Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

2021-03-17 Thread Mohammad Rahmani 
Hello Dave,
 Thank you for the suggestion!
Based on Jeremy and Thomas discussions I think the best is to have four to
six main colors (scheme/mood)
and then every item gets its color (foreground/background) automatically!
Users can then do fine adjustment!

The categories you suggested can be very useful for developing the code to
adjust the colors of different elements.

I am still digging to see what is the philosophy behind the current design!
I could not find a logic to be able to set colors programmatically!
For example the foreground color of view toolbar controls is used for the
background of editor toolbar control!!
I am thinking if I can develop a new base palette but it is a lot of work.


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:01 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> I enjoyed this discussion! It would help to organize the colors by topic,
> then list them in order from general to specific.
>
> *Global UI styles (i.e., page, tiddler, basic sidebar)*
>
> Global backgrounds
>
>- General background
>- Page background
>- Sidebar background
>- Tiddler background
>- etc
>
> Global foregrounds (text)
>
>- e.g., sitetitle, etc
>
> Global links
> Global borders
>
> *Specific UI element styles*
>
> Alerts
> Buttons
> Code
> Dragger
> Dropdowns
> Dropzone
> Modals
> Tabs
> etc
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 10:52:59 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Referencing to Tweakable colour palette
>> 
>>
>> 1. Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/
>> 2. Open the Advanced search
>> 
>> 3. In the filter tab enter [[$:/palettes/Vanilla]indexes[]count[]]
>>
>> You see there are *132 *css selectors!
>>
>> Trying to create a new template is a BIG headache!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

2021-03-17 Thread David Gifford 
I enjoyed this discussion! It would help to organize the colors by topic, 
then list them in order from general to specific.

*Global UI styles (i.e., page, tiddler, basic sidebar)*

Global backgrounds

   - General background
   - Page background
   - Sidebar background
   - Tiddler background
   - etc
   
Global foregrounds (text)

   - e.g., sitetitle, etc
   
Global links
Global borders

*Specific UI element styles*

Alerts
Buttons
Code
Dragger
Dropdowns
Dropzone
Modals
Tabs
etc
On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 10:52:59 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

> Referencing to Tweakable colour palette 
> 
>
> 1. Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/
> 2. Open the Advanced search  
> 
> 3. In the filter tab enter [[$:/palettes/Vanilla]indexes[]count[]]
>
> You see there are *132 *css selectors!
>
> Trying to create a new template is a BIG headache!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

2021-03-11 Thread Mohammad Rahmani 
Hi Chris,
 Thank you for your reply!
  Yes, I think so, getting to sort out the vanilla palette and try removing
extra selectors is a tough job!
 I like to know what Jeremy thinks about this.


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 5:26 AM clutterstack  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I very much agree that the palette is very uncomfortable to tweak
> selector-by-selector.
>
> I think this has grown organically and cleaning it up (or rethinking the
> impact of changing it) is a tedious job. What breaks if we don't have all
> the selectors currently in Vanilla? I haven't investigated (except
> occasionally by accident, ha).
>
> There are a bunch of "wikilist" ones at the end that I think are for
> TiddlyDesktop(?) and so add to the number without making the TW theming
> more complicated.
>
> I haven't looked (and I should, if I'm going to be playing with this sort
> of thing), but I would guess that there are themes out there that don't
> need Vanilla, with fewer selectors.
>
> I'm rambling. I agree with what you say. At the moment, it seems to me
> that grouping some selectors together, as I'm doing, but perhaps a bit less
> aggressively (or more aggressively?) will make it easier for users to make
> themes without making any changes to the core.
>
> Thomas Elmiger and Jeremy have evidently been thinking about colour and
> colour harmony tools for some time, from the thread you referenced
> (Jeremy's response and TT's link to telmiger's colour tools page).
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
> On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Referencing to Tweakable colour palette
>> 
>>
>> 1. Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/
>> 2. Open the Advanced search
>> 
>> 3. In the filter tab enter [[$:/palettes/Vanilla]indexes[]count[]]
>>
>> You see there are *132 *css selectors!
>>
>> Trying to create a new template is a BIG headache!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Color Template: Too many colors to be set

2021-03-11 Thread clutterstack 
Hi Mohammad,

I very much agree that the palette is very uncomfortable to tweak 
selector-by-selector.

I think this has grown organically and cleaning it up (or rethinking the 
impact of changing it) is a tedious job. What breaks if we don't have all 
the selectors currently in Vanilla? I haven't investigated (except 
occasionally by accident, ha).

There are a bunch of "wikilist" ones at the end that I think are for 
TiddlyDesktop(?) and so add to the number without making the TW theming 
more complicated. 

I haven't looked (and I should, if I'm going to be playing with this sort 
of thing), but I would guess that there are themes out there that don't 
need Vanilla, with fewer selectors.

I'm rambling. I agree with what you say. At the moment, it seems to me that 
grouping some selectors together, as I'm doing, but perhaps a bit less 
aggressively (or more aggressively?) will make it easier for users to make 
themes without making any changes to the core.

Thomas Elmiger and Jeremy have evidently been thinking about colour and 
colour harmony tools for some time, from the thread you referenced 
(Jeremy's response and TT's link to telmiger's colour tools page).

Best,
Chris

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:52:59 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Referencing to Tweakable colour palette 
> 
>
> 1. Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/
> 2. Open the Advanced search  
> 
> 3. In the filter tab enter [[$:/palettes/Vanilla]indexes[]count[]]
>
> You see there are *132 *css selectors!
>
> Trying to create a new template is a BIG headache!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>

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