Re: [time-nuts] List Threading Behavior?

2011-10-26 Thread jim s
If one is using thunderbird as below, it is just as easy to right click 
the time nuts address element at the top of the message and reply do a 
"compose message"


If using web based email, the reply-to and change the subject is 
probably the easiest since there is no way to do the above action.  It 
is interesting that the examples below are from thunderbird.

Jim

On 10/26/2011 10:53 AM, Ziggy wrote:
The other way that threads get broken is by thread 'hijacking'. If I 
were to hit reply to any message on this thread, change the subject 
and delete the body, I could write a 'new' message. Threaded clients 
would see that new message as part of the existing thread, but others 
would simply see a new message with a new subject. It's  bad form to 
use 'reply' and change the subject. If you're going to change the 
subject, start with a new and blank message.


Ziggy

On 10/25/2011 05:38 PM, Justin Pinnix wrote:

Looking at recent instances of thread-breaking tells a different story:

X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
Thunderbird/7.0.1
  User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
rv:1.9.2.21)

Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/3.1.13

While these mailers are all running on Microsoft OSes, none of them are
actual Microsoft products.




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Re: [time-nuts] FS: HP 59309A

2011-10-26 Thread Bert, VE2ZAZ
Unit has been sold.

Thanks,

Bert, VE2ZAZ




>
>From: "Bert, VE2ZAZ" 
>To: "time-nuts@febo.com" 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:30:08 PM
>Subject: FS: HP 59309A
>
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>
>Currently only for the Time-Nuts, I have an HP59309A HP-IB Digital Clock for 
>sale. This one has Option H04, otherwise known as Option 001, which offers a 
>Julian Calendar (0-366 day-of-year indication) instead of the regular 
>Month/Day.
>
>
>The unit is functional, clean and in quite good shape, with the expected light 
>scratches and blemishes on the top/bottom/sides typical of a used unit. The 
>front is pretty clean. Price is $90 + shipping. Please contact me directly. 
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Bert, VE2ZAZ
>
>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] List Threading Behavior?

2011-10-26 Thread Ziggy
The other way that threads get broken is by thread 'hijacking'. If I 
were to hit reply to any message on this thread, change the subject and 
delete the body, I could write a 'new' message. Threaded clients would 
see that new message as part of the existing thread, but others would 
simply see a new message with a new subject. It's  bad form to use 
'reply' and change the subject. If you're going to change the subject, 
start with a new and blank message.


Ziggy

On 10/25/2011 05:38 PM, Justin Pinnix wrote:

Looking at recent instances of thread-breaking tells a different story:

X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
Thunderbird/7.0.1
  User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21)
Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/3.1.13

While these mailers are all running on Microsoft OSes, none of them are
actual Microsoft products.




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Re: [time-nuts] HP5370B - Err 02

2011-10-26 Thread Bob Smither

Dave M wrote:



You can download a searchable manual for your 5370B from 
http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=HP_Agilent.

It's a rather large download, but it's a good scan with searchable text.

David


Excellent - thanks David.

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Re: [time-nuts] FS: HP 59309A

2011-10-26 Thread Mark Spencer
Bert, if the unit is still for sale I'm interested but I do have a few 
questions.

How would you like to be paid, do you have a preferred method of shipping ?

Do you have a sense as to what the shipping costs would be to BC in Canada ?

Best regards
Mark Spencer
VE7AFZ

--- On Tue, 10/25/11, Bert, VE2ZAZ  wrote:

> From: Bert, VE2ZAZ 
> Subject: [time-nuts] FS: HP 59309A
> To: "time-nuts@febo.com" 
> Received: Tuesday, October 25, 2011, 9:30 PM
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Currently only for the Time-Nuts, I have an HP59309A HP-IB
> Digital Clock for sale. This one has Option H04, otherwise
> known as Option 001, which offers a Julian Calendar (0-366
> day-of-year indication) instead of the regular Month/Day.
> 
> The unit is functional, clean and in quite good shape, with
> the expected light scratches and blemishes on the
> top/bottom/sides typical of a used unit. The front is pretty
> clean. Price is $90 + shipping. Please contact me directly.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bert, VE2ZAZ
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Re: [time-nuts] FS: HP 59309A

2011-10-26 Thread Dan Rae

On 10/26/2011 5:27 AM, SAL CORNACCHIA wrote:

Hi Don,
  
Can You share with me and the group on making the 10 MHz input adapital.



