Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:51:46 PM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> No attribution needed from my end, if you feel its necessary a link to
> Github would do: https://github.com/saqimtiaz
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 4:20:39 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, interesting, I hadn't seen this plugin previously. I've put a
>> link to this thread in the addendum; but I will enlarge the section and put
>> an explicit link to the plugin and include your code snippet too.
>> Incidentally do you have a home page / social media profile so I can
>> attribute you correctly (assuming you wanted that)?
>>
>> Incidentally my blog posts are always like this - it is only when I've
>> finished them I find half a dozen interesting new ways of approaching the
>> problem :)
>>
>> Yours
>> Gene
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 10:24:15 AM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Gene this plugin might be worth a look too:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/linonetwo/tiddlywiki-plugins/tree/master/plugins/linonetwo/watch-fs
>>>
>>> "This plugin enables TiddlyWiki to watch the change in your disk, and if
>>> you edit one of your tiddler using editor likes VSCode and save it on the
>>> disk, the change will immediately reflected in the browser."
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 8:01:46 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
@Saq - Ha yes, that's a neat way of getting around the need for
nodemon, that I hadn't considered (mostly as I was ignorant of the API /
focussed on writing to the folder). And you could call a bash script from
Vim, or as @David Shaw points out an even tidier way would be to write it
with VimL.
If I have time for a project prior to the next release, I might give it
a whirl. Thanks for the suggestion / education.
Yours,
Gene
On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC+1 David Shaw wrote:
> Like Saq, I'm no Vim expert, but there's also the built in VimL
> language that might be able to do this without having to invoke external
> scripts.
>
> And thanks for the original post - very interesting and possibly of
> use to me.
>
> Many thanks,
> David Shaw
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 09:50 Saq Imtiaz, wrote:
>
>> Hi Gene,
>>
>> For the specific use case that your video demonstrates, i.e. creating
>> short new tiddlers rather than editing existing ones, have you
>> considered
>> the following workflow:
>>
>> - don't write your newly created tiddler files to the wiki directory.
>> - instead have vim do a PUT request with cURL to the tiddlywiki to
>> save the tiddler.
>>
>> API:
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler:%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> curl -X PUT -i 'http://192.168.0.12:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/
>> NewTiddlerTitle' --data '{
>> "tags": "firstTag anotherTag",
>> "creator": "gene",
>> "modifier": "gene",
>> "text": "The use of knowledge in society"
>> }' -H "X-Requested-With: TiddlyWiki"
>>
>> I don't use VIM myself but as far as I know it can execute bash
>> scripts so you could set one up to do the PUT with cURL. Alternatively
>> there seem to be VIM plugins specifically for interacting with APIs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Saq
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
Hi Gene,
No attribution needed from my end, if you feel its necessary a link to
Github would do: https://github.com/saqimtiaz
Cheers,
Saq
On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 4:20:39 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
wrote:
> Thank you, interesting, I hadn't seen this plugin previously. I've put a
> link to this thread in the addendum; but I will enlarge the section and put
> an explicit link to the plugin and include your code snippet too.
> Incidentally do you have a home page / social media profile so I can
> attribute you correctly (assuming you wanted that)?
>
> Incidentally my blog posts are always like this - it is only when I've
> finished them I find half a dozen interesting new ways of approaching the
> problem :)
>
> Yours
> Gene
>
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 10:24:15 AM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Gene this plugin might be worth a look too:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/linonetwo/tiddlywiki-plugins/tree/master/plugins/linonetwo/watch-fs
>>
>> "This plugin enables TiddlyWiki to watch the change in your disk, and if
>> you edit one of your tiddler using editor likes VSCode and save it on the
>> disk, the change will immediately reflected in the browser."
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 8:01:46 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Saq - Ha yes, that's a neat way of getting around the need for nodemon,
>>> that I hadn't considered (mostly as I was ignorant of the API / focussed on
>>> writing to the folder). And you could call a bash script from Vim, or as
>>> @David Shaw points out an even tidier way would be to write it with VimL.
>>>
>>> If I have time for a project prior to the next release, I might give it
>>> a whirl. Thanks for the suggestion / education.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC+1 David Shaw wrote:
>>>
Like Saq, I'm no Vim expert, but there's also the built in VimL
language that might be able to do this without having to invoke external
scripts.
And thanks for the original post - very interesting and possibly of use
to me.
Many thanks,
David Shaw
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 09:50 Saq Imtiaz, wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> For the specific use case that your video demonstrates, i.e. creating
> short new tiddlers rather than editing existing ones, have you considered
> the following workflow:
>
> - don't write your newly created tiddler files to the wiki directory.
> - instead have vim do a PUT request with cURL to the tiddlywiki to
> save the tiddler.
