Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Mohammad]

Yes it works now something was wrong on my side!

Thank you Jan!

On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 2:25:04 PM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote:
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> Hi Mohammad
> Just sli: .
> I hope this helps. 
>
> Yours Jan
>
> Am 15.06.2018 um 12:24 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> Jan, 
>  To do incremental view using  is it enough to have only 
> the presenter plugin!
> For me seems it does not work!
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Jan]

Hi Mohammad
Just sli: .
I hope this helps.

Yours Jan

Am 15.06.2018 um 12:24 schrieb Mohammad:

Jan,
 To do incremental view using  is it enough to have 
only the presenter plugin!

For me seems it does not work!

/Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Mohammad]

Jan,
 To do incremental view using  is it enough to have only 
the presenter plugin!
For me seems it does not work!

/Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Mohammad]

Thank you Jan,
 I read the discussion and I will check it. For now I imported your 
Presenter plugin in a clean empty-TW-5.1.17 and try to do what you advised!


On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 2:43:42 PM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> if you just want to use the show, you do not have to do anything with the 
> extractmacro. Just put thetags around your steps. There 
> even is a button to do this. 
>
>
> Am 15.06.2018 um 11:08 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> @Jan 
> Okay, so I need to see how extract work first!
> I may ask more question! By the way I also try the revealwidget.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:41:16 PM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>> slidesnstories does not use with the textslicer but with the extract 
>> macro by Thomas Elminger.
>> The temporary Tiddlers are created and deleted for each Tiddler, they are 
>> deleted when switching to the next or when leaving the show. (This is why 
>> it is not easy to find them. If you crawl through my demo you will find a 
>> button to leave saving the temp slides to see what is happening. )
>>
>> Greetings Jan
>>
>>
>> Am 15.06.2018 um 06:03 schrieb Mohammad:
>>
>> Hi Jan, 
>>  Thank you for your note. If I understand you have used text slicer to 
>> extract the marked text by  and then create temporary tiddlers in 
>> the story river!
>> One question: when these tiddlers are created? at show time?
>> Is there any mechanism to remove them at the end of show? If for some 
>> reason you have early exit in the middle of show, are they removed?
>>
>> /
>>
>> On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:19:15 AM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>> Slidesnstories works by generating temporary Tiddlers for the content  
>>> surrounded by the tags   (If slides are marked, otherwise 
>>> the whole tiddler is shown).
>>> These are consecutively shown by switching the field show to yes and 
>>> then hidden by switching it to no when showing the next step. 
>>> A bit wierd but it works. 
>>> I would be happy to see someone using it...so if you have more questions 
>>> please ask.
>>>
>>> Yours Jan
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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

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Hi Mohammad,
if you just want to use the show, you do not have to do anything with 
the extractmacro. Just put thetags around your steps. 
There even is a button to do this.



Am 15.06.2018 um 11:08 schrieb Mohammad:

@Jan
Okay, so I need to see how extract work first!
I may ask more question! By the way I also try the revealwidget.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:41:16 PM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote:

Hi Mohammad,
slidesnstories does not use with the textslicer but with the
extract macro by Thomas Elminger.
The temporary Tiddlers are created and deleted for each Tiddler,
they are deleted when switching to the next or when leaving the
show. (This is why it is not easy to find them. If you crawl
through my demo you will find a button to leave saving the temp
slides to see what is happening. )

Greetings Jan


Am 15.06.2018 um 06:03 schrieb Mohammad:

Hi Jan,
 Thank you for your note. If I understand you have used text
slicer to extract the marked text by  and then create
temporary tiddlers in the story river!
One question: when these tiddlers are created? at show time?
Is there any mechanism to remove them at the end of show? If for
some reason you have early exit in the middle of show, are they
removed?

/

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:19:15 AM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote:

Hi Mohammad,
Slidesnstories works by generating temporary Tiddlers for the
content  surrounded by the tags   (If slides
are marked, otherwise the whole tiddler is shown).
These are consecutively shown by switching the field show to
yes and then hidden by switching it to no when showing the
next step.
A bit wierd but it works.
I would be happy to see someone using it...so if you have
more questions please ask.

