode, colorful sidebar tabs etc). I think 
that narrower categorisation will make it easier for new users to grasp how 
they can apply these tools.

That's just my opinion - I will continue to use Shiraz regardless, and I 
appreciate the work you have put in to all your plugins!

On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:34:43 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Si,
>  Many thanks for your comments! 
> Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
> Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release! 
> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
> I think these are:
> - two column story river
> - colorful tabs
> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammed,
>>
>
>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
>> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
>> belong in a separate plugin.
>>
>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
>> For example:
>>
>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>
>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
>> far from your description of Shiraz: 
>>
>> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
>> not to install them.
>>
>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
>> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic 
>> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin 
>> that I am not seeing?
>>
> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
>>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>> Revision 2.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you for your comment Si. I will revise the description in the next
release!
In its original form Shiraz is a small CSS and macro framework! but later
on it extended to cover tables. images, etc...

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 9:31 PM Si  wrote:

> >>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing
> else!
>
> Yes, and its very cool! I'm just saying that I don't understand the logic
> of keeping it all in one plugin. A plugin that just contains "Things that
> use CSS" seems a little broad to me, and doesn't tell you much about the
> actual purpose of the plugin?
>
> On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:38:17 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and
>>> useful, however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like
>>> they should belong in a separate plugin.
>>>
>>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
>>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>>
>>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
>>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
>>> far from your description of Shiraz: "Shiraz is a small framework of
>>> stylesheets, templates and macros to create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki."
>>>
>>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
>>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
>>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
>>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
>>> not to install them.
>>>
>>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic to
>>> including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin that I
>>> am not seeing?
>>>
>>
>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing else!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

 Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
 create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
 like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
 texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.

 Code and demo

- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

 *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
 Revision 2.3.0


- Date: [10th May 2021]
- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro



 If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Si]

>>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing 
else! 

Yes, and its very cool! I'm just saying that I don't understand the logic 
of keeping it all in one plugin. A plugin that just contains "Things that 
use CSS" seems a little broad to me, and doesn't tell you much about the 
actual purpose of the plugin?

On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:38:17 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
>> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
>> belong in a separate plugin.
>>
>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
>> For example:
>>
>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>
>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
>> far from your description of Shiraz: "Shiraz is a small framework of 
>> stylesheets, templates and macros to create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki."
>>
>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
>> not to install them.
>>
>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
>> plugins. 
>>
>
>
>  
>
>> It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic to 
>> including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin that I 
>> am not seeing?
>>
>
> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing else!
>
>
>  
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
>>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>> Revision 2.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful,
> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should
> belong in a separate plugin.
>
> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
> For example:
>
>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>- Button for light/dark mode
>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>
> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
> far from your description of Shiraz: "Shiraz is a small framework of
> stylesheets, templates and macros to create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki."
>
> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
> not to install them.
>
> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
> plugins.
>




> It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic to
> including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin that I
> am not seeing?
>

The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing else!




>
>
> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>> Revision 2.3.0
>>
>>
>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>
>>
>>
>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Si,
 Many thanks for your comments!
Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release!
Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
I think these are:
- two column story river
- colorful tabs
- colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover





Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:

> Hi Mohammed,
>
> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful,
> however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should
> belong in a separate plugin.
>
> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
> For example:
>
>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>- Button for light/dark mode
>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>
> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
> far from your description of Shiraz:
>
> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>
> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
> not to install them.
>
> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic
> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin
> that I am not seeing?
> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>> Revision 2.3.0
>>
>>
>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>
>>
>>
>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[si]

 Hi Mohammad,

I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
belong in a separate plugin.

Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
For example:

   - Colorify sidebar tabs
   - Button for light/dark mode
   - Tiddler visibility on mouse hover

I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
far from your description of Shiraz: "Shiraz is a small framework of 
stylesheets, templates and macros to create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki."

Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
not to install them.

I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic 
to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin 
that I am not seeing?


On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>
> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
> Revision 2.3.0
>
>
>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>
>
>
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[si]

Hi Mohammed,

I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and useful, 
however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like they should 
belong in a separate plugin.

Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with 
creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks". 
For example:

   - Colorify sidebar tabs
   - Button for light/dark mode
   - Tiddler visibility on mouse hover

I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab. 
These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite 
far from your description of Shiraz: 

>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.

Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki 
theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they 
want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to 
these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or 
not to install them.

I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW 
plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic 
to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin 
that I am not seeing?
On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>
> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
> Revision 2.3.0
>
>
>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>
>
>
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 3:15 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
wrote:

> Ah, so it's kind of a dependency to CodeMirror right now. It makes no
> difference to me as I'm just using the settings in the More tab.
>

I will resolve the issue! I have resistance to overwriting Core tiddler
even in this case, which is a very simple change in the Settings tab!

>
> I tried installing CodeMirror earlier but removed it because I found it to
> interfere with editing tiddlers with TiddloidLite on Android. I was unable
> to select words or sentences by pressing on them. Apart from that, the
> plugin looked promising but I'm very well getting on without it. Shiraz is
> a completely different story. I got quickly addicted to that and I don't
> think it would be easy for me to back out of that if I wanted :)
>

Yes, Shiraz is a very handy tool especially if you like to have nice visual
effects (e.g alerts, cards, images, ...) the dynamic table, list-search,
slider, details, FAQ, ... is also very handy in most cases!

>
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
>
> On Sun, 23 May 2021, 10:32 Mohammad Rahmani, 
> wrote:
>
>> Quick access tab!
>>
>> Note: If you have not CodeMirro installed, look at the Sidebar / More tab
>> / Shiraz tab
>> You will find there the Shiraz and other kookma plugin settings for quick
>> access!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 11:53 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> Thanks, I noticed but haven't gotten around to taking a look at your
>>> version of it - too busy building other things in TiddlyWiki :) - but
>>> meanwhile I noticed what seems to be a small oversight in the Shiraz
>>> settings. The settings tiddler is tagged with
>>> $:/tags/ControlPanel/SettingsTab but the tag should be 
>>> $:/tags/ControlPanel/Settings
>>> (without tab at the end if it's supposed to show in the settings tab).
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Pall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:52 Mohammad,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Pall,
  See new update of Shiraz. It supports linktype using a new column
 template!

 Please see
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/EcgXtikbjTg/m/ijUbu8q_AQAJ

 On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:30:28 AM UTC+4:30 psigu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and
> I keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using
> so far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples.
> Then I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example
> experimenting with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in
> Soren Bronstad's Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using 
> the
> Shiraz plugin instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to
> be with it yet - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be
> possible to have a separate column to show the type of link (forward link,
> backlink vs tagging) so I'm right having three separate tables right now 
> in
> my ViewTemplate at the bottom. (I guess anyone reading this who hasn't
> checked out Soren Bronstad's video "A walk through my Zettelkasten" will
> have no idea what I'm talking about here.)
>
> On Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:16 Mohammad Rahmani, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pall,
>> Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in
>> Kookma, all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use 
>> JS.
>>
>>
>> Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking
>> Bootstrap 4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
>> Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki
>> you can make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ...
>>
>> To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial
>>
>> Some examples useful to be read
>>
>> - dynamic tables (e.g
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
>> - list-search (e.g
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
>> - images (e.g
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay or
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
>> - tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
>> -  cards
>> - badges
>> - buttons
>> - multi column story river
>> - multi column tiddlers
>> - sticky footer
>> - color palette switch
>> - ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>> I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was
>>> impressed. I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which
>>> might contain a lot of stuff I end up not using,

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Pall Sigurdsson]

Ah, so it's kind of a dependency to CodeMirror right now. It makes no
difference to me as I'm just using the settings in the More tab.

I tried installing CodeMirror earlier but removed it because I found it to
interfere with editing tiddlers with TiddloidLite on Android. I was unable
to select words or sentences by pressing on them. Apart from that, the
plugin looked promising but I'm very well getting on without it. Shiraz is
a completely different story. I got quickly addicted to that and I don't
think it would be easy for me to back out of that if I wanted :)

Best regards,
Pall


On Sun, 23 May 2021, 10:32 Mohammad Rahmani, 
wrote:

