Re: [time-nuts] ngTADD-1
On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: There are optical links that are better than your typical opto coupler. I have not seen many that are good to -170 dbc. Rather than for a 10 MHz signal, I might prefer an optical link rather than differential for a PPS signal. Could you recommend any optical links with jitter of about 1 ns? Kevin ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster. You as a selling would NOT have to worry Pay Pal could hand the taxes for you. Sellers would not have to do much. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act... and freq standard box
What I read is that it is for merchants who exceed a million dollars a year. So, if it is determined it is each seller that is responsible, it would only apply to those doing greater than a million in sales (not many). If however it is determined that it is ebay who is the merchant, then they would have to handle the tax collection and payment and it would simply be added to the final auction and maybe plus shipping amount (depending on the state and what is taxable). This is the most likely scenario. It is more complex than just what tax rate to use as each state taxes different things. For example, some states do not tax clothing, others do, and some others only if the item exceeds some cost. As I mentioned in another message there are third party services which keep track of all this already. For a site like ebay it is complex but not daunting task to set that up. I will spend my time worrying about how I am building my combo Rb and Thunderbolt box. I have a TADD-1 amp in there, pulse stretchers to drive front panel 1 PPS live indicators, a serial to IP adapter to give the box network connectivity (mainly for the Thunderbolt but switchable to the FE-5680A). I have a fan setup in an isolated section (it is built into a 2U rack box) for the TB so LH can help with temperature, but I'm not sure if I should use a computer to discipline the Rb or just set it close manually every so often. And which should I feed into the TADD dist amp? The Rb? Initially I'm just putting a switch in so I can select. I'd love to hear comments on this. I can post photos of where I am at in the construction if anyone is interested. Peter On 4/23/2013 6:51 PM, Tom Knox wrote: The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster. Thomas Knox To: time-nuts@febo.com From: johncr...@aol.com Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a use tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced. You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too bad: http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/ If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped. One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing. -73 john k6iql ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3162/5768 - Release Date: 04/23/13 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
And the funny thing is that there is already legislation in place to deal with this. If an online vendor has a corporate office, a warehouse or a brick and mortar retail store in State XX (that has a sales tax), AND if an online customer places an order to be shipped to an address in State XX, the sales tax for State XX has to be charged. I live in WA State and buy online from Amazon (corporate headquarters as well as warehouse) and I get charged the WA State sales tax. I buy online from Fry's (just a brick and mortar store) and get charged sales tax. Parts Express (great company) - no presence in WA State so no sales tax. If I walked into Parts Express's corporate headquarters in Ohio and purchased some stuff, I could show my WA State drivers license and be exempt from the Ohio sales tax. Why is this any different from an online purchase? Starve the beast -- it is doing nothing good for us. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 21:38 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster. You as a selling would NOT have to worry Pay Pal could hand the taxes for you. Sellers would not have to do much. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX
How do I recognize a wear out? Does the receiver send an error message every time I try to change the NVRAM or do I have to ask it? Volker Am 24.04.2013 00:08, schrieb Mark C. Stephens: Thanks Ulrich, Much Appreciated, prefer to use your software. Thanks Again, mark -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM To: Time nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX Gentlemen, due to the discussion that evolved concerning Z38XX i looked up the sources and found that indeed every time the current time is read using a :PTIM:TCOD? a :PTIM:TCOD:FORM F2 is sent in advance to make the receiver answer in the format that Z38XX needs. I have not been aware that this could lead to NVRAM wear out but have been thinking this simply sets the format of the next output. I have changed the software so that the FORM F2 command is now only written once after program start. The software can be downloaded from the usual place but I have currently no time to test it. My own experiences with NV memory that can only be written for a limited number of times (EEPROM on ATMEL processors) indicates that a clever made NV writing routine would first compare the NV contents to what shall be written on a byte by byte base and write only changed bytes. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] ngTADD-1
