[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

[Mark Cubberley]

I appreciate the help here.

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's the tiddlers in a zip file.


On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 4:50:48 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> There were a couple of problems. I don't think you can insert a plugin 
> (the four supporting plugins) into a plugin. You would have to break out 
> their content first before packing it into a new plugin. I could be wrong 
> on this, but it seemed to be a problem.
>
> In addition, there were at least two places in Dave's code where the 
> criteria had to be changed. Anywhere where there was tag[./giffmex ... 
> needed to be preceded by all[tiddlers+shadows] . I was surprised by this -- 
> I thought shadows would be picked up by a tag operator.
>
> My approach was to make a new node instance, drag-and-drop all the files 
> that have the main giffmex tag. Move all the tiddlers that are not part of 
> the four supporting plugins into plugins/Stroll, modify two tiddlers as 
> mentioned above, and make a plugin.info file. Then restart.
>
> If you want, you can "borrow" the attached plugin. It is not official. 
> Drag and drop it into your system, then drag and drop the supporting four 
> plugins.
>
> Remember, Dave is always making changes, so this plugin could become 
> outdated quickly. I only did a quick test, so there may be other 
> "surprises" buried in the code.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 2:17:41 PM UTC-7, Mark Cubberley wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the quick response! I'm not sure what I have in my Stroll 
>> plugin folder now but it looks like a mix of the Stroll files and the 
>> supporting plugins. I'm not convinced I understand then how to get the 
>> Stroll files and then the supporting plugin files when I'm using Stroll 
>> with Node.js.
>>
>> I can start from scratch (as I haven't generated any content yet) but I'm 
>> not sure how to go about doing it from David'd blank site. Can you direct 
>> me to a thread or site with more explicit instructions?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

There were a couple of problems. I don't think you can insert a plugin (the 
four supporting plugins) into a plugin. You would have to break out their 
content first before packing it into a new plugin. I could be wrong on 
this, but it seemed to be a problem.

In addition, there were at least two places in Dave's code where the 
criteria had to be changed. Anywhere where there was tag[./giffmex ... 
needed to be preceded by all[tiddlers+shadows] . I was surprised by this -- 
I thought shadows would be picked up by a tag operator.

My approach was to make a new node instance, drag-and-drop all the files 
that have the main giffmex tag. Move all the tiddlers that are not part of 
the four supporting plugins into plugins/Stroll, modify two tiddlers as 
mentioned above, and make a plugin.info file. Then restart.

If you want, you can "borrow" the attached plugin. It is not official. Drag 
and drop it into your system, then drag and drop the supporting four 
plugins.

Remember, Dave is always making changes, so this plugin could become 
outdated quickly. I only did a quick test, so there may be other 
"surprises" buried in the code.

Good luck!

On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 2:17:41 PM UTC-7, Mark Cubberley wrote:
>
> Thanks for the quick response! I'm not sure what I have in my Stroll 
> plugin folder now but it looks like a mix of the Stroll files and the 
> supporting plugins. I'm not convinced I understand then how to get the 
> Stroll files and then the supporting plugin files when I'm using Stroll 
> with Node.js.
>
> I can start from scratch (as I haven't generated any content yet) but I'm 
> not sure how to go about doing it from David'd blank site. Can you direct 
> me to a thread or site with more explicit instructions?
>
> Thanks.
>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

[Mark Cubberley]

Thanks for the quick response! I'm not sure what I have in my Stroll plugin 
folder now but it looks like a mix of the Stroll files and the supporting 
plugins. I'm not convinced I understand then how to get the Stroll files 
and then the supporting plugin files when I'm using Stroll with Node.js.

I can start from scratch (as I haven't generated any content yet) but I'm 
not sure how to go about doing it from David'd blank site. Can you direct 
me to a thread or site with more explicit instructions?

Thanks.

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Stroll needs the support of at least four other plugins:


The easiest way to get these is to drag and drop them from the plugins 
portion of the configuration panel from David's original site.

On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 12:51:37 PM UTC-7, Mark Cubberley wrote:

> My apologies. I'm brand new to Stroll/TiddlyWiki. I added the Stroll files 
> to a Stroll directory as well as a plugin.info file. When I restart node, 
> I can see the Stroll plugin but a tiddler lacks a text box (see below). Am 
> I missing something fundamental here?
>
>
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-07-23 at 3.47.45 PM.png]
>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

[Mark Cubberley]

My apologies. I'm brand new to Stroll/TiddlyWiki. I added the Stroll files 
to a Stroll directory as well as a plugin.info file. When I restart node, I 
can see the Stroll plugin but a tiddler lacks a text box (see below). Am I 
missing something fundamental here?