> Quick access tab!
>
> Note: If you have not CodeMirro installed, look at the Sidebar / More tab
> / Shiraz tab
> You will find there the Shiraz and other kookma plugin settings for quick
> access!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 11:53 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> Thanks, I noticed but haven't gotten around to taking a look at your
>> version of it - too busy building other things in TiddlyWiki :) - but
>> meanwhile I noticed what seems to be a small oversight in the Shiraz
>> settings. The settings tiddler is tagged with
>> $:/tags/ControlPanel/SettingsTab but the tag should be 
>> $:/tags/ControlPanel/Settings
>> (without tab at the end if it's supposed to show in the settings tab).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Pall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:52 Mohammad,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pall,
>>>  See new update of Shiraz. It supports linktype using a new column
>>> template!
>>>
>>> Please see
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/EcgXtikbjTg/m/ijUbu8q_AQAJ
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:30:28 AM UTC+4:30 psigu...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
 keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
 far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
 I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
 with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
 Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
 instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
 - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
 a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
 tagging) so I'm right having three separate tables right now in my
 ViewTemplate at the bottom. (I guess anyone reading this who hasn't checked
 out Soren Bronstad's video "A walk through my Zettelkasten" will have no
 idea what I'm talking about here.)

 On Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:16 Mohammad Rahmani, 
 wrote:

> Hi Pall,
> Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in
> Kookma, all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use JS.
>
>
> Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking
> Bootstrap 4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
> Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki you
> can make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ...
>
> To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial
>
> Some examples useful to be read
>
> - dynamic tables (e.g
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
> - list-search (e.g
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
> - images (e.g https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay
> or https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
> - tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
> -  cards
> - badges
> - buttons
> - multi column story river
> - multi column tiddlers
> - sticky footer
> - color palette switch
> - ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>> I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was
>> impressed. I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which
>> might contain a lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not
>> using everything that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm
>> finding it more and more useful.
>> I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the
>> changing "Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful.
>> Thanks!
>> Best regards,
>> Pall
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>>> create stylish cont

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Quick access tab!

Note: If you have not CodeMirro installed, look at the Sidebar / More tab /
Shiraz tab
You will find there the Shiraz and other kookma plugin settings for quick
access!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 11:53 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Thanks, I noticed but haven't gotten around to taking a look at your
> version of it - too busy building other things in TiddlyWiki :) - but
> meanwhile I noticed what seems to be a small oversight in the Shiraz
> settings. The settings tiddler is tagged with
> $:/tags/ControlPanel/SettingsTab but the tag should be 
> $:/tags/ControlPanel/Settings
> (without tab at the end if it's supposed to show in the settings tab).
>
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:52 Mohammad,  wrote:
>
>> Hi Pall,
>>  See new update of Shiraz. It supports linktype using a new column
>> template!
>>
>> Please see
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/EcgXtikbjTg/m/ijUbu8q_AQAJ
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:30:28 AM UTC+4:30 psigu...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
>>> keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
>>> far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
>>> I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
>>> with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
>>> Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
>>> instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
>>> - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
>>> a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
>>> tagging) so I'm right having three separate tables right now in my
>>> ViewTemplate at the bottom. (I guess anyone reading this who hasn't checked
>>> out Soren Bronstad's video "A walk through my Zettelkasten" will have no
>>> idea what I'm talking about here.)
>>>
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:16 Mohammad Rahmani, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Pall,
 Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in
 Kookma, all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use JS.


 Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking
 Bootstrap 4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
 Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki you
 can make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ...

 To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial

 Some examples useful to be read

 - dynamic tables (e.g
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
 - list-search (e.g
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
 - images (e.g https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay
 or https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
 - tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
 -  cards
 - badges
 - buttons
 - multi column story river
 - multi column tiddlers
 - sticky footer
 - color palette switch
 - ...









 On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
 wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
> I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was
> impressed. I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which
> might contain a lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not
> using everything that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm
> finding it more and more useful.
> I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the
> changing "Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful.
> Thanks!
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized
>> elements like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic 
>> tables,
>> badges, texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from
>> Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>> Revision 2.3.0
>>
>>
>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler 

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Pall,
 Thank you for your feedback. Yes, the issue is bare TW has not those sub
tabs under settings! Those are created by CodeMirror!
In fact CodeMirror overwrites the setting tab of core and creates those sub
tabs!