I've no idea what that even means, but the "normal" 59309 has a switch 
inside that selects the external reference from 10, 5 or 1 MHz.  I've 
been feeding one from a gps for years.


It also has a front panel switch under the cover that selects leap 
years, to keep the calendar correct.


Dan

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Re: [time-nuts] HP5370B - Err 02

2011-10-26 Thread Dave M

Rex wrote:

Bob,

You did the opposite of the thread splitting, just discussed; you
tagged your message onto an unrelated thread.


Ummm - I see that now.  My apologies.  I don't usually use a threaded
display.  Clearly just removing the subject doesn't reset the thread.


Manuals for the 5370 are not hard to find. From a service manual I
found:

3-22. Error messages
  Error 2  -  Data out of range (overrange).


I have a service manual, but could not find the errors listing in it
(it
is a scan, not searchable).

Thanks to all who identified the error for me.


You can download a searchable manual for your 5370B from 
http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=HP_Agilent.

It's a rather large download, but it's a good scan with searchable text.

David
dgminala at mediacombb dot net




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Re: [time-nuts] FS: HP 59309A

2011-10-26 Thread SAL CORNACCHIA
Hi Don,
 
Can You share with me and the group on making the 10 MHz input adapital.
 
Thank You
 
Best regards,
Sal C. Cornacchia
Electronic RF Microwave Engineer (Ret.)




From: Don Latham 
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:07:48 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FS: HP 59309A

in addition, they are  readily adaptible to 10 MHz input using the
external power bnc and a cmos decimal counter chip.
Don

J. Forster
> A look at the manual implies that it can be switch set for 365 or 366
> days.
>
> A nice unit, but I've already got one.
>
> Best,
>
> -John
>
> ==-
>
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Currently only for the Time-Nuts, I have an HP59309A HP-IB Digital
>> Clock
>> for sale. This one has Option H04, otherwise known as Option 001,
>> which
>> offers a Julian Calendar (0-366 day-of-year indication) instead of the
>> regular Month/Day.
>>
>> The unit is functional, clean and in quite good shape, with the
>> expected
>> light scratches and blemishes on the top/bottom/sides typical of a
>> used
>> unit. The front is pretty clean. Price is $90 + shipping. Please
>> contact
>> me directly.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bert, VE2ZAZ
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Re: [time-nuts] 8560E DC Coupling phase noise measurements

2011-10-26 Thread Loïc MOREAU
Thanks, everything is clear now.

 I will have a try with a pair of  Schottky diodes as 10 db give 3.16 
attenuation and so no enough for a +-15V rails , I want to be sure ;=) )
 
Regards
Loïc



-Message d'origine-
De : time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] De la part 
de John Miles
Envoyé : mardi 25 octobre 2011 22:55
À : 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Objet : Re: [time-nuts] 8560E DC Coupling phase noise measurements


> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts- boun...@febo.com] 
> On Behalf Of Loïc MOREAU
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:01 PM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] 8560E DC Coupling phase noise measurements
> 
> Hi,
> In the process of measuring phase noise with a 'demphano' gear,  I am 
> a
bit
> reluctant to connect  my 8560E in DC mode to get 30 Hz low frequency
> sensitivity:  the SA input is very sensitive to DC voltage and may  be 
> destroyed by a voltage larger than 200mV.
> 
>  So with a LNA having no blocking DC output I would like to know the 
> best way to protect the SA.
> 
> I suppose that putting a 100µF capacitor between LNA and SA is not 
> especially a good idea as a charged capacitor to DC rail may have the 
> same effect that no caps at all.
> 
> I am looking for some advice in that domain to pursue phase noise 
> measurements,  for now I connect the SA with a caution after PLL lock 
> and measuring the SA input with a DC voltmeter before switching to DC 
> SA input but this mode of operation is a bit frightening.
> 
> Any idea ?

The 200 mV limit is only with 0 dB of RF attenuation.  With a quadrature PLL 
and LNA, you don't need to use 0 dB.  20 dB is probably OK, and if not, you can 
make up for it with more gain.

A pair of back-to-back Schottky diodes would be another alternative. 

-- john



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