Re: [twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[Simon Huber]

>
> Just to clarify, I'm all in favour of having find-in-page in 
> TiddlyDesktop, and welcome any help. I think Simon's approach is a 
> promising one: to make a find-in-page that works in a standalone TW. The 
> other approach is to extend TiddlyDesktop itself with the functionality.
>

That's cool, thanks Jeremy!

Extending TiddlyDesktop itself is cumbersome I found. On the nw.js repo 
there are some questions about it, but it doesn't seem to be clear if it 
works using webview or how to do it ... so I thought maybe it's better 
doing it this way ...

best wishes back
 

>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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> On 27 Feb 2019, at 16:23, Simon Huber  > wrote:
>
> Simon Huber wrote:
>>>
>>> I've created this little demo here: 
>>> http://find-on-page-test.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> It allows to find words on the page using a very simple action-widget
>>>
>>>  what I've noticed is that matches on tags are found but the 
>>> selection isn't visible.
>>>
>>  
>> Right. I'm doubtful its workable without visual feedback. I tried. I 
>> failed.
>>
>> Josiah
>>
>
> I have a solution for that, it's just not updated online. The problem is 
> that elements that are draggable (that have the draggable attr. ="true") 
> cannot be found.
>
> My solution is to change the TagTemplate and put a condition inside that  
> shows tags without dragFilter (which removes the draggable attr.) when the 
> search panel is open.
> That would probably work best when it would be a popup, so the condition 
> would be: when that popup state tiddler is present, no dragFilter for tags.
> problem: we cannot create popups using keyboard shortcuts, which would be 
> very useful here.
> solution: I could add my action-popup widget here
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Re: [twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[Jeremy Ruston]

Just to clarify, I'm all in favour of having find-in-page in TiddlyDesktop, and 
welcome any help. I think Simon's approach is a promising one: to make a 
find-in-page that works in a standalone TW. The other approach is to extend 
TiddlyDesktop itself with the functionality.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 27 Feb 2019, at 16:23, Simon Huber  wrote:
> 
>>> Simon Huber wrote:
>>> I've created this little demo here: http://find-on-page-test.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> 
>>> It allows to find words on the page using a very simple action-widget
>>> 
>>>  what I've noticed is that matches on tags are found but the selection 
>>> isn't visible.
>>  
>> Right. I'm doubtful its workable without visual feedback. I tried. I failed.
>> 
>> Josiah
> 
> I have a solution for that, it's just not updated online. The problem is that 
> elements that are draggable (that have the draggable attr. ="true") cannot be 
> found.
> 
> My solution is to change the TagTemplate and put a condition inside that  
> shows tags without dragFilter (which removes the draggable attr.) when the 
> search panel is open.
> That would probably work best when it would be a popup, so the condition 
> would be: when that popup state tiddler is present, no dragFilter for tags.
> problem: we cannot create popups using keyboard shortcuts, which would be 
> very useful here.
> solution: I could add my action-popup widget here
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[twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[Simon Huber]

>
> Simon Huber wrote:
>>
>> I've created this little demo here: 
>> http://find-on-page-test.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> It allows to find words on the page using a very simple action-widget
>>
>>  what I've noticed is that matches on tags are found but the 
>> selection isn't visible.
>>
>  
> Right. I'm doubtful its workable without visual feedback. I tried. I 
> failed.
>
> Josiah
>

I have a solution for that, it's just not updated online. The problem is 
that elements that are draggable (that have the draggable attr. ="true") 
cannot be found.

My solution is to change the TagTemplate and put a condition inside that  
shows tags without dragFilter (which removes the draggable attr.) when the 
search panel is open.
That would probably work best when it would be a popup, so the condition 
would be: when that popup state tiddler is present, no dragFilter for tags.
problem: we cannot create popups using keyboard shortcuts, which would be 
very useful here.
solution: I could add my action-popup widget here

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[twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Simon Huber wrote:
>
> I've created this little demo here: 
> http://find-on-page-test.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> It allows to find words on the page using a very simple action-widget
>
>  what I've noticed is that matches on tags are found but the selection 
> isn't visible.
>
 
Right. I'm doubtful its workable without visual feedback. I tried. I failed.

Josiah

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[twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Just NOTING TiddlyDesktop is an awesome install at 250Mb before you even do 
anything.

On Wednesday, 27 February 2019 14:27:01 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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> Back to topic ... I'll experiment with your search tool in TD and report 
> back.
>
> A dopo
> Josiah
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[twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Back to topic ... I'll experiment with your search tool in TD and report 
back.

A dopo
Josiah

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[twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Anyone who wants to help JR on TD gets my vote. 

Its a superb solution for desktop users.

MY main concern has been to encourage *a fully portable build* of it (i.e. 
that you can use relative addressing to wiki). That would permit 
repackaging of the app with content wiki. I would definitely use it  ...

Josiah

On Wednesday, 27 February 2019 13:33:04 UTC+1, Simon Huber wrote:
>
> Simon,
>>
>> Jeremy is the author of tiddlydesktop. It uses a cutdown browser to 
>> opperate, I know he was reluctant to add more and more such that it would 
>> become a browser but you may be able to persuade him to add this if its 
>> practical to do so in a future release.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>
> Hi Tony, yeah I know about this little interest conflict. But 
> search-on-page is not a browser-only thing. An address bar would be I 
> guess, this is just functionality for the notebook/application itself 
>

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[twdev] Re: a video widget that plays videos without interruption

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Much better. But I'm still not able to stream the 40 versions of Purcell's 
famous Lament in a row:-)

Yours
Ever hopeful :-)

On Sunday, 24 February 2019 16:40:18 UTC+1, Simon Huber wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> I've created a much better working Demo: 
> http://videoplayerwidget.tiddlyspot.com
>
> Its code is clean(er) :) ... it uses PR #3798 , the part that adds 
> resizeListeners only + there's no complicated widget-id anymore
>
> have a nice weekend,
> Simon
>

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[twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[Simon Huber]

>
> Simon,
>
> Jeremy is the author of tiddlydesktop. It uses a cutdown browser to 
> opperate, I know he was reluctant to add more and more such that it would 
> become a browser but you may be able to persuade him to add this if its 
> practical to do so in a future release.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

Hi Tony, yeah I know about this little interest conflict. But 
search-on-page is not a browser-only thing. An address bar would be I 
guess, this is just functionality for the notebook/application itself 

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[twdev] Re: a video widget that plays videos without interruption

[Simon Huber]

>
> Simon,
>
> Perhaps off topic but I wonder if we could timestamp points in time on a 
> video and trigger a responce in tiddlywiki at that time? Perhaps in 
> reverse, search tiddlers that then jump to a point in time in a video.
>
> I have some compelling applications if this were possible.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>

Hi Tony, the root of this is that videos embedded within tiddlers stop 
playing when the DOM changes, like when I open a new tiddler above the one 
with the playing video

the idea is to append the video to the page, put a placeholder into the 
tiddler and match both positions. In my example I'm overdoing it to the 
point that the video refreshes every time the placeholder refreshes which 
is unintended ...

for something like this we'll have to focus on this problem first

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[twdev] Re: rudimentary find-on-page support for TD

[TonyM]

Simon,

Jeremy is the author of tiddlydesktop. It uses a cutdown browser to opperate, I 
know he was reluctant to add more and more such that it would become a browser 
but you may be able to persuade him to add this if its practical to do so in a 
future release.

Regards
Tony

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