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:08:28 -0600 Kevin Rosenberg ke...@rosenberg.net wrote: On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: There are optical links that are better than your typical opto coupler. I have not seen many that are good to -170 dbc. Rather than for a 10 MHz signal, I might prefer an optical link rather than differential for a PPS signal. Could you recommend any optical links with jitter of about 1 ns? There should be quite a few fiber optics transceivers and receivers for 780nm and 850nm used for data communications (Fiber GBit for inhouse cabling). The photodiodes should be all PIN diodes in that area, so fast and hence low jitter (sub 1ns rise/fall times). For the transmitters, if possible go for those with laser diodes and modulate them (ie no on-off switching). This will give you jitter way below 1ns (sorry, don't know any hard numbers). The usual suspects should carry transmitters and receivers that can couple directly into fibers. As for the fiber. If possible (and you can afford it) use single mode fibers. For short stuff multimode should do as well. Attila Kinali -- The trouble with you, Shev, is you don't say anything until you've saved up a whole truckload of damned heavy brick arguments and then you dump them all out and never look at the bleeding body mangled beneath the heap -- Tirin, The Dispossessed, U. Le Guin ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] ngTADD-1
Hi The stuff I've seen is aimed at the military market. It's in the don't even ask about the price category for home applications. It's also new enough that I doubt it's on the surplus market yet. I'd haunt the auction sites for a complete set of parts. You'll need both ends (tx and rx) *and* a proper cable with connectors. Yes, you can put the connectors on yourself, but it'll take a bit of practice to get it right. Bob On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:08 AM, Kevin Rosenberg ke...@rosenberg.net wrote: On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: There are optical links that are better than your typical opto coupler. I have not seen many that are good to -170 dbc. Rather than for a 10 MHz signal, I might prefer an optical link rather than differential for a PPS signal. Could you recommend any optical links with jitter of about 1 ns? Kevin ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX
Hi At least on the 53131, the first sign of wear out was an error message. I believe it was a self test message (checksum error). I could easily be wrong about that. We blew them out within 9 months of when they were first introduced. That was a long time ago. Bob On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:43 AM, Volker Esper ail...@t-online.de wrote: How do I recognize a wear out? Does the receiver send an error message every time I try to change the NVRAM or do I have to ask it? Volker Am 24.04.2013 00:08, schrieb Mark C. Stephens: Thanks Ulrich, Much Appreciated, prefer to use your software. Thanks Again, mark -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM To: Time nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX Gentlemen, due to the discussion that evolved concerning Z38XX i looked up the sources and found that indeed every time the current time is read using a :PTIM:TCOD? a :PTIM:TCOD:FORM F2 is sent in advance to make the receiver answer in the format that Z38XX needs. I have not been aware that this could lead to NVRAM wear out but have been thinking this simply sets the format of the next output. I have changed the software so that the FORM F2 command is now only written once after program start. The software can be downloaded from the usual place but I have currently no time to test it. My own experiences with NV memory that can only be written for a limited number of times (EEPROM on ATMEL processors) indicates that a clever made NV writing routine would first compare the NV contents to what shall be written on a byte by byte base and write only changed bytes. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Radio with GPSDO
On 4/23/13 6:54 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: http://www.aorusa.com/receivers/ar2300.html Just a FYI. Interesting.. I see they use the OEM GPS from Garmin. I wonder what kind of DO performance they get, and whether they actually discipline the oscillator or just measure it. Since they've got a DDS, they could use a quiet fixed OCXO, undisciplined, and just adjust the DDS control word. Fascinating, also, that they provide a raw I/Q sample output. Clearly, that's the way of the future, and it makes sense. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act... and freq standard box