 So if you have installed codemirror, you can see that setting page! See
below screenshot

[image: image.png]


I have submitted a ticket on GitHub and am waiting for a decision! If
Jeremy accepts the proposal, then every plugin setting tab will appear
in $:/ControlPanel --> Settings as a sub tab not alongside Settings,
Saving, Appearance ...

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 11:53 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Thanks, I noticed but haven't gotten around to taking a look at your
> version of it - too busy building other things in TiddlyWiki :) - but
> meanwhile I noticed what seems to be a small oversight in the Shiraz
> settings. The settings tiddler is tagged with
> $:/tags/ControlPanel/SettingsTab but the tag should be 
> $:/tags/ControlPanel/Settings
> (without tab at the end if it's supposed to show in the settings tab).
>
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:52 Mohammad,  wrote:
>
>> Hi Pall,
>>  See new update of Shiraz. It supports linktype using a new column
>> template!
>>
>> Please see
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/EcgXtikbjTg/m/ijUbu8q_AQAJ
>>
>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:30:28 AM UTC+4:30 psigu...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
>>> keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
>>> far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
>>> I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
>>> with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
>>> Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
>>> instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
>>> - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
>>> a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
>>> tagging) so I'm right having three separate tables right now in my
>>> ViewTemplate at the bottom. (I guess anyone reading this who hasn't checked
>>> out Soren Bronstad's video "A walk through my Zettelkasten" will have no
>>> idea what I'm talking about here.)
>>>
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:16 Mohammad Rahmani, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Pall,
 Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in
 Kookma, all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use JS.


 Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking
 Bootstrap 4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
 Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki you
 can make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ...

 To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial

 Some examples useful to be read

 - dynamic tables (e.g
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
 - list-search (e.g
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
 - images (e.g https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay
 or https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
 - tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
 -  cards
 - badges
 - buttons
 - multi column story river
 - multi column tiddlers
 - sticky footer
 - color palette switch
 - ...









 On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
 wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
> I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was
> impressed. I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which
> might contain a lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not
> using everything that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm
> finding it more and more useful.
> I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the
> changing "Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful.
> Thanks!
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized
>> elements like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic 
>> tables,
>> badges, texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from
>> Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommen

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Pall Sigurdsson]

Hi Mohammad,

Thanks, I noticed but haven't gotten around to taking a look at your
version of it - too busy building other things in TiddlyWiki :) - but
meanwhile I noticed what seems to be a small oversight in the Shiraz
settings. The settings tiddler is tagged with
$:/tags/ControlPanel/SettingsTab but the tag should be
$:/tags/ControlPanel/Settings
(without tab at the end if it's supposed to show in the settings tab).

Best regards,
Pall










On Wed, 19 May 2021, 20:52 Mohammad,  wrote:

> Hi Pall,
>  See new update of Shiraz. It supports linktype using a new column
> template!
>
> Please see
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/EcgXtikbjTg/m/ijUbu8q_AQAJ
>
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:30:28 AM UTC+4:30 psigu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
>> keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
>> far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
>> I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
>> with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
>> Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
>> instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
>> - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
>> a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
>> tagging) so I'm right having three separate tables right now in my
>> ViewTemplate at the bottom. (I guess anyone reading this who hasn't checked
>> out Soren Bronstad's video "A walk through my Zettelkasten" will have no
>> idea what I'm talking about here.)
>>
>> On Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:16 Mohammad Rahmani, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pall,
>>> Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in
>>> Kookma, all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use JS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking
>>> Bootstrap 4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
>>> Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki you
>>> can make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ...
>>>
>>> To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial
>>>
>>> Some examples useful to be read
>>>
>>> - dynamic tables (e.g
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
>>> - list-search (e.g
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
>>> - images (e.g https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay
>>> or https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
>>> - tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
>>> -  cards
>>> - badges
>>> - buttons
>>> - multi column story river
>>> - multi column tiddlers
>>> - sticky footer
>>> - color palette switch
>>> - ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mohammad,
 I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was
 impressed. I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which
 might contain a lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not
 using everything that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm
 finding it more and more useful.
 I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the
 changing "Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful.
 Thanks!
 Best regards,
 Pall

 On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>
> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap
> 4.3.1.
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
> Revision 2.3.0
>
>
>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>extracts the text automatically
>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>extracts the text automatically
>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>
>
>
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad]

Hi Pall,
 See new update of Shiraz. It supports linktype using a new column template!