[image: Screen Shot 2020-07-23 at 3.47.45 PM.png]






On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 1:04:08 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Note that many of the tiddlers you have in your collection actually belong 
> to other people's plugins. It would probably be best to keep the 
> functionality of Stroll separate from that of the other tiddlers. 
>
> Since you're using node, and already have separated tiddlers, you're only 
> a few steps away from making your own local plugin folder.
>
> Make a folder "plugins" at the same level as "tiddlers". Make a folder 
> below plugins, perhaps "stroll". Move your Stroll files into the stroll 
> directory. Find a copy of "plugin.info" from some existing node project 
> and copy it into "stroll". Edit it with a text editor to indicate the 
> actual working version, compatibility, title, description, etc.
>
> Now when you restart node, there should be a stroll plugin. 
>
> HTH
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:20:39 AM UTC-7, Christoffer Samuelsson 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello. I am using Stroll with 
>> Node.js and figured out that Stroll is not a plugin but actually a 
>> collection of plugins/overrides/configs that are bundled toghether as 
>> Tiddlers. In other words, it cannot be referenced in the tiddlywiki.info 
>>  config 
>> file.
>>
>> I've mananged to make Stroll a "plugin" by creating a separate "Stroll" 
>> folder inside the default "tiddlers" folder, and transfering all effected 
>> *$__* files into that folder, which practiacally makes it an individual 
>> plugin.
>>
>> Is there a repo where Stroll is downloadable as a PluginFolder 
>>  ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christoffer
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

[David Gifford]

Hi posta

As you noticed, Stroll is a collection of plugins and other things that 
combine to work together. It is hard to tease it out from the others' 
plugins. Feel free to combine any of the tiddlers tagged $:/.giffmex/stroll 
into a plugin and host the plugin for your own use.  I do not use GitHub, 
unfortunately.

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 12:35:47 PM UTC-5 posta...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you for the reply.
> The tiddlers in the screenshot are all from Stroll, except maybe the 
> SiteTitle.
> As you say, I am not far from making my own plugin, but I thought maybe 
> Dave at Giffmex had another solution, like a repo to clone. It's easier to 
> maintain across updates.
>
> / Christoffer
>
>
> Den onsdag 8 juli 2020 kl. 19:04:08 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.:
>>
>> Note that many of the tiddlers you have in your collection actually 
>> belong to other people's plugins. It would probably be best to keep the 
>> functionality of Stroll separate from that of the other tiddlers. 
>>
>> Since you're using node, and already have separated tiddlers, you're only 
>> a few steps away from making your own local plugin folder.
>>
>> Make a folder "plugins" at the same level as "tiddlers". Make a folder 
>> below plugins, perhaps "stroll". Move your Stroll files into the stroll 
>> directory. Find a copy of "plugin.info" from some existing node project 
>> and copy it into "stroll". Edit it with a text editor to indicate the 
>> actual working version, compatibility, title, description, etc.
>>
>> Now when you restart node, there should be a stroll plugin. 
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:20:39 AM UTC-7, Christoffer Samuelsson 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello. I am using Stroll with 
>>> Node.js and figured out that Stroll is not a plugin but actually a 
>>> collection of plugins/overrides/configs that are bundled toghether as 
>>> Tiddlers. In other words, it cannot be referenced in the tiddlywiki.info 
>>>  config 
>>> file.
>>>
>>> I've mananged to make Stroll a "plugin" by creating a separate "Stroll" 
>>> folder inside the default "tiddlers" folder, and transfering all effected 
>>> *$__* files into that folder, which practiacally makes it an individual 
>>> plugin.
>>>
>>> Is there a repo where Stroll is downloadable as a PluginFolder 
>>>  ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christoffer
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The one's from snowgoose, danielo, sq, and flibbles are part of other 
plugins. You can go into the plugin manager and see the other plugins.

Depending on which version of Stroll you have, the way to find all the 
tiddlers that are actually part of Stroll is by the tag $:/giffmex/stroll 
or "stroll". 



