[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[TonyM]

Whatever,

Thanks for the suggestion. Those point closer to software objects, although 
there is an overlap it not what I am after, but thanks anyway.

In someways the objects I am talking about are the ones you could trip over 
in a metaphorical sense. Most people will trip over a Plugin or a 
StyleSheet if they are using tiddlywiki.

Thanks
Tony

On Thursday, 17 May 2018 02:13:59 UTC+10, whatever wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Not sure how relevant this is, since it's for TWC, but Eric's insideTW (1) 
> lists objects in one of the lists. And his SystemInfoPlugin (2) shows TWC 
> internals as well.
>
> (1) http://www.tiddlytools.com/insideTW/
> (2) http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SystemInfoPlugin
>
> w
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 5:26:17 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I would like to identify all the possible "Objects" that relate to 
>> tiddlywiki to assist me in creating an effective tiddlywiki resource;
>>
>> Here are the ones I have so far
>>
>>- Code Snipits
>>- Discussions (eg Google Group)
>>- Editions
>>- Showcase ? (Example TiddlyWiki not an official edition)
>>- Macros
>>- Plugins
>>- Themes
>>- StyleSheets
>>- TiddlyWikis
>>- Menus
>>- Buttons
>>- Widgets
>>- Filters
>>- Solutions
>>
>> Please let me know of any others you think of
>>
>>
>> As with my Recent Posts TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please 
>> contribute 
>> 
>>  and TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute 
>>  I 
>> am continuing to develop a way of curating TiddlyWiki knowledge .
>>
>> I will not be revealing my proposal publicly until I have a Showcase to 
>> demonstrate. However if you are keen, do contact me with a Private Message. 
>> WordPress, TiddlyWiki and or Enterprise social experience are all in the 
>> mix along with online community development experience.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[@TiddlyTweeter]

TonyM 

> Send me your email address in a private message
>

TonyM, I did reply via email on this two days ago.

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[TonyM]

Josiah,

Small question big answer "In your pantheon schematic? Or generally? Where?"


   - I currently Have a TiddlyWIki with a TWOutlier view of all the 
   solutions, tools and a lot more. Everything I have identified so far as 
   needing to be addressed in a comprehensive solution.
  - We could call this a schematic model. 
   - I am working to turn this into a physically existing online resource. 
   I have structured the solution so that it allows scaling and growth buy 
   carefully dividing content into key areas. 
   - The key focus however is on an appropriate "publishing" of solutions, 
   so that they stand alone and can capture audiences in their own right, only 
   then bringing them to discover TiddlyWiki in all its glory.
   
Of late I realised a "Solution" can be as little as a thought bubble 
through to a whole discipline. As a result a Solution may consist of few or 
many things. 

I have come to realise the value of each and every solution being able to 
evolve in scale according to need. To put this in a practical way a 
solution may be an item in a list, in a directory of solutions, It then may 
have a page on a website with simple text, then it may have a social media 
Conversation about it and other information. Eventually it may deserve its 
own website or series of websites. As a result at this design phase I need 
to ensure this possibility. 

So since these solutions can be made up of any number of TiddlyWiki Objects 
and some solutions will share these objects (examples at the top of this 
thread). I want to understand and create repositories of each object type 
that can be referenced in a given solution. Then once I start building 
solution specific resources eg; "Presentations" I can record say relevant 
plugins (and other objects) that can then be referenced in another 
solution. 

Basically I am trying to take the whole tiddlywiki kit and kaboodle 
(universe) and reduce it to its systematic or schematic objects (analysis) 
so that when I reassemble it (synthesis)  there is little or no duplication 
of everything, and there are multiple ways to find anything in the 
tiddlywiki universe. 


Finally one major driver of this approach is content capture and 
maintenance along with community development and uptake. If we do not 
structure this well it will be a nightmare to administer and use. I have 
enough nightmares. 

Send me your email address in a private message, if you wish to contribute 
in more detail and I will invite you to a conversation about this, the 
conversation tool is part of this solution.

I in fact, want you to contribute because you have being a key community 
builder of late, raising examples and discussions.

 Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 10:08:42 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>  TonyM wrote:
>
> ...I am not sure if Importers exist but Parsers and Exporters certainly 
>> do, so I can use them.
>>
>
> Yes. We use them. And, obviously Importers too. 
>
>>
>> Perhaps what you are saying belongs elsewhere in the pantheon of 
>> TiddlyWiki?
>>
>
> In your pantheon schematic? Or generally? Where?
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[@TiddlyTweeter]

 TonyM wrote:

...I am not sure if Importers exist but Parsers and Exporters certainly do, 
> so I can use them.
>

Yes. We use them. And, obviously Importers too. 

>
> Perhaps what you are saying belongs elsewhere in the pantheon of 
> TiddlyWiki?
>

In your pantheon schematic? Or generally? Where?




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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[TonyM]

Josiah,

I am keen to identify "Objects", in Fact Object Types, things for which 
there are typically more than one of each, against which we may want to 
list alternatives. I am not sure if Importers exist but Parsers and 
Exporters certainly do, so I can use them.

Perhaps what you are saying belongs elsewhere in the pantheon of TiddlyWiki?

Otherwise let me know
Thanks
Tony

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 12:43:39 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> No. I mean the way that TW uses its Parsing SYSTEM to translate bare 
> markup to rendered HTML. This is more primary than any one specific import 
> or export format. Its the primary system that enables such CONVERSIONS.
>
> Its not so well documented as yet.
>
> On Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:32:57 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> By that you mean parsers, exporters and importers I presume?
>>
>> Thanks all
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[@TiddlyTweeter]

No. I mean the way that TW uses its Parsing SYSTEM to translate bare markup 
to rendered HTML. This is more primary than any one specific import or 
export format. Its the primary system that enables such CONVERSIONS.

Its not so well documented as yet.

On Tuesday, 15 May 2018 16:32:57 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Josiah
>
> By that you mean parsers, exporters and importers I presume?
>
> Thanks all
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[TonyM]

Josiah

By that you mean parsers, exporters and importers I presume?

Thanks all
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki "Objects" - Please contribute

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Parsing

Import

Export

On Tuesday, 15 May 2018 05:26:17 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I would like to identify all the possible "Objects" that relate to 
> tiddlywiki to assist me in creating an effective tiddlywiki resource;
>
> Here are the ones I have so far
>
>- Code Snipits
>- Discussions (eg Google Group)
>- Editions
>- Showcase ? (Example TiddlyWiki not an official edition)
>- Macros
>- Plugins
>- Themes
>- StyleSheets
>- TiddlyWikis
>- Menus
>- Buttons
>- Widgets
>- Filters
>- Solutions
>
> Please let me know of any others you think of
>
>
> As with my Recent Posts TiddlyWiki Focused Solution Areas - Please 
> contribute 
> 
>  and TiddlyWiki Focused Designer areas - Please contribute 
>  I 
> am continuing to develop a way of curating TiddlyWiki knowledge .
>
> I will not be revealing my proposal publicly until I have a Showcase to 
> demonstrate. However if you are keen, do contact me with a Private Message. 
> WordPress, TiddlyWiki and or Enterprise social experience are all in the 
> mix along with online community development experience.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>

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