Please see
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/EcgXtikbjTg/m/ijUbu8q_AQAJ

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:30:28 AM UTC+4:30 psigu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I 
> keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so 
> far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then 
> I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting 
> with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's 
> Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin 
> instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet 
> - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have 
> a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs 
> tagging) so I'm right having three separate tables right now in my 
> ViewTemplate at the bottom. (I guess anyone reading this who hasn't checked 
> out Soren Bronstad's video "A walk through my Zettelkasten" will have no 
> idea what I'm talking about here.)
>
> On Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:16 Mohammad Rahmani,  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pall,
>> Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in 
>> Kookma, all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use JS.
>>
>>
>> Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking 
>> Bootstrap 4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
>> Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki you 
>> can make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ... 
>>
>> To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the 
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial
>>
>> Some examples useful to be read
>>
>> - dynamic tables (e.g 
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
>> - list-search (e.g 
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
>> - images (e.g https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay 
>> or https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
>> - tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
>> -  cards
>> - badges
>> - buttons
>> - multi column story river
>> - multi column tiddlers
>> - sticky footer
>> - color palette switch 
>> - ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>> I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was 
>>> impressed. I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which 
>>> might contain a lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not 
>>> using everything that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm 
>>> finding it more and more useful.
>>> I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the changing 
>>> "Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful. Thanks!
>>> Best regards,
>>> Pall
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

 Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
 create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
 like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
 texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.

 Code and demo

- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

 *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
 Revision 2.3.0


- Date: [10th May 2021]
- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
extracts the text automatically
- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
extracts the text automatically
- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro



 If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Pall,
In dynamic table currentRecord is equivalent to currentTiddler. In the
example I sent you
it only cares about links and backlinks not other types of nodes like
tagging! but you can add them!


I will add examples to Shiraz Demo later! But it seems you have been able
to get template work for you!
The Soren solution is a comprehensive one!


Yes, you need to do some practice with template, they are really powerful!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 6:13 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
wrote:

> Hello Mohammad,
>
> Your template returned always the string "backlink", also in the case of
> forward links. In addition to links and backlinks I also wanted to identify
> child tiddlers, that is tagging tiddlers. I managed to achieve all that by
> "borrowing" some additional code from the linktype template in Soren
> Bjornstad's Zettelkasten and combine it with yours. The full template from
> Soren includes some additional link types which I was not able to
> understand, for example "memberof" and "spouse". I ignored those for now
> and included only links, backlinks and tagging. I'm attaching the updated
> template.
>
> After this small exercise I'm starting to understand the power of column
> templates.
>
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
> On Sat, 15 May 2021, 07:01 Pall Sigurdsson,  wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Mohammad! I will try out the template and let you know.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Pall
>>
>> On Sat, 15 May 2021, 06:23 Mohammad Rahmani, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 2:30 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
 keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
 far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
 I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
 with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
 Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
 instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
 - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
 a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
 tagging) so I'm right having three separate

>>>
>>>
>>> There is no such template for links in Shiraz! I can add it in the next
>>> release! But for now you need to write your own template!
>>> Shiraz is very flexible and has good documentation to help you with tha!
>>> See
>>>
>>> In the tutorial look at the column template and see how new user
>>> templates are written!
>>>
>>> For you convenience I have attached a linktype column template to
>>> address your above problem and can have a ref explorer like Zettlkasten
>>> edition!
>>>
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> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Pall Sigurdsson]

Hello Mohammad,

Your template returned always the string "backlink", also in the case of
forward links. In addition to links and backlinks I also wanted to identify
child tiddlers, that is tagging tiddlers. I managed to achieve all that by
"borrowing" some additional code from the linktype template in Soren
Bjornstad's Zettelkasten and combine it with yours. The full template from
Soren includes some additional link types which I was not able to
understand, for example "memberof" and "spouse". I ignored those for now
and included only links, backlinks and tagging. I'm attaching the updated
template.

After this small exercise I'm starting to understand the power of column
templates.