Peter, I believe you are correct about the $1M per year trip point, but would remind you that this is a very slippery slope. When the Income Tax was originally enacted, very, very few were impacted. That is no longer so. The Alternative Minimum Tax was enacted to hit those who have saved and invested already taxed once money, and hit them again. Yet over the years the AMT has hit more and more in the middle class, so Congress has had to enact annual 'fixes'. The Capital Gains tax is on assets that have increased in value, but there is no provision to index the CG taxes for inflation. So, the fed inflated the currency, and taxes virtual growth. This is fundamentally not about 'fairness'. It is all about government at all levels wanting more and more money, ultimately to buy votes, by playing Santa Claus with other peoples' money. The 'fairness' argument is all about the politics of envy and getting re-elected. YMMV, -John == What I read is that it is for merchants who exceed a million dollars a year. So, if it is determined it is each seller that is responsible, it would only apply to those doing greater than a million in sales (not many). If however it is determined that it is ebay who is the merchant, then they would have to handle the tax collection and payment and it would simply be added to the final auction and maybe plus shipping amount (depending on the state and what is taxable). This is the most likely scenario. It is more complex than just what tax rate to use as each state taxes different things. For example, some states do not tax clothing, others do, and some others only if the item exceeds some cost. As I mentioned in another message there are third party services which keep track of all this already. For a site like ebay it is complex but not daunting task to set that up. [snip] ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX
I have a weared out 24LC256: I have made some experiments and noted that the bits turned to 1, slowly revert back to 0. Writing and immediately reading back to check can show no errors but reading again after some seconds reveals the errors. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Volker Esper ail...@t-online.de wrote: How do I recognize a wear out? Does the receiver send an error message every time I try to change the NVRAM or do I have to ask it? Volker Am 24.04.2013 00:08, schrieb Mark C. Stephens: Thanks Ulrich, Much Appreciated, prefer to use your software. Thanks Again, mark -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@**febo.comtime-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM To: Time nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX Gentlemen, due to the discussion that evolved concerning Z38XX i looked up the sources and found that indeed every time the current time is read using a :PTIM:TCOD? a :PTIM:TCOD:FORM F2 is sent in advance to make the receiver answer in the format that Z38XX needs. I have not been aware that this could lead to NVRAM wear out but have been thinking this simply sets the format of the next output. I have changed the software so that the FORM F2 command is now only written once after program start. The software can be downloaded from the usual place but I have currently no time to test it. My own experiences with NV memory that can only be written for a limited number of times (EEPROM on ATMEL processors) indicates that a clever made NV writing routine would first compare the NV contents to what shall be written on a byte by byte base and write only changed bytes. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/**mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Z38XX
thanks Am 24.04.2013 13:22, schrieb Bob Camp: Hi At least on the 53131, the first sign of wear out was an error message. I believe it was a self test message (checksum error). I could easily be wrong about that. We blew them out within 9 months of when they were first introduced. That was a long time ago. Bob On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:43 AM, Volker Esperail...@t-online.de wrote: How do I recognize a wear out? Does the receiver send an error message every time I try to change the NVRAM or do I have to ask it? Volker Am 24.04.2013 00:08, schrieb Mark C. Stephens: Thanks Ulrich, Much Appreciated, prefer to use your software. Thanks Again, mark -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2013 5:36 PM To: Time nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Z38XX Gentlemen, due to the discussion that evolved concerning Z38XX i looked up the sources and found that indeed every time the current time is read using a :PTIM:TCOD? a :PTIM:TCOD:FORM F2 is sent in advance to make the receiver answer in the format that Z38XX needs. I have not been aware that this could lead to NVRAM wear out but have been thinking this simply sets the format of the next output. I have changed the software so that the FORM F2 command is now only written once after program start. The software can be downloaded from the usual place but I have currently no time to test it. My own experiences with NV memory that can only be written for a limited number of times (EEPROM on ATMEL processors) indicates that a clever made NV writing routine would first compare the NV contents to what shall be written on a byte by byte base and write only changed bytes. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Radio with GPSDO