>
> API:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler:%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D
>
> Example:
>
> curl -X PUT -i 'http://192.168.0.12:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/
> NewTiddlerTitle' --data '{
> "tags": "firstTag anotherTag",
> "creator": "gene",
> "modifier": "gene",
> "text": "The use of knowledge in society"
> }' -H "X-Requested-With: TiddlyWiki"
>
> I don't use VIM myself but as far as I know it can execute bash
> scripts so you could set one up to do the PUT with cURL. Alternatively
> there seem to be VIM plugins specifically for interacting with APIs.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
Thank you, interesting, I hadn't seen this plugin previously. I've put a
link to this thread in the addendum; but I will enlarge the section and put
an explicit link to the plugin and include your code snippet too.
Incidentally do you have a home page / social media profile so I can
attribute you correctly (assuming you wanted that)?
Incidentally my blog posts are always like this - it is only when I've
finished them I find half a dozen interesting new ways of approaching the
problem :)
Yours
Gene
On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 10:24:15 AM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> @Gene this plugin might be worth a look too:
>
>
> https://github.com/linonetwo/tiddlywiki-plugins/tree/master/plugins/linonetwo/watch-fs
>
> "This plugin enables TiddlyWiki to watch the change in your disk, and if
> you edit one of your tiddler using editor likes VSCode and save it on the
> disk, the change will immediately reflected in the browser."
>
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 8:01:46 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
> wrote:
>
>> @Saq - Ha yes, that's a neat way of getting around the need for nodemon,
>> that I hadn't considered (mostly as I was ignorant of the API / focussed on
>> writing to the folder). And you could call a bash script from Vim, or as
>> @David Shaw points out an even tidier way would be to write it with VimL.
>>
>> If I have time for a project prior to the next release, I might give it a
>> whirl. Thanks for the suggestion / education.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Gene
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC+1 David Shaw wrote:
>>
>>> Like Saq, I'm no Vim expert, but there's also the built in VimL language
>>> that might be able to do this without having to invoke external scripts.
>>>
>>> And thanks for the original post - very interesting and possibly of use
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> David Shaw
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 09:50 Saq Imtiaz, wrote:
>>>
Hi Gene,
For the specific use case that your video demonstrates, i.e. creating
short new tiddlers rather than editing existing ones, have you considered
the following workflow:
- don't write your newly created tiddler files to the wiki directory.
- instead have vim do a PUT request with cURL to the tiddlywiki to save
the tiddler.
API:
https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler:%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D
Example:
curl -X PUT -i 'http://192.168.0.12:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/
NewTiddlerTitle' --data '{
"tags": "firstTag anotherTag",
"creator": "gene",
"modifier": "gene",
"text": "The use of knowledge in society"
}' -H "X-Requested-With: TiddlyWiki"
I don't use VIM myself but as far as I know it can execute bash scripts
so you could set one up to do the PUT with cURL. Alternatively there seem
to be VIM plugins specifically for interacting with APIs.
Cheers,
Saq
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
@Gene this plugin might be worth a look too:
https://github.com/linonetwo/tiddlywiki-plugins/tree/master/plugins/linonetwo/watch-fs
"This plugin enables TiddlyWiki to watch the change in your disk, and if
you edit one of your tiddler using editor likes VSCode and save it on the
disk, the change will immediately reflected in the browser."
On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 8:01:46 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
wrote:
> @Saq - Ha yes, that's a neat way of getting around the need for nodemon,
> that I hadn't considered (mostly as I was ignorant of the API / focussed on
> writing to the folder). And you could call a bash script from Vim, or as
> @David Shaw points out an even tidier way would be to write it with VimL.
>
> If I have time for a project prior to the next release, I might give it a
> whirl. Thanks for the suggestion / education.
>
> Yours,
> Gene
>
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC+1 David Shaw wrote:
>
>> Like Saq, I'm no Vim expert, but there's also the built in VimL language
>> that might be able to do this without having to invoke external scripts.
>>
>> And thanks for the original post - very interesting and possibly of use
>> to me.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> David Shaw
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 09:50 Saq Imtiaz, wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gene,
>>>
>>> For the specific use case that your video demonstrates, i.e. creating
>>> short new tiddlers rather than editing existing ones, have you considered
>>> the following workflow:
>>>
>>> - don't write your newly created tiddler files to the wiki directory.
>>> - instead have vim do a PUT request with cURL to the tiddlywiki to save
>>> the tiddler.
