Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-23 Thread 'Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki
seHi Richard,

True knowledge is to know how to find out! Thank you.

So many examples to look at. I was able to view the examples dated after 
2012 in Firefox. Maybe I do not understand but would it not be very time 
consuming to use that leaving less time to collect knowledge?


Birthe
 
Den tirsdag den 24. maj 2016 kl. 04.25.07 UTC+2 skrev RichardWilliamSmith:
>
> Very interesting, Mat - thanks for sharing.
>
> I looked and failed to find anything 'expensive' about it and the fact 
> that it doesn't work on Firefox at the moment would appear to be a bug.
>
> The guy who made it has his own company - http://moebio.com/
> His software is released open source - 
> http://moebiolabs.github.io/moebio_framework/
>
> "Moebio Framework is designed for modern browsers. Including recent 
>> versions of Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and Safari."
>
>  
> His 'personal knowledge base' uses a variety of this visualisation - 
> http://moebio.com/research/sevensets/ along with other effects, 
> his bookmarks are organised here - http://del.icio.us/moebio. Perhaps he 
> is inadvertently using an older version of his own libraries which is 
> broken on Firefox.
>
> Anyhow, I'm sure it's *theoretically* possible to use this to visualise 
> Tiddlers.
>
> Thanks again, Mat.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-23 Thread RichardWilliamSmith
Very interesting, Mat - thanks for sharing.

I looked and failed to find anything 'expensive' about it and the fact that 
it doesn't work on Firefox at the moment would appear to be a bug.

The guy who made it has his own company - http://moebio.com/
His software is released open source 
- http://moebiolabs.github.io/moebio_framework/

"Moebio Framework is designed for modern browsers. Including recent 
> versions of Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and Safari."

 
His 'personal knowledge base' uses a variety of this visualisation 
- http://moebio.com/research/sevensets/ along with other effects, 
his bookmarks are organised here - http://del.icio.us/moebio. Perhaps he is 
inadvertently using an older version of his own libraries which is broken 
on Firefox.

Anyhow, I'm sure it's *theoretically* possible to use this to visualise 
Tiddlers.

Thanks again, Mat.

Regards,
Richard


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Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-23 Thread Mat
@Danielo - this thread has gone totally bananas so I'm not sure what anyone 
is saying anymore. But I can sincerely say that I'm glad to see you on the 
boards again! 

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-23 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El domingo, 22 de mayo de 2016, 16:24:13 (UTC+2), Mat escribió:
>
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 2:18:55 PM UTC+2, Pit.W. wrote:
>>
>> Does it work with TW5?
>>
>
>
> It's not clear what you mean with "work" - but, regardless, that site is 
> just an external, totally different site. As far as I know it's not a 
> commercial software (or is it?).
>
> <:-)
>

I understood it as a joke. Something like: "This new electric car is cool, 
and works without gassoline which is the only thing thats gives sense to 
its existence, but, how can I make it work with gassoline?" 

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Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-22 Thread progetti
well. simply it does NOT RENDER. One can do NOTHING. is that clear enough?


On Sunday, 22 May 2016 16:24:13 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 2:18:55 PM UTC+2, Pit.W. wrote:
>>
>> Does it work with TW5?
>>
>
>
> It's not clear what you mean with "work" - but, regardless, that site is 
> just an external, totally different site. As far as I know it's not a 
> commercial software (or is it?).
>
> <:-)
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-22 Thread Mat
On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 2:18:55 PM UTC+2, Pit.W. wrote:
>
> Does it work with TW5?
>


It's not clear what you mean with "work" - but, regardless, that site is 
just an external, totally different site. As far as I know it's not a 
commercial software (or is it?).

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-22 Thread progetti
Pit.W.

It does NOT work on the Internet  well, so there is no way it will work 
with TW5. 

Mr Mat wasn't clear when he started this thread that its essentially Chrome 
specific. Everything that TW5 isn't.

josiah



On Sunday, 22 May 2016 14:18:55 UTC+2, Pit.W. wrote:
>
> Does it work with TW5?
>
> Am 22.05.2016 um 14:09 schrieb DaComboMan:
>
> Very expensive!
>
> A no brainer for me, way too much!!
>
> On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-5, prog...@assays.tv wrote: 
>>
>> Mat
>>
>> FYI, for years I have used TheBrain 
>>  WITH TW  
>> (using TheBrain's ability to open applications & pages). TheBrain gives me 
>> a visual overview. The TWs the data precisely organized.
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>> On Sunday, 22 May 2016 11:31:47 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote: 
>>>
>>> Mat
>>>
>>> Regarding TW, it is SO flexible that it gets overlooked in listings like 
>>> http://tinyurl.com/hpztq2e. If you take those exemplars, different 
>>> implementations of TW are able to do most of what they only individually 
>>> can. 
>>>
>>> The PROMOTION of TW is one of its WORST failings IMO.
>>>
>>> Josiah 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 21 May 2016 19:47:14 UTC+2, Mat wrote: 

 After having very recently discovered the term Personal Knowledge Base 
 ,
  
 (yes, surprising considering how this is probably THE most appropriate 
 "term" for describing TW - much better than "notebook" IMO), I just now 
 stumbled over this fascinating UI for one (atypical!) such; 

 http://intuitionanalytics.com/other/knowledgeDatabase/

 Wow! ...to say the least. While I assume whole the UI isn't everyone's 
 cup 'o tea, the accessibility to the content is very impressive. 


 Some perhaps easy-to-miss bits;

 The lines illustrate category unisons,

 The seeming "headlines" reading "OR filter" are really buttons to 
 toggle filter logic.

 I''m guessing the left-lower thing is a time line (with adjustable 
 span).


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Re: [tw] Re: [not TW] Noteworthy UI for Personal Knowledge Base

2016-05-22 Thread Pit.W.

Does it work with TW5?


Am 22.05.2016 um 14:09 schrieb DaComboMan:

Very expensive!

A no brainer for me, way too much!!

On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-5, prog...@assays.tv wrote:

Mat

FYI, for years I have used TheBrain

WITH TW  (using TheBrain's ability to open applications & pages).
TheBrain gives me a visual overview. The TWs the data precisely
organized.

Josiah

On Sunday, 22 May 2016 11:31:47 UTC+2, prog...@assays.tv wrote:

Mat

Regarding TW, it is SO flexible that it gets overlooked in
listings like http://tinyurl.com/hpztq2e. If you take those
exemplars, different implementations of TW are able to do most
of what they only individually can.

The PROMOTION of TW is one of its WORST failings IMO.

Josiah

On Saturday, 21 May 2016 19:47:14 UTC+2, Mat wrote:

After having very recently discovered the term Personal
Knowledge Base

,
(yes, surprising considering how this is probably THE most
appropriate "term" for describing TW - much better than
"notebook" IMO), I just now stumbled over this fascinating
UI for one (atypical!) such;

http://intuitionanalytics.com/other/knowledgeDatabase/


Wow! ...to say the least. While I assume whole the UI
isn't everyone's cup 'o tea, the accessibility to the
content is very impressive.


Some perhaps easy-to-miss bits;

The lines illustrate category unisons,

The seeming "headlines" reading "OR filter" are really
buttons to toggle filter logic.

I''m guessing the left-lower thing is a time line (with
adjustable span).


<:-)

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