Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Hi BJ, If you want to outline the steps that would be great. I'm sure others will be interested too! Mark On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 12:53:26 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote: It is possible to change this value by hacking the core plugin, if you feel adventurous I can walk you through the procedure. BJ On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:36:43 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dab1f058-2e26-4d29-8947-a6c571008725%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
# first backup your tiddlywiki # install the jsoneditor plugin from http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/ # find the $:/core tiddler and click on the edit icon # click on the '+' infront of the file icon within the jsonedtor, (now shows 'tiddlers' folder) click on the '+' in front of the tiddlers folder icon, (long list of all core shadow tiddlers appears), scroll down to $:/core/modules/startup/render.js and click on the '+' in front, then click on the icon in front of 'text' # scroll down to the bottom the the list to find the edit pane with 'value:' above it. # within this edit pane find the line 'var DRAFT_TIDDLER_TIMEOUT = 400;' and change the 400 to 4000. # click on the button 'Set value' located under the edit pane. # save the (now modified) s:/core tiddler # save your tw and reload On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 3:49:33 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: Hi BJ, If you want to outline the steps that would be great. I'm sure others will be interested too! Mark On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 12:53:26 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote: It is possible to change this value by hacking the core plugin, if you feel adventurous I can walk you through the procedure. BJ On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:36:43 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/561b861c-eeae-4c60-aa5f-80222b2e0b01%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
I've added a configuration tiddler for setting the draft tiddler typing timeout: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/b5ad255d0c7a78392460ddf537bd0cf3ac10fe50 http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease There's no UI at present. Best wishes Jeremy. On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Jed Carty inmyso...@gmail.com wrote: That looks like it would be pretty easy to add as a configuration option in the control panel. I don't think that would cause trouble, but I am not sure where in the control panel would be an appropriate place. We may want to add an advanced configuration tiddler somewhere. Probably only a link to it in the control panel so that it doesn't cause a lot of clutter but we can still have the options exposed to the user in a reasonable way. Mark, Thanks for the feedback! I have been running around getting ready to move so I am a bit busy. I haven't encountered the scrolling in full screen problem, I will look into it. I had the maximum width set on the menus because I made it on my desktop with a 24 monitor where it was too big when it was the full width, but I should change that since it won't be a problem on mobile devices. My little sister has my tablet for a bit so I won't be able to do any testing for a few days. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3428a2c0-2ee8-4dce-b065-3b04c308b05b%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3428a2c0-2ee8-4dce-b065-3b04c308b05b%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAPKKYJYRCYBY6LbK12pB34dAz9igBk1vd-dkDy3BMYNJZwsuzg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Hi BJ, Your instructions were easy to follow -- thanks! Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it improved things. Actually, it may have been a little better turning the suggested number down (like to 4). But either way there was still noticeable delay when inputting information, as compared to inputting on a similar web app (simplenotes). Frequently I find I'm typing ahead -- sometimes by half a line or more. So, there must be something else or some other variable also at play. Thanks! On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 10:21:21 AM UTC-7, BJ wrote: 1. first backup your tiddlywiki 2. install the jsoneditor plugin from http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/ 3. find the $:/core tiddler and click on the edit icon 4. click on the '+' infront of the file icon within the jsonedtor, (now shows 'tiddlers' folder) click on the '+' in front of the tiddlers folder icon, (long list of all core shadow tiddlers appears), scroll down to $:/core/modules/startup/render.js and click on the '+' in front, then click on the icon in front of 'text' 5. scroll down to the bottom the the list to find the edit pane with 'value:' above it. 6. within this edit pane find the line 'var DRAFT_TIDDLER_TIMEOUT = 400;' and change the 400 to 4000. 7. click on the button 'Set value' located under the edit pane. 8. save the (now modified) s:/core tiddler 9. save your tw and reload On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 3:49:33 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: Hi BJ, If you want to outline the steps that would be great. I'm sure others will be interested too! Mark On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 12:53:26 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote: It is possible to change this value by hacking the core plugin, if you feel adventurous I can walk you through the procedure. BJ On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:36:43 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/35d748de-51bc-4a28-b88b-11614fa8d15b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
It is possible to change this value by hacking the core plugin, if feel adventurous I can walk you through the procedure. BJ On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:36:43 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6b8a9ad2-ac9c-4165-857f-914c3299eeff%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Here's a short video demonstrating my little flownotes fastnewtiddler fork experiment: https://youtu.be/gDwl8TKPWnU I mean to add a button to hide/show all tools, so you're left with just a black canvas and green text - for distraction free writing... Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 21.21.28 UTC+2 skrev Måns: Hi Mark Jed already gave you some very good reasons why to try out his mobile theme. If you need a faster way to create text/tiddlers in tiddlywiki @mat started a fastnewtiddler project which allows you to create new tiddlers simply by writing a title and start typing text instantly because you are exposed to an edit template from the start. I made my own variant here: flownotes.tiddlyspot http://flownotes.tiddlyspot.com I have tested it on three different Android tablets and one smartphone also running Android. (LGg2). Writing in tiddlywiki - works just as fast as when I write a sms message - and seems to be faster than writing a message in the messenger app... I can't say that writing in a TW5 is slower than writing anything else on my mobile devices - sometimes I would say it's even faster than some of the installed apps... Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 19.36.43 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.: Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/59af1b19-5d81-4c77-84d7-fa454771d47c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e32e1311-b499-4a34-8c47-62cbe32aa466%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b82130e8-d246-48e6-9629-4e23cb7c4e3c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1fa707ca-9287-4179-a73d-7656d494b98e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Hi Mark Jed already gave you some very good reasons to try his mobile theme out. If you need a faster way to create text/tiddlers in tiddlywiki @mat started a fastnewtiddler project which allows you to create new tiddlers simply by writing a title and start typing text instantly because you are exposed to an edit template from the start. I made my own variant here: flownotes.tiddlyspot http://flownotes.tiddlyspot.com I have tested it on three different Android tablets and one smartphone also running Android. (LGg2). Writing in tiddlywiki - works just as fast as when I write a sms message - and seems to be faster than writing a message in the messenger app... I can't say that writing in a TW5 is slower than writing anything else on my mobile devices - sometimes I would say it's even faster than some of the installed apps... Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 19.36.43 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.: Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/81af263f-b0ff-4c2f-9ef6-2ba30cbabf0e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
I use Chrome on all my mobile devices... - occasionally I use Firefox - sometimes I use Andtidwiki+... Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 21.21.28 UTC+2 skrev Måns: Hi Mark Jed already gave you some very good reasons why to try out his mobile theme. If you need a faster way to create text/tiddlers in tiddlywiki @mat started a fastnewtiddler project which allows you to create new tiddlers simply by writing a title and start typing text instantly because you are exposed to an edit template from the start. I made my own variant here: flownotes.tiddlyspot http://flownotes.tiddlyspot.com I have tested it on three different Android tablets and one smartphone also running Android. (LGg2). Writing in tiddlywiki - works just as fast as when I write a sms message - and seems to be faster than writing a message in the messenger app... I can't say that writing in a TW5 is slower than writing anything else on my mobile devices - sometimes I would say it's even faster than some of the installed apps... Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 19.36.43 UTC+2 skrev Mark S.: Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what you really care about is performance. I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to increase that so that typing becomes reasonable. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote: Hi Danielo Not a fair/correct statement... @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. Check them out. Cheers Måns Mårtensson Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez: Hello Mark, Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2a6438df-77c7-4300-aa31-dbc0320e45c0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Was this option ever implemented, or is there some way I can change the delay by hand? Thanks! Mark On Saturday, July 26, 2014 at 1:18:59 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: There's no way to turn off the refresh cycle; it is intrinsic to TiddlyWiki's operation. But we could make the 400ms delay be configurable, and perhaps allow for it to be set to infinite whereby we'd defer the refresh cycle until done was clicked. The problem seems (a little subjective) to have become worse as the TW fills up, so it seems that it's doing something where it loops and looks at the entire contents of the TW. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/84705e48-292e-4279-be4b-8a063ab4ce03%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Hi Jeremy, The infinite delay option seems like a great idea! It seems to me that the world is moving away from desktops except for specific high-end applications. Thanks! Mark On Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:18:59 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: There's no way to turn off the refresh cycle; it is intrinsic to TiddlyWiki's operation. But we could make the 400ms delay be configurable, and perhaps allow for it to be set to infinite whereby we'd defer the refresh cycle until done was clicked. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?
Hi Mark Apparently when you are editing in a TW5 text field some sort of processing is going on with every keystroke. Each keypress causes the associated tiddler to be saved to the internal JavaScript tiddler store. That triggers the refresh cycle whereby the entire displayed tree of widgets is scanned for anything that needs to be rerendered in the light of the changes to the store. TiddlyWiki's architecture means that we can't store state in the DOM because the DOM might need to be refreshed at any time. So we can't just leave the partially edited tiddler in the HTML input element until done is clicked. There's a significant optimisation whereby the refresh cycle is deferred until the user stops typing for 400ms. The tiddler is still saved to the store on each keypress, so there's no risk of data loss. Not a problem on my desktop nor with short tiddlers, or empty TW's, but definitely a problem with longish tiddlers running on FireFox on Android. Yes, I've also seen poor performance on lower powered browsers. Is there a way to turn off this behavior? I'm guessing that it's reiterating in order to make real-time changes to titles, styles, and such. But I really only want the TW to update when I've clicked on the finish checkmark. There's no way to turn off the refresh cycle; it is intrinsic to TiddlyWiki's operation. But we could make the 400ms delay be configurable, and perhaps allow for it to be set to infinite whereby we'd defer the refresh cycle until done was clicked. The problem seems (a little subjective) to have become worse as the TW fills up, so it seems that it's doing something where it loops and looks at the entire contents of the TW. Some sidebar tabs are fairly expensive to refresh, notably recent. Best wishes Jeremy On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com wrote: He is not complaining about the losing focus issue. He is asking if some kind of processing happens on every keystroke. The answer is yes. Tiddlywiky re-evaluates all the displayed tiddlers on every keystroke. This is definitively a problem on limited resources machines. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.