In a world of digital comms with very capable competition, AOR has been looking for a reason to exist. They have turned to high end gear. For some time now, their radios were DDS and capable of running from an external 10MHz. I suspect they are used in a rack of gear to direction find. The black box SDR version is the next obvious step since nobody was actually playing with the knobs anyway. I would be surprised if there were vans with 3 or 4 of these black box radios as part of a stingray or silent ping set up using correlation techniques to RDF cellular users. It has enough bandwidth to cover all known cellular providers. It could probably RDF wifi. -Original Message- From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 04:33:26 To: time-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Radio with GPSDO On 4/23/13 6:54 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: http://www.aorusa.com/receivers/ar2300.html Just a FYI. Interesting.. I see they use the OEM GPS from Garmin. I wonder what kind of DO performance they get, and whether they actually discipline the oscillator or just measure it. Since they've got a DDS, they could use a quiet fixed OCXO, undisciplined, and just adjust the DDS control word. Fascinating, also, that they provide a raw I/Q sample output. Clearly, that's the way of the future, and it makes sense. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM, DaveH i...@blackmountainforge.com wrote: If I walked into Parts Express's corporate headquarters in Ohio and purchased some stuff, I could show my WA State drivers license and be exempt from the Ohio sales tax. Why is this any different from an online purchase? Actually, that's not true at all. Ordering across state lines and picking up will trigger them having to pay sales tax (and then charging you) since the sale happened in Ohio as well as if you just cross into Ohio and initiate the transaction there. And again, this thread has no business being on this list so please make it go away guys. The only reason I'm saying anything is to encourage people to just stop! -Bob ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act - the thing that wouldn't die.
Can we admit that this is completely off-topic for this list, and move on to appropriate topics? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] ngTADD-1
On Apr 24, 2013, at 2:50 AM, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: [...] low jitter (sub 1ns rise/fall times). For the transmitters, if possible go for those with laser diodes and modulate them (ie no on-off switching). This will give you jitter way below 1ns (sorry, don't know any hard numbers). For 1ns jitter, do you have a recommendation of modulation (ASK/PSK?) and carrier frequency? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Courtesy and Common Interests
Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act And again, this thread has no business being on this list so please make it go away guys. The only reason I'm saying anything is to encourage people to just stop! -Bob Really Well I am not so sure about that. In response to a query to the group regarding a possible eBay message as coming from a hacker - I took the trouble and provided an answer that correctly illuminated the issue. Further since a good deal of the equipment we use comes from on-line purchases, both eBay and distributors, as well as private sales; I submit that this topic can potentially impact our hobby to some extent. It may drive some sources out of business. At this point who knows; as the bill has not yet become law. So I believe that some members may wish to weigh in on the topic with their representatives - but to do so they have to know that the issue exists. Since it may be of concern to some time-nuts I maintain that it is appropriate. I do not contribute often here, but when I do it is usually from my 44 years as a microwave engineer who did spread spectrum timing for the military years before GPS was even thought of. So now and then I just may have a useful idea that could benefit the topic at hand. Mostly my inputs are never acknowledged by as much as a simple thank you. The above is just one example of how unfriendly and discourteous this list can be. Who the hell cares if few bytes of text are a bit off topic? And who is to say that no-one can benefit from it. Lets lighten up a bit. -john k6iql ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Trimble ACE Replacement?
I'm sure some of you noticed the flood of Tymserve 2100's on eBay lately, they were selling in lots of 3-4 (or more)! I managed to pick up a few (like I really needed them) and proceeded to add in the GPS module to make them a little more useful. I haven't seen any Trimble ACE receivers on eBay in a while. I was doing a little research and while the SveeSix seems the same physical size and pinout, its COM settings do not appear to be adjustable (I could be wrong), but even the simple act of switching between like TSIP NMEA requires re-flashing the receiver, there was no mention of changing the comport settings in the documentation. So I started looking at the Lassen modules since that came after the ACE line. They too appear to be the same pinout, however their physical size is different. They come in both 5v 3.3v flavors, and I managed to find someone on eBay selling a 5v one. My question is, has anyone tried to get a TS2100 to communicate with a different receiver than the ACE line? Kind of curious what works and what doesn't. I did manage to get an Oncore UT+ off eBay for 1 cent (plus $8 shipping)... Can't beat that! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