Yours Jan

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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Mohammad]

@Jan
Okay, so I need to see how extract work first!
I may ask more question! By the way I also try the revealwidget.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:41:16 PM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> slidesnstories does not use with the textslicer but with the extract macro 
> by Thomas Elminger.
> The temporary Tiddlers are created and deleted for each Tiddler, they are 
> deleted when switching to the next or when leaving the show. (This is why 
> it is not easy to find them. If you crawl through my demo you will find a 
> button to leave saving the temp slides to see what is happening. )
>
> Greetings Jan
>
>
> Am 15.06.2018 um 06:03 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> Hi Jan, 
>  Thank you for your note. If I understand you have used text slicer to 
> extract the marked text by  and then create temporary tiddlers in 
> the story river!
> One question: when these tiddlers are created? at show time?
> Is there any mechanism to remove them at the end of show? If for some 
> reason you have early exit in the middle of show, are they removed?
>
> /
>
> On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:19:15 AM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>> Slidesnstories works by generating temporary Tiddlers for the content  
>> surrounded by the tags   (If slides are marked, otherwise 
>> the whole tiddler is shown).
>> These are consecutively shown by switching the field show to yes and then 
>> hidden by switching it to no when showing the next step. 
>> A bit wierd but it works. 
>> I would be happy to see someone using it...so if you have more questions 
>> please ask.
>>
>> Yours Jan
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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Jan]

Hi Mohammad,
slidesnstories does not use with the textslicer but with the extract 
macro by Thomas Elminger.
The temporary Tiddlers are created and deleted for each Tiddler, they 
are deleted when switching to the next or when leaving the show. (This 
is why it is not easy to find them. If you crawl through my demo you 
will find a button to leave saving the temp slides to see what is 
happening. )


Greetings Jan


Am 15.06.2018 um 06:03 schrieb Mohammad:

Hi Jan,
 Thank you for your note. If I understand you have used text slicer to 
extract the marked text by  and then create temporary tiddlers 
in the story river!

One question: when these tiddlers are created? at show time?
Is there any mechanism to remove them at the end of show? If for some 
reason you have early exit in the middle of show, are they removed?


/

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:19:15 AM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote:

Hi Mohammad,
Slidesnstories works by generating temporary Tiddlers for the
content  surrounded by the tags   (If slides are
marked, otherwise the whole tiddler is shown).
These are consecutively shown by switching the field show to yes
and then hidden by switching it to no when showing the next step.
A bit wierd but it works.
I would be happy to see someone using it...so if you have more
questions please ask.

Yours Jan

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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

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Hi Jan,
 Thank you for your note. If I understand you have used text slicer to 
extract the marked text by  and then create temporary tiddlers in 
the story river!
One question: when these tiddlers are created? at show time?
Is there any mechanism to remove them at the end of show? If for some 
reason you have early exit in the middle of show, are they removed?

/

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:19:15 AM UTC+4:30, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
> Slidesnstories works by generating temporary Tiddlers for the content  
> surrounded by the tags   (If slides are marked, otherwise 
> the whole tiddler is shown).
> These are consecutively shown by switching the field show to yes and then 
> hidden by switching it to no when showing the next step. 
> A bit wierd but it works. 
> I would be happy to see someone using it...so if you have more questions 
> please ask.
>
> Yours Jan
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Jan]

Hi Mohammad,
Slidesnstories works by generating temporary Tiddlers for the content  
surrounded by the tags   (If slides are marked, otherwise 
the whole tiddler is shown).
These are consecutively shown by switching the field show to yes and 
then hidden by switching it to no when showing the next step.

A bit wierd but it works.
I would be happy to see someone using it...so if you have more questions 
please ask.


Yours Jan









Am 14.06.2018 um 10:39 schrieb Mohammad:

Thank you Tony!
I got the idea! A state tiddler shall be used and based on that I can 
incrementally show the content!
I had a look at slidesnstories but I did not figure out how 
 works!