>>>
>>> API:
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler:%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> curl -X PUT -i 'http://192.168.0.12:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/
>>> NewTiddlerTitle' --data '{
>>> "tags": "firstTag anotherTag",
>>> "creator": "gene",
>>> "modifier": "gene",
>>> "text": "The use of knowledge in society"
>>> }' -H "X-Requested-With: TiddlyWiki"
>>>
>>> I don't use VIM myself but as far as I know it can execute bash scripts
>>> so you could set one up to do the PUT with cURL. Alternatively there seem
>>> to be VIM plugins specifically for interacting with APIs.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
@Saq - Ha yes, that's a neat way of getting around the need for nodemon,
that I hadn't considered (mostly as I was ignorant of the API / focussed on
writing to the folder). And you could call a bash script from Vim, or as
@David Shaw points out an even tidier way would be to write it with VimL.
If I have time for a project prior to the next release, I might give it a
whirl. Thanks for the suggestion / education.
Yours,
Gene
On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:19 AM UTC+1 David Shaw wrote:
> Like Saq, I'm no Vim expert, but there's also the built in VimL language
> that might be able to do this without having to invoke external scripts.
>
> And thanks for the original post - very interesting and possibly of use to
> me.
>
> Many thanks,
> David Shaw
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 09:50 Saq Imtiaz, wrote:
>
>> Hi Gene,
>>
>> For the specific use case that your video demonstrates, i.e. creating
>> short new tiddlers rather than editing existing ones, have you considered
>> the following workflow:
>>
>> - don't write your newly created tiddler files to the wiki directory.
>> - instead have vim do a PUT request with cURL to the tiddlywiki to save
>> the tiddler.
>>
>> API:
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler:%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> curl -X PUT -i 'http://192.168.0.12:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/
>> NewTiddlerTitle' --data '{
>> "tags": "firstTag anotherTag",
>> "creator": "gene",
>> "modifier": "gene",
>> "text": "The use of knowledge in society"
>> }' -H "X-Requested-With: TiddlyWiki"
>>
>> I don't use VIM myself but as far as I know it can execute bash scripts
>> so you could set one up to do the PUT with cURL. Alternatively there seem
>> to be VIM plugins specifically for interacting with APIs.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Saq
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
Like Saq, I'm no Vim expert, but there's also the built in VimL language
that might be able to do this without having to invoke external scripts.
And thanks for the original post - very interesting and possibly of use to
me.
Many thanks,
David Shaw
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 09:50 Saq Imtiaz, wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> For the specific use case that your video demonstrates, i.e. creating
> short new tiddlers rather than editing existing ones, have you considered
> the following workflow:
>
> - don't write your newly created tiddler files to the wiki directory.
> - instead have vim do a PUT request with cURL to the tiddlywiki to save
> the tiddler.
>
> API:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler:%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D
>
> Example:
>
> curl -X PUT -i 'http://192.168.0.12:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/
> NewTiddlerTitle' --data '{
> "tags": "firstTag anotherTag",
> "creator": "gene",
> "modifier": "gene",
> "text": "The use of knowledge in society"
> }' -H "X-Requested-With: TiddlyWiki"
>
> I don't use VIM myself but as far as I know it can execute bash scripts so
> you could set one up to do the PUT with cURL. Alternatively there seem to
> be VIM plugins specifically for interacting with APIs.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
Hi Gene,
For the specific use case that your video demonstrates, i.e. creating short
new tiddlers rather than editing existing ones, have you considered the
following workflow:
- don't write your newly created tiddler files to the wiki directory.
- instead have vim do a PUT request with cURL to the tiddlywiki to save the
tiddler.
API:
https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler:%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D
Example:
curl -X PUT -i 'http://192.168.0.12:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/
NewTiddlerTitle' --data '{
"tags": "firstTag anotherTag",
"creator": "gene",
"modifier": "gene",
"text": "The use of knowledge in society"
}' -H "X-Requested-With: TiddlyWiki"
I don't use VIM myself but as far as I know it can execute bash scripts so
you could set one up to do the PUT with cURL. Alternatively there seem to
be VIM plugins specifically for interacting with APIs.
Cheers,
Saq
On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 10:21:56 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
wrote:
> Sorry for delay in response, my first attempt seemed not to get picked up
> by Google Groups.
>
> Anyway, I appreciate the reply; your set up sounds a lot more
> sophisticated. I too will use the new version as a prompt to see if I can
> refine how I'm doing this, nodemon is fine but definitely feels slightly
> kludgy.
>
> NB - I've added a video to my original blog post, realised my description
> of creating tiddlers from the command line is clearer when you can see it.
>
> Yours
> Gene
>
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:41:32 PM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That is a very interesting setup, thank you for taking the time to share
>> it.
>>
>> My use case for notes also involves interacting with them via text
>> editors and other tools as well as having them in TiddlyWiki. What I set
>> up a few years back was a combo of fswatch + cURL + the tiddlywiki server
>> API. Watching for file system changes wasn't as reliable at the time so the
>> setup was a bit finicky and tricky to get it right. So I've never fiddled
>> with the config or even upgraded the wiki once I had it working.
