Re: [twdev] Re: Transforming ascii text into embeddable images?

[TonyM]

Check out others here;

https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM#q=visual

I like Mermaid diagrams and flow charts 
 

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 4:28:14 AM UTC+11, stefano franchi wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for the suggestions. The Railroad plugin+library looks very 
> similar to what I'm trying to do. I will start by looking at that code.
>
> Cheers,
> Stefano
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 9:22 AM Jeremy Ruston  > wrote:
>
>> The Railroad plugin in the official plugin library is an example of 
>> reusing such a library -- in this case, the underlying library is 
>> https://github.com/tabatkins/railroad-diagrams
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/railroad
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
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>> On 29 Jan 2019, at 08:04, TonyM > 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Stephano
>>
>> Mario's answer is to the point and correct. But could I suggest before 
>> you do such a thing you look at what other visualisation tools are 
>> available in Tiddlywiki, from the railroad plugins and others that require 
>> simple text and translate it into other forms, usually graphics and 
>> visualisations. You could then print them to a PDF printer.
>>
>> If you are comfortable sharing the details of "your a few lines of Ascii 
>> into an image" tool perhaps there is an equivalent already available.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:23:46 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 12:58:17 AM UTC+1, stefano franchi wrote:
>>>
 First newbie question: Am I right that I would need to write a new 
 widget plugin to achieve what I have in mind?

>>>
>>> yes
>>>
>>>
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Re: [twdev] Announcing the "innerwiki" plugin

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

That is so easy. Thanks.

I will see if I can achieve marvellous things and share back.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 12:00:12 AM UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Tony 
>
> > That is exciting, but could you point me to how I can do this, or even 
> sufficent info for self study? I would like to use and document this since 
> it is not suggested in relation to tiddlywiki and could provide some 
> solutions to some of our lasting problems and expand tiddlywiki use and 
> audience. 
>
> Some of the topics you’ve raised will be hard to explore without getting 
> into JavaScript. 
>
> To get you started, here’s how to make an iframe from an existing tiddler: 
>
>  [[test.html]get[text]encodeuricomponent[]addprefix[data:text/html;charset=utf-8,]]
>  
> }}} width=100% height=400/> 
>
> Where test.html contains: 
>
>  
>  
>  
>  
> An HTML page 
>  
>  
> An HTML page 
> This is an HTML page. 
>  
>  
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy 
>
>
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > Tony 
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Re: [twdev] Re: Transforming ascii text into embeddable images?

[stefano franchi]

Thanks to all for the suggestions. The Railroad plugin+library looks very
similar to what I'm trying to do. I will start by looking at that code.

Cheers,
Stefano


On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 9:22 AM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> The Railroad plugin in the official plugin library is an example of
> reusing such a library -- in this case, the underlying library is
> https://github.com/tabatkins/railroad-diagrams
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/railroad
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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> On 29 Jan 2019, at 08:04, TonyM  wrote:
>
> Stephano
>
> Mario's answer is to the point and correct. But could I suggest before you
> do such a thing you look at what other visualisation tools are available in
> Tiddlywiki, from the railroad plugins and others that require simple text
> and translate it into other forms, usually graphics and visualisations. You
> could then print them to a PDF printer.
>
> If you are comfortable sharing the details of "your a few lines of Ascii
> into an image" tool perhaps there is an equivalent already available.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:23:46 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 12:58:17 AM UTC+1, stefano franchi wrote:
>>
>>> First newbie question: Am I right that I would need to write a new
>>> widget plugin to achieve what I have in mind?
>>>
>>
>> yes
>>
>>
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Re: [twdev] Announcing the "innerwiki" plugin

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Tony

> That is exciting, but could you point me to how I can do this, or even 
> sufficent info for self study? I would like to use and document this since it 
> is not suggested in relation to tiddlywiki and could provide some solutions 
> to some of our lasting problems and expand tiddlywiki use and audience.

Some of the topics you’ve raised will be hard to explore without getting into 
JavaScript.

To get you started, here’s how to make an iframe from an existing tiddler:



Where test.html contains:





An HTML page


An HTML page
This is an HTML page.