Best regards,
Pall

On Sat, 15 May 2021, 07:01 Pall Sigurdsson,  wrote:

> Thank you, Mohammad! I will try out the template and let you know.
>
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
> On Sat, 15 May 2021, 06:23 Mohammad Rahmani, 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 2:30 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
>>> keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
>>> far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
>>> I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
>>> with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
>>> Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
>>> instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
>>> - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
>>> a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
>>> tagging) so I'm right having three separate
>>>
>>
>>
>> There is no such template for links in Shiraz! I can add it in the next
>> release! But for now you need to write your own template!
>> Shiraz is very flexible and has good documentation to help you with tha!
>> See
>>
>> In the tutorial look at the column template and see how new user
>> templates are written!
>>
>> For you convenience I have attached a linktype column template to address
>> your above problem and can have a ref explorer like Zettlkasten edition!
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Pall Sigurdsson]

Thank you, Mohammad! I will try out the template and let you know.

Best regards,
Pall

On Sat, 15 May 2021, 06:23 Mohammad Rahmani, 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 2:30 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
>> keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
>> far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
>> I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
>> with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
>> Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
>> instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
>> - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
>> a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
>> tagging) so I'm right having three separate
>>
>
>
> There is no such template for links in Shiraz! I can add it in the next
> release! But for now you need to write your own template!
> Shiraz is very flexible and has good documentation to help you with tha!
> See
>
> In the tutorial look at the column template and see how new user templates
> are written!
>
> For you convenience I have attached a linktype column template to address
> your above problem and can have a ref explorer like Zettlkasten edition!
>
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 2:30 AM Pall Sigurdsson 
wrote:

> Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
> keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
> far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
> I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
> with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
> Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
> instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
> - for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
> a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
> tagging) so I'm right having three separate
>


There is no such template for links in Shiraz! I can add it in the next
release! But for now you need to write your own template!
Shiraz is very flexible and has good documentation to help you with tha! See

In the tutorial look at the column template and see how new user templates
are written!

For you convenience I have attached a linktype column template to address
your above problem and can have a ref explorer like Zettlkasten edition!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Pall Sigurdsson]

Thanks, I've been reading the tutorial. There is a lot to take in and I
keep returning to it. The details widget is not the only thing I'm using so
far. I've found alerts to be useful for various emphasis and examples. Then
I've also put the dynamic tables into use. I'm for example experimenting
with some kind of reference explorer similar to the one in Soren Bronstad's
Zettelkasten (recent thread in this group), only using the Shiraz plugin
instead of TiddlyTables. I've not gotten to where I want to be with it yet
- for example I haven't figured out if or how it would be possible to have
a separate column to show the type of link (forward link, backlink vs
tagging) so I'm right having three separate tables right now in my
ViewTemplate at the bottom. (I guess anyone reading this who hasn't checked
out Soren Bronstad's video "A walk through my Zettelkasten" will have no
idea what I'm talking about here.)

On Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:16 Mohammad Rahmani, 
wrote:

> Hi Pall,
> Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in
> Kookma, all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use JS.
>
>
> Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking
> Bootstrap 4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
> Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki you can
> make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ...
>
> To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial
>
> Some examples useful to be read
>
> - dynamic tables (e.g
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
> - list-search (e.g
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
> - images (e.g https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay or
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
> - tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
> -  cards
> - badges
> - buttons
> - multi column story river
> - multi column tiddlers
> - sticky footer
> - color palette switch
> - ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>> I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was
>> impressed. I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which
>> might contain a lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not
>> using everything that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm
>> finding it more and more useful.
>> I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the changing
>> "Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful. Thanks!
>> Best regards,
>> Pall
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>>
>>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
>>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
>>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>>
>>> Code and demo
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>>> Revision 2.3.0
>>>
>>>
>>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
>>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>>extracts the text automatically
>>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Pall,
Many people are reluctant to use plugins. Except for two plugins in Kookma,
all plugins in kookma library are pure wikitext and do not use JS.


Shiraz is one of most powerful and useful plugins here, mimicking Bootstrap
4, one the most common CSS framework in web design nowadays!
Shiraz has safe classes of Bootstrap 4. Using Shiraz in Tiddlywiki you can
make elegant web apps, seb page, static page , ...

To get more familiar with Shiraz features see the
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial

Some examples useful to be read

- dynamic tables (e.g
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables)
- list-search (e.g
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search)
- images (e.g https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-overlay or
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fimage-polaroid)
- tables https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Tabels
-  cards
- badges
- buttons
- multi column story river
- multi column tiddlers
- sticky footer
- color palette switch
- ...









