[tw5] Re: Stylesheet Philosophy

2019-09-28 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
of course ...

The Bette Way 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nyMrjGX2vk=youtu.be=RD0nyMrjGX2vk

On Saturday, 28 September 2019 20:38:55 UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for their responses. As always, this forum is awesome!
>
> Still not sure which way I want to go, but I'll be studying the responses 
> closely.
>
> Damon
>
>
> On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 2:17:49 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Damon
>>
>> Either way could be good. It depends. 
>>
>> An approach I think that is very good is that found in Thomas Elmiger's 
>> BRICKS plugin. 
>>
>> Thomas broke down the entire base stylesheet for TW into modules to allow 
>> easier editing and understanding of it.
>>
>> It also includes a method to, when you done tweaking, to generate one 
>> stylesheet that takes up minimal space possible.
>>
>> Even if you don't use it, is useful to study to better understand TW CSS.
>>
>> See:  https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html#Stylesheet%20Manager
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Friday, 27 September 2019 20:33:13 UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> This is a generic question on what might be a best practice. When doing 
>>> stylesheets to customize your TW, is it better to have all the styles in a 
>>> single stylesheet or to have several stylesheets based on what is being 
>>> modified. I currently have a mix of both, but was just wondering what the 
>>> community does or thinks about this. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Damon
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Stylesheet Philosophy

2019-09-28 Thread Damon Pritchett
Thanks to everyone for their responses. As always, this forum is awesome!

Still not sure which way I want to go, but I'll be studying the responses 
closely.

Damon


On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 2:17:49 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Damon
>
> Either way could be good. It depends. 
>
> An approach I think that is very good is that found in Thomas Elmiger's 
> BRICKS plugin. 
>
> Thomas broke down the entire base stylesheet for TW into modules to allow 
> easier editing and understanding of it.
>
> It also includes a method to, when you done tweaking, to generate one 
> stylesheet that takes up minimal space possible.
>
> Even if you don't use it, is useful to study to better understand TW CSS.
>
> See:  https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html#Stylesheet%20Manager
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Friday, 27 September 2019 20:33:13 UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> This is a generic question on what might be a best practice. When doing 
>> stylesheets to customize your TW, is it better to have all the styles in a 
>> single stylesheet or to have several stylesheets based on what is being 
>> modified. I currently have a mix of both, but was just wondering what the 
>> community does or thinks about this. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Damon
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Stylesheet Philosophy

2019-09-28 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Damon

Either way could be good. It depends. 

An approach I think that is very good is that found in Thomas Elmiger's 
BRICKS plugin. 

Thomas broke down the entire base stylesheet for TW into modules to allow 
easier editing and understanding of it.

It also includes a method to, when you done tweaking, to generate one 
stylesheet that takes up minimal space possible.

Even if you don't use it, is useful to study to better understand TW CSS.

See:  https://tid.li/tw5/test/bricks.html#Stylesheet%20Manager

Best wishes
TT

On Friday, 27 September 2019 20:33:13 UTC+2, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> This is a generic question on what might be a best practice. When doing 
> stylesheets to customize your TW, is it better to have all the styles in a 
> single stylesheet or to have several stylesheets based on what is being 
> modified. I currently have a mix of both, but was just wondering what the 
> community does or thinks about this. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>

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[tw5] Re: Stylesheet Philosophy

2019-09-27 Thread Mohammad
Tiddlywiki philosophy is to use tiddler: the smallest meaningful.

from: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Philosophy%20of%20Tiddlers

The philosophy of tiddlers is that we maximize the possibilities for re-use 
> by slicing information up into the smallest semantically meaningful units 
> with rich modelling of relationships between them. Then we use aggregation 
> and composition to weave the fragments together to present narrative 
> stories.



So, I absolutely recommend you to go the Tiddlywiki way!
--Mohammad


On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 10:03:13 PM UTC+3:30, Damon Pritchett 
wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> This is a generic question on what might be a best practice. When doing 
> stylesheets to customize your TW, is it better to have all the styles in a 
> single stylesheet or to have several stylesheets based on what is being 
> modified. I currently have a mix of both, but was just wondering what the 
> community does or thinks about this. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>

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[tw5] Re: Stylesheet Philosophy

2019-09-27 Thread TonyM
A Personal, non css expert view.

It may depend on what the css is trying to do. 

   - If its supplementary and introducing new class etc.. I think they 
   could be organised in smaller independent style sheets in logical 
   groupings. 
   - However if the key is to overwrite existing CSS ie leveraging the 
   Cascading nature of CSS bundle them in a smaller number of stylesheets so 
   you can managed where in the cascade they apply see Control Panel > Info > 
   Advanced > Stylesheets where the order can be set with drag and drop.
   - Consider list-before or list-after on your stylesheets to assist here.

Personally although I have not published much to the community yet, beyond 
support, methods and code fragments in Google Groups. My design practice 
always takes account of the possibility of publishing plugins or bundles so 
others can reuse my designs. Keeping this in mind tends to guide how I 
structure my designs, can it be packaged for reuse in my own wikis, or to 
be published for use in others wikis. In this case I would select the css 
design that supports distribution and is careful not to have unintentional 
side effects.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 4:33:13 AM UTC+10, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> This is a generic question on what might be a best practice. When doing 
> stylesheets to customize your TW, is it better to have all the styles in a 
> single stylesheet or to have several stylesheets based on what is being 
> modified. I currently have a mix of both, but was just wondering what the 
> community does or thinks about this. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>

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[tw5] Re: Stylesheet Philosophy

2019-09-27 Thread coda coder
Form the point of view of authoring and maintenance (which is how you're 
asking), I do both.

I too use comments. For larger-grained tw-elements that need a lot of 
styling, I'll use dedicated tiddler-stylesheets for those. For 
"incidentals", (i.e. little nudges) I might add style elements inside a 
macro that needs them. I try to avoid 

For the larger stylesheets, I typically use a sidebar tab dedicated to 
showing them as a list. Then, "muscle-memory" aids me finding what I'm 
looking for.

For the smaller guys, I tend to start in the browser tools inspector to 
remind myself what's going on.

HTH.

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 1:38:20 PM UTC-5, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> The reason I'm asking this question is because I'm finding my large 
> stylesheet hard to find things sometimes. I do have some comments, but they 
> only slightly helpful. I'm leaning towards the multiple stylesheets, but 
> thought I'd ask what other folks are doing.
>
> Damon
>
>
> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> This is a generic question on what might be a best practice. When doing 
>> stylesheets to customize your TW, is it better to have all the styles in a 
>> single stylesheet or to have several stylesheets based on what is being 
>> modified. I currently have a mix of both, but was just wondering what the 
>> community does or thinks about this. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Damon
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Stylesheet Philosophy

2019-09-27 Thread Damon Pritchett
The reason I'm asking this question is because I'm finding my large 
stylesheet hard to find things sometimes. I do have some comments, but they 
only slightly helpful. I'm leaning towards the multiple stylesheets, but 
thought I'd ask what other folks are doing.

Damon


On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 11:33:13 AM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> This is a generic question on what might be a best practice. When doing 
> stylesheets to customize your TW, is it better to have all the styles in a 
> single stylesheet or to have several stylesheets based on what is being 
> modified. I currently have a mix of both, but was just wondering what the 
> community does or thinks about this. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>

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