Best wishes

Jeremy


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Re: [twdev] Announcing the "innerwiki" plugin

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Thanks Jeremy,

That is exciting, but could you point me to how I can do this, or even 
sufficent info for self study? I would like to use and document this since it 
is not suggested in relation to tiddlywiki and could provide some solutions to 
some of our lasting problems and expand tiddlywiki use and audience.

Thanks
Tony

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Re: [twdev] Announcing the "innerwiki" plugin

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Tony

I don't think these ideas are related to the innerwiki plugin so much as the 
underlying iframe primitive. Generally, there has been extensive exploration of 
using iframes as a means of integration in the browser; and iframes are widely 
used for advertisements and for embedded widgets, and hence the techniques 
you're interested in exploring are pretty widely documented/understood.

Generally speaking, though, integration via iframes is inferior to integration 
via the server. If you've got a server available, then things like handing off 
to a PHP login script in a separate window are pretty trivial without needing 
iframes. Iframes really shine when one doesn't have the option of a server.

Anyhow, via the experimental single tiddler view, the server already has the 
ability to host self-contained HTML apps as single tiddlers. And ordinary 
wikitext can freely create iframes and inject content into them, so I think you 
can experiment along the lines you describe.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



> I am suggesting what If I have a plain text tiddler, that contains a HTML 
> page including head and body, javascript, including libraries etc... The kind 
> of thing I may find available in a javascript library for special features or 
> a nice landing page layout (It is not used for anything in the parent). It is 
> merely stored in the parent wiki. Lets us call it the HTML-Tool ,Then we 
> could do one of two things;
> 
> Present the HTML-Tool at an address such as https:/hostname.com/tiddlername 
> similar to the single Tiddler view, but simply deliver it, as it is, to the 
> browser, as if it were a standalone html+ file.
> Generate an Inner (perhaps not innerwiki but innerhtml or innerpage) that is 
> an iframe to the aforementioned HTML-Tool without any Tiddlywiki just 
> rendered as in the first case.
> In both circumstances it would be nice if some rudimentary string could be 
> passed to and from such HTML-Tool, perhaps that looks like a json tiddler in 
> the parent wiki, and json file in the HTML-Tool?
> 
> It is in someways taking the single file concept further allowing tiddlywiki 
> to host other content in its server, a bit like the 5.1.18 feature Adds 
> support for serving static file attachments over HTTP)
> 
> I could see myself hosting in my TiddlyWiki a html page that lets people 
> register as a member in my wordpress member site. No need to manage a 
> separate file, it lives in my wiki, but is served by the tiddlywiki server.
> 
> Regards
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Re: [twdev] Re: Transforming ascii text into embeddable images?

[Jeremy Ruston]

The Railroad plugin in the official plugin library is an example of reusing 
such a library -- in this case, the underlying library is 
https://github.com/tabatkins/railroad-diagrams

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/railroad

Best wishes

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> On 29 Jan 2019, at 08:04, TonyM  wrote:
> 
> Stephano
> 
> Mario's answer is to the point and correct. But could I suggest before you do 
> such a thing you look at what other visualisation tools are available in 
> Tiddlywiki, from the railroad plugins and others that require simple text and 
> translate it into other forms, usually graphics and visualisations. You could 
> then print them to a PDF printer.
> 
> If you are comfortable sharing the details of "your a few lines of Ascii into 
> an image" tool perhaps there is an equivalent already available.
> 
> Regards
> Tony
> 
>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:23:46 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 12:58:17 AM UTC+1, stefano franchi wrote:
>>> First newbie question: Am I right that I would need to write a new widget 
>>> plugin to achieve what I have in mind?
>> 
>> yes
>> 
>> 
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[twdev] Re: Transforming ascii text into embeddable images?

[TonyM]

Stephano

Mario's answer is to the point and correct. But could I suggest before you 
do such a thing you look at what other visualisation tools are available in 
Tiddlywiki, from the railroad plugins and others that require simple text 
and translate it into other forms, usually graphics and visualisations. You 
could then print them to a PDF printer.

If you are comfortable sharing the details of "your a few lines of Ascii 
into an image" tool perhaps there is an equivalent already available.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:23:46 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 12:58:17 AM UTC+1, stefano franchi wrote:
>
>> First newbie question: Am I right that I would need to write a new widget 
>> plugin to achieve what I have in mind?
>>
>
> yes
>
>
>

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