On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 10:35:47 AM UTC-7, Christoffer Samuelsson 
wrote:
>
> Thank you for the reply.
> The tiddlers in the screenshot are all from Stroll, except maybe the 
> SiteTitle.
> As you say, I am not far from making my own plugin, but I thought maybe 
> Dave at Giffmex had another solution, like a repo to clone. It's easier to 
> maintain across updates.
>
> / Christoffer
>
> Den onsdag 8 juli 2020 kl. 19:04:08 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.:
>>
>> Note that many of the tiddlers you have in your collection actually 
>> belong to other people's plugins. It would probably be best to keep the 
>> functionality of Stroll separate from that of the other tiddlers. 
>>
>> Since you're using node, and already have separated tiddlers, you're only 
>> a few steps away from making your own local plugin folder.
>>
>> Make a folder "plugins" at the same level as "tiddlers". Make a folder 
>> below plugins, perhaps "stroll". Move your Stroll files into the stroll 
>> directory. Find a copy of "plugin.info" from some existing node project 
>> and copy it into "stroll". Edit it with a text editor to indicate the 
>> actual working version, compatibility, title, description, etc.
>>
>> Now when you restart node, there should be a stroll plugin. 
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:20:39 AM UTC-7, Christoffer Samuelsson 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello. I am using Stroll with 
>>> Node.js and figured out that Stroll is not a plugin but actually a 
>>> collection of plugins/overrides/configs that are bundled toghether as 
>>> Tiddlers. In other words, it cannot be referenced in the tiddlywiki.info 
>>>  config 
>>> file.
>>>
>>> I've mananged to make Stroll a "plugin" by creating a separate "Stroll" 
>>> folder inside the default "tiddlers" folder, and transfering all effected 
>>> *$__* files into that folder, which practiacally makes it an individual 
>>> plugin.
>>>
>>> Is there a repo where Stroll is downloadable as a PluginFolder 
>>>  ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christoffer
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

[Christoffer Samuelsson]

Thank you for the reply.
The tiddlers in the screenshot are all from Stroll, except maybe the 
SiteTitle.
As you say, I am not far from making my own plugin, but I thought maybe 
Dave at Giffmex had another solution, like a repo to clone. It's easier to 
maintain across updates.

/ Christoffer

Den onsdag 8 juli 2020 kl. 19:04:08 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.:
>
> Note that many of the tiddlers you have in your collection actually belong 
> to other people's plugins. It would probably be best to keep the 
> functionality of Stroll separate from that of the other tiddlers. 
>
> Since you're using node, and already have separated tiddlers, you're only 
> a few steps away from making your own local plugin folder.
>
> Make a folder "plugins" at the same level as "tiddlers". Make a folder 
> below plugins, perhaps "stroll". Move your Stroll files into the stroll 
> directory. Find a copy of "plugin.info" from some existing node project 
> and copy it into "stroll". Edit it with a text editor to indicate the 
> actual working version, compatibility, title, description, etc.
>
> Now when you restart node, there should be a stroll plugin. 
>
> HTH
>
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:20:39 AM UTC-7, Christoffer Samuelsson 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello. I am using Stroll with 
>> Node.js and figured out that Stroll is not a plugin but actually a 
>> collection of plugins/overrides/configs that are bundled toghether as 
>> Tiddlers. In other words, it cannot be referenced in the tiddlywiki.info 
>>  config 
>> file.
>>
>> I've mananged to make Stroll a "plugin" by creating a separate "Stroll" 
>> folder inside the default "tiddlers" folder, and transfering all effected 
>> *$__* files into that folder, which practiacally makes it an individual 
>> plugin.
>>
>> Is there a repo where Stroll is downloadable as a PluginFolder 
>>  ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christoffer
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll with Node.js

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Note that many of the tiddlers you have in your collection actually belong 
to other people's plugins. It would probably be best to keep the 
functionality of Stroll separate from that of the other tiddlers. 

Since you're using node, and already have separated tiddlers, you're only a 
few steps away from making your own local plugin folder.

Make a folder "plugins" at the same level as "tiddlers". Make a folder 
below plugins, perhaps "stroll". Move your Stroll files into the stroll 
directory. Find a copy of "plugin.info" from some existing node project and 
copy it into "stroll". Edit it with a text editor to indicate the actual 
working version, compatibility, title, description, etc.

Now when you restart node, there should be a stroll plugin. 

HTH

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:20:39 AM UTC-7, Christoffer Samuelsson 
wrote:
>
> Hello. I am using Stroll with 
> Node.js and figured out that Stroll is not a plugin but actually a 
> collection of plugins/overrides/configs that are bundled toghether as 
> Tiddlers. In other words, it cannot be referenced in the tiddlywiki.info 
>  config 
> file.
>
> I've mananged to make Stroll a "plugin" by creating a separate "Stroll" 
> folder inside the default "tiddlers" folder, and transfering all effected 
> *$__* files into that folder, which practiacally makes it an individual 
> plugin.
>
> Is there a repo where Stroll is downloadable as a PluginFolder 
>  ?
>
> Regards,
> Christoffer
>

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