It also shows the contents incrementally!
One other solution is having a small JS code! But I think the better 
solution is not using JS.


/Mohammad

On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 11:52:14 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:

Mohammad,

With version 5.1.1 the reveal widget
https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget
  support for comparison
operators.

I suppose your slide tiddler could display a section if a value in
> N when N is 1 2 and 3

You could then have a shortcut that adds one to n gradually
revealing the content.  N could be be reset to 1 (or Zero) for
each tiddler.

I have not played with the keyboardWidget yet but it says The
keyboard shortcuts only take effect when the focus is within the
contained content. Which suggests to me  that you could simply
override the current next slide shortcut in tiddlers where you
want revealed content.

However from a usability perspective it would be nice to indicate
when more content is still to be revealed or the next slide will
appear.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 10:32:55 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:

Is it possible to use the Reveal Widget or other mechanism for
incremental reveal in Tiddlywiki?

Assume I have something like this

  * This
  * That
  * Other

I want to reveal each item after some action like mouse click
or shortcut key press.

You may know the KeeBoord plugin lets you define shortcut keys
in Tiddlywiki (http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/
)

As an example see this slidy sample from W3.org

https://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2/#(9)



Cheers
Mohammad


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[tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[Mohammad]

Thank you Tony!
I got the idea! A state tiddler shall be used and based on that I can 
incrementally show the content!
I had a look at slidesnstories but I did not figure out how  
works!
It also shows the contents incrementally!
One other solution is having a small JS code! But I think the better 
solution is not using JS.

/Mohammad

On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 11:52:14 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> With version 5.1.1 the reveal widget https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget  
> support 
> for comparison operators.
>
> I suppose your slide tiddler could display a section if a value in > N 
> when N is 1 2 and 3
>
> You could then have a shortcut that adds one to n gradually revealing the 
> content.  N could be be reset to 1 (or Zero) for each tiddler. 
>
> I have not played with the keyboardWidget yet but it says The keyboard 
> shortcuts only take effect when the focus is within the contained content. 
> Which suggests to me  that you could simply override the current next slide 
> shortcut in tiddlers where you want revealed content. 
>
> However from a usability perspective it would be nice to indicate when 
> more content is still to be revealed or the next slide will appear.
>
> Regards
> Tony  
>
> On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 10:32:55 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to use the Reveal Widget or other mechanism for 
>> incremental reveal in Tiddlywiki?
>>
>> Assume I have something like this
>>
>>- This
>>- That
>>- Other
>>
>> I want to reveal each item after some action like mouse click or shortcut 
>> key press.
>>
>> You may know the KeeBoord plugin lets you define shortcut keys in 
>> Tiddlywiki (http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/)
>>
>> As an example see this slidy sample from W3.org
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2/#(9)
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Slideshow effects - Incremental reveal

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

With version 5.1.1 the reveal 
widget https://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget  support for comparison 
operators.

I suppose your slide tiddler could display a section if a value in > N when 
N is 1 2 and 3

You could then have a shortcut that adds one to n gradually revealing the 
content.  N could be be reset to 1 (or Zero) for each tiddler. 

I have not played with the keyboardWidget yet but it says The keyboard 
shortcuts only take effect when the focus is within the contained content. 
Which suggests to me  that you could simply override the current next slide 
shortcut in tiddlers where you want revealed content. 

However from a usability perspective it would be nice to indicate when more 
content is still to be revealed or the next slide will appear.

Regards
Tony  

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 10:32:55 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Is it possible to use the Reveal Widget or other mechanism for incremental 
> reveal in Tiddlywiki?
>
> Assume I have something like this
>
>- This
>- That
>- Other
>
> I want to reveal each item after some action like mouse click or shortcut 
> key press.
>
> You may know the KeeBoord plugin lets you define shortcut keys in 
> Tiddlywiki (http://keeboord.tiddlyspot.com/)
>
> As an example see this slidy sample from W3.org
>
> https://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2/#(9)
>
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
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