>>
>> The next version of TW includes a server sent events feature with which
>> tiddlers propagate from the server to client almost instantly, so that will
>> be my queue to upgrade that wiki. I will need to consider if moving to
>> nodemon might make sense as well, I use it for TW dev at the moment and it
>> does seem to work well enough.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Saq
>>
>> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 3:27:35 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I hesitate slightly in posting to this group as my use case covers such
>>> a niche audience, I'm not sure how much utility there is in sharing it.
>>> However in short I wanted to host a TiddlyWiki on a Raspberry Pi, create
>>> tiddlers from the command line and edit them with vim. Once I figured out
>>> how to do that I thought I'd blog about it (mostly so I can retrace my
>>> steps later on):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.preciouschicken.com/blog/posts/tiddlywiki5-raspberry-pi-guide/
>>>
>>> I'm not sure the nodemon hack will be required in future, I think I read
>>> another thread suggesting that this form of updating functionality might be
>>> built in (though I could have got that wrong)?
>>>
>>> Many thanks to the creator and the maintainers of TiddlyWiki. Really
>>> enjoy using and playing around with it.
>>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
Sorry for delay in response, my first attempt seemed not to get picked up by Google Groups. Anyway, I appreciate the reply; your set up sounds a lot more sophisticated. I too will use the new version as a prompt to see if I can refine how I'm doing this, nodemon is fine but definitely feels slightly kludgy. NB - I've added a video to my original blog post, realised my description of creating tiddlers from the command line is clearer when you can see it. Yours Gene On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:41:32 PM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote: > That is a very interesting setup, thank you for taking the time to share > it. > > My use case for notes also involves interacting with them via text editors > and other tools as well as having them in TiddlyWiki. What I set up a few > years back was a combo of fswatch + cURL + the tiddlywiki server API. > Watching for file system changes wasn't as reliable at the time so the > setup was a bit finicky and tricky to get it right. So I've never fiddled > with the config or even upgraded the wiki once I had it working. > > The next version of TW includes a server sent events feature with which > tiddlers propagate from the server to client almost instantly, so that will > be my queue to upgrade that wiki. I will need to consider if moving to > nodemon might make sense as well, I use it for TW dev at the moment and it > does seem to work well enough. > > Cheers, > Saq > > On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 3:27:35 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com > wrote: > >> I hesitate slightly in posting to this group as my use case covers such a >> niche audience, I'm not sure how much utility there is in sharing it. >> However in short I wanted to host a TiddlyWiki on a Raspberry Pi, create >> tiddlers from the command line and edit them with vim. Once I figured out >> how to do that I thought I'd blog about it (mostly so I can retrace my >> steps later on): >> >> https://www.preciouschicken.com/blog/posts/tiddlywiki5-raspberry-pi-guide/ >> >> I'm not sure the nodemon hack will be required in future, I think I read >> another thread suggesting that this form of updating functionality might be >> built in (though I could have got that wrong)? >> >> Many thanks to the creator and the maintainers of TiddlyWiki. Really >> enjoy using and playing around with it. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e08f6d06-2bc8-4d3e-af87-088e5f2d9bccn%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki5, Raspberry Pi and Vim: A guide for the command line aficionado
That is a very interesting setup, thank you for taking the time to share it. My use case for notes also involves interacting with them via text editors and other tools as well as having them in TiddlyWiki. What I set up a few years back was a combo of fswatch + cURL + the tiddlywiki server API. Watching for file system changes wasn't as reliable at the time so the setup was a bit finicky and tricky to get it right. So I've never fiddled with the config or even upgraded the wiki once I had it working. The next version of TW includes a server sent events feature with which tiddlers propagate from the server to client almost instantly, so that will be my queue to upgrade that wiki. I will need to consider if moving to nodemon might make sense as well, I use it for TW dev at the moment and it does seem to work well enough. Cheers, Saq On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 3:27:35 PM UTC+2 he...@preciouschicken.com wrote: > I hesitate slightly in posting to this group as my use case covers such a > niche audience, I'm not sure how much utility there is in sharing it. > However in short I wanted to host a TiddlyWiki on a Raspberry Pi, create > tiddlers from the command line and edit them with vim. Once I figured out > how to do that I thought I'd blog about it (mostly so I can retrace my > steps later on): > > https://www.preciouschicken.com/blog/posts/tiddlywiki5-raspberry-pi-guide/ > > I'm not sure the nodemon hack will be required in future, I think I read > another thread suggesting that this form of updating functionality might be > built in (though I could have got that wrong)? > > Many thanks to the creator and the maintainers of TiddlyWiki. Really > enjoy using and playing around with it. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c8b8fbff-198c-49b9-b82f-2714b01ab274n%40googlegroups.com.