On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 6:43 PM Pall Sigurdsson 
wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
> I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was impressed.
> I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which might contain a
> lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not using everything
> that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm finding it more
> and more useful.
> I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the changing
> "Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful. Thanks!
> Best regards,
> Pall
>
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>> Revision 2.3.0
>>
>>
>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>
>>
>>
>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[si]

Thanks Mohammad for your reply.

>>> Slider has an internal state variable that remembers its last status 
despite the default status! 

So I am being picky but is there any easy way to do this with the Details 
macro? I just prefer the look/feel of the HTML element. Obviously it is 
possible, because it has been done here: 
tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#DetailsWidget. But maybe that requires JavaScript 
wizardry?

>>> BUT note that $:/state tiddlers are deleted on Node.js

I don't use Node.js so this isn't a problem for me personally, but what is 
the logic of deleting state tiddlers? I mean there must be lots of examples 
where you would want to remember the state of something?
On Friday, 14 May 2021 at 16:46:54 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Thank you Pall and Si
>
> An extensive tutorial with many examples has accompanied the demo
> See https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial
>
> YES, Shiraz has Display on Demand from version 1. 
> Shiraz has two macro for this Slider and Details. both get status to set 
> them open or closed by default!
> Slider has an internal state variable that remembers its last status 
> despite the default status! BUT note that $:/state tiddlers are deleted on 
> Node.js
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Si,
 The slider and details macros are very powerful, especially if you use
them with other tools in Shiraz. you create many useful design using them

Examples: Create FAQ in 5 finute!

   1. FAQ page using slider
   https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fslider-faqs
   2. FAQ page using details
   https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#demo%2Fadvanced%2Fdetails-faqs


More info:
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20FAQs%20Page



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 7:55 PM si  wrote:

> Thanks Mohammad - this is a very useful plugin.
>
> I only just realized it had a details macro. I've been using this
> , but have been lamenting
> the fact that it doesn't let you include links in the title. Yours does so
> thank you!
>
> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
>> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
>> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>> Revision 2.3.0
>>
>>
>>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
>>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
>>extracts the text automatically
>>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>>
>>
>>
>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you Pall and Si

An extensive tutorial with many examples has accompanied the demo
See https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Shiraz%20Tutorial

YES, Shiraz has Display on Demand from version 1.
Shiraz has two macro for this Slider and Details. both get status to set
them open or closed by default!
Slider has an internal state variable that remembers its last status
despite the default status! BUT note that $:/state tiddlers are deleted on
Node.js

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[si]

 Thanks Mohammad - this is a very useful plugin.

I only just realized it had a details macro. I've been using this 
, but have been lamenting the 
fact that it doesn't let you include links in the title.

In your version there a way to change a state tiddler so that TiddlyWiki 
will remember whether a particular instance of the details macro was left 
open or closed? I can see there is a status field, but I'm looking for 
something that will "remember" the status it was last left in.


On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>
> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
> Revision 2.3.0
>
>
>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>
>
>
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[si]

Thanks Mohammad - this is a very useful plugin.

I only just realized it had a details macro. I've been using this 
, but have been lamenting the 
fact that it doesn't let you include links in the title. Yours does so 
thank you!

On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>
> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
> Revision 2.3.0
>
>
>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>
>
>
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Pall Sigurdsson]

Hi Mohammad,
I added this to my personal TiddlyWiki in version 2.2.2 and was impressed. 
I'm usually reluctant to import "packages" like this, which might contain a 
lot of stuff I end up not using, but then I guess I'm not using everything 
that's in the core either. The more I explore Shiraz I'm finding it more 
and more useful.
I upgraded the plugin to 2.3.0 yesterday and I'm trying out the changing 
"Details on Demand" now. Great addition! Immediately useful. Thanks!
Best regards,
Pall

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>
> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to 
> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements 
> like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges, 
> texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>
> Code and demo
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new 
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
> Revision 2.3.0
>
>
>- Date: [10th May 2021]
>- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
>- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see 
>Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
>- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and 
>extracts the text automatically
>- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro
>
>
>
> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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