Re: [time-nuts] PCB for frequency dividers

2008-07-30 Thread Jeroen Bastemeijer
Dear Dave,

If there is one board left, I would like to buy and try one. Shipping 
will be to the Netherlands, so that won't be a problem.

Could you send met the BOM and the circuit diagram? Thank you,

Best regards, Jeroen

David C. Partridge schreef:
 I've taken a bit of a risk and ordered 20 boards.  Rash in extreme or what!

 What does this mean?   It means that I can sell the boards at a price of
 GBP20 each (about USD40).

 I will not request $$$ or ship any boards until I have made up my own first
 to confirm everything is OK.

 This won't be until end August as some parts are on back-order with Mouser.

 Please email me direct if you would like to pre-order any.

 If you would like a copy of the circuit diagram, or the BOM (.xls file) just
 shout (it's complete bar the thumbwheel switch, and wire).

 Dave


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Re: [time-nuts] PCB for frequency dividers

2008-07-30 Thread J. L. Trantham
David,

I am interested in your PCB and frequency divider project.  How can I
contact you directly?

Joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David C. Partridge
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:12 AM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PCB for frequency dividers

I've taken a bit of a risk and ordered 20 boards.  Rash in extreme or what!

What does this mean?   It means that I can sell the boards at a price of
GBP20 each (about USD40).

I will not request $$$ or ship any boards until I have made up my own first
to confirm everything is OK.

This won't be until end August as some parts are on back-order with Mouser.

Please email me direct if you would like to pre-order any.

If you would like a copy of the circuit diagram, or the BOM (.xls file) just
shout (it's complete bar the thumbwheel switch, and wire).

Dave


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Re: [time-nuts] Leap Second Pending

2008-07-30 Thread d . seiter
The mechanical 
 clepsydra shown overleaf is simple in operation. The cylindrical 
 vessel is slowly filled with water and a float with a stem and rack 
 engages the wheel to which the hour hand is attached. As the vessel 
 fills so the float rises and the hour hand is made to rotate. When 
 the vessel is full it is emtied (sic) and the process starts over 
 again. While this type of clock is spectacular and one would like 
 to think it is of ancient origin, it has to be recorded that no 
 ancient example has been handed down to us.

Actually, if I'm visualizing this correctly, a similar design was built by the 
ancient Greeks. I recall a article in National Geographic about the Tower of 
the Winds (or similar).  The source of the water stream was a tank that 
constantly overflowed, maintaining constant water pressure.  There was little 
to go on as far as actual physical evidence, so maybe it was wishful thinking 
and has been debunked since?

-Dave
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[time-nuts] What is a Time-Nut grade Zero Crossing Circuit?

2008-07-30 Thread Bob Paddock

Can you point me to a Time-Nut grade Zero Crossing
circuit that I can feed a Actel Igloo FPGA (It doesn't
like sine waves)?

For the sake of discussion the source signal
is a ThunderBolt at 10 MHz.

The FPGA is rated to 350 MHz, so no need to have
a 5. GHz Zero Crossing circuit. ;-)

The FPGA has several interface styles,
so we are not limited to just TTL or CMOS.

Suggestions?


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Re: [time-nuts] Leap Second Pending

2008-07-30 Thread Chuck Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The mechanical
 clepsydra shown overleaf is simple in operation. The cylindrical vessel is 
 slowly filled with water and a float
 with a stem and rack engages the wheel to which the hour hand is attached. 
 As the vessel fills so the float rises
 and the hour hand is made to rotate. When the vessel is full it is emtied 
 (sic) and the process starts over again.
 While this type of clock is spectacular and one would like to think it is of 
 ancient origin, it has to be recorded
 that no ancient example has been handed down to us.
 
 Actually, if I'm visualizing this correctly, a similar design was built by 
 the ancient Greeks. I recall a article in
 National Geographic about the Tower of the Winds (or similar).  The source 
 of the water stream was a tank that
 constantly overflowed, maintaining constant water pressure.  There was little 
 to go on as far as actual physical
 evidence, so maybe it was wishful thinking and has been debunked since?

DeCarle was an old guy in the 1960's.

What he is referring to is a picture in the encyclopedia of a clock that
has a float attached to a rack that drives a pinion attached to an hour
hand.  The water is directed into the tank, and as the tank fills, the
hour hand rotates indicating the time.  When the tank is full, a valve
is tripped letting the water out of the tank, and the cycle repeats.

He acknowledges that there were clepsydra's used in ancient cultures,
just not one as cool as the one shown in the picture.
 
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Re: [time-nuts] What is a Time-Nut grade Zero Crossing Circuit?

2008-07-30 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Bob,
 
since the sine wave is symmetric, you can use a simple LVC type CMOS  
inverter with 1M Ohm resistor from input to output, and a 100nF cap (or the  
largest 
COG cap you can find) from the input of the inverter to the sine wave  output.
 
You may also want to load the sine wave output with 50 Ohms, as required by  
the source.
 
This works very well. Don't use a schmitt trigger inverter  though.
 
bye,
Said
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2008 17:35:46 Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Can  you point me to a Time-Nut grade Zero Crossing
circuit that I can feed a  Actel Igloo FPGA (It doesn't
like sine waves)?

For the sake of  discussion the source signal
is a ThunderBolt at 10 MHz.

The FPGA is  rated to 350 MHz, so no need to have
a 5. GHz Zero Crossing  circuit. ;-)

The FPGA has several interface styles,
so we are not  limited to just TTL or  CMOS.

Suggestions?





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[time-nuts] Complete Lucent RFTG setup on eBay

2008-07-30 Thread christopher hoover
There have been lots of messages about how the Lucent RFTG disciplined
oscillator bits work in a system.

 

This, from its appearance, is the entire set up with all necessary cables
and proper connections:

 

1 - Lucent RFTGm-II-Rb 15MHz Frequency Reference with 10MHz output
1 - Lucent RFTGm-II-XO 15MHz GPS Disciplined Frequency Reference
Interconnection cable set and mounting frame

 

eBay item # 300244547378

 

(This is not my auction; I have no relation to the seller.)

 

The (quite detailed) pictures alone are worth a look if you are interested
in this gear.

 

-ch

 

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Re: [time-nuts] What is a Time-Nut grade Zero Crossing Circuit?

2008-07-30 Thread Bruce Griffiths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Bob,
  
 since the sine wave is symmetric, you can use a simple LVC type CMOS  
 inverter with 1M Ohm resistor from input to output, and a 100nF cap (or the  
 largest 
 COG cap you can find) from the input of the inverter to the sine wave  output.
  
 You may also want to load the sine wave output with 50 Ohms, as required by  
 the source.
  
 This works very well. Don't use a schmitt trigger inverter  though.
  
 bye,
 Said
  
  
   
Said

Noise is lower if you use a pair of resistor to bias the inverter input 
at the threshold rather than the feedback resistor.
A feedback circuit can be added to stabilise the output duty cycle.

If you want subpicosecond jitter you need to use a different 
device/logic family.

Bruce

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Re: [time-nuts] Complete Lucent RFTG setup on eBay

2008-07-30 Thread Had

I have no connection with this seller, but have done business, 
several times in the past, and consider them to be very reputable.

Had, K7MLR
---

At 07:54 PM 7/30/2008, you wrote:
There have been lots of messages about how the Lucent RFTG disciplined
oscillator bits work in a system.



This, from its appearance, is the entire set up with all necessary cables
and proper connections:



1 - Lucent RFTGm-II-Rb 15MHz Frequency Reference with 10MHz output
1 - Lucent RFTGm-II-XO 15MHz GPS Disciplined Frequency Reference
Interconnection cable set and mounting frame



eBay item # 300244547378



(This is not my auction; I have no relation to the seller.)



The (quite detailed) pictures alone are worth a look if you are interested
in this gear.



-ch



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