[time-nuts] FTS 1200 transistor replacement

2014-05-17 Thread EWKehren
Traced the problem of my FTS 1200 to the first BC109 Transistor on the  
A2/A3 AGS/Amplifier board. Since it is right after the Oscillator transistor 
low  noise is critical. This unit is at least 30 years old and my question is, 
what  transistor will have even lower noise than the than low noise BC 109. 
Voltage is  6.43 V.
Thanks  Bert Kehren
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[time-nuts] iTrax130

2014-05-17 Thread Ernie Peres

Hello,

Just got this board  from a Chinese ebayer, but unable to find any document 
about the 
  pin-assignment.

Anybody can help...

Many thanks and brgds,
Ernie.
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Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 118, Issue 35 Message: 3

2014-05-17 Thread Walter Hofstädtler
Hi,

 Traced the problem of my FTS 1200 to the first BC109 Transistor on the
 A2/A3 AGS/Amplifier board. Since it is right after the Oscillator transistor 
 low  noise is critical. This unit is at least 30 years old and my question 
 is, what  transistor will have 
 even lower noise than the than low noise BC 109. 
 Voltage is  6.43 V.

A BC 549  is a replacement

Walter

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Fwd: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS Devices
  (Magnus Danielson)
   2. Re: Fwd: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS Devices
  (Brooke Clarke)
   3. FTS 1200 transistor replacement (ewkeh...@aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 01:01:50 +0200
From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS
Devices
Message-ID: 537698de.2050...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

They can't point official fingers. That's why.

Ask you vendor if they need firmware upgrades to comply in this aspect.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 05/16/2014 12:39 AM, saidj...@aol.com wrote:
 It would be good to understand which receivers are adversely  affected 
 by this.. the USCG did not list affected vendors/devices..


 In a message dated 5/15/2014 15:19:51 Pacific Daylight Time, 
 mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes:

 Hi  fellow time-nuts,

 I think this message is interesting. It shows that  some receiver 
 vendors have been cheating on an important detail, ignoring  the 
 health status and being confused as a  result.

 Cheers,
 Magnus


  Original Message  
 Subject: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS Devices
 Date:  Thu, 15 May 2014 21:20:23 +
 From: Civil Global Positioning System  Service Interface Committee
 (CGSIC)  cg...@cgls.uscg.mil
 Reply-To: cg...@cgls.uscg.mil
 To:  cg...@cgls.uscg.mil cg...@cgls.uscg.mil

 All CGSIC:

 May  15, 2014

 Recently, many GPS users have reported intermittent GPS  outages in 
 their devices.  After investigating, the U.S. government  has linked 
 the problem to flawed processing of GPS satellite data within  certain 
 GPS receiver chipsets.  The GPS satellite service continues  to 
 function as designed and is fully operational and available  worldwide.

 The problem affects only user equipment that erroneously  ignores the 
 satellite health status information broadcast from every GPS  satellite.
 The problem is not related to the April 28, 2014,  activation of civil 
 navigation messages on the GPS L2C and L5  signals.

 Since March 15, 2014, the Air Force has been conducting  functional 
 checkout on a GPS satellite, designated Space Vehicle Number  (SVN) 64.
 SVN 64 broadcasts a data message that clearly indicates SVN 64  is 
 unusable for navigation.  Nevertheless, the U.S. government has 
 confirmed that certain GPS receivers are using data from SVN 64, in 
 violation of GPS interface specifications, resulting in outages or 
 corrupted, inaccurate position calculations.

 The Air Force testing  is scheduled to end in mid-May 2014 at which 
 time SVN 64 will begin normal  operation.  At that point, these problems may
 stop  occurring.   Meanwhile, the U.S. government urges all GPS device
 makers to review their products for compliance with the GPS interface 
 specifications, and if necessary, to issue software/firmware updates 
 to users as soon as possible. View specifications 
 http://www.gps.gov/technical/icwg/

 Users experiencing GPS outages  should check with their device 
 manufacturers for available  software/firmware updates.  In addition, 
 any civil user seeing  unusual behavior in GPS user equipment should 
 report it to the U.S. Coast  Guard Navigation Center (NAVCEN).  
 Aviation users should file reports  consistent with FAA-approved 
 procedures.  Military users seeing  unusual behavior should report it 
 the GPS Operations Center (GPSOC).

 Please direct any civil user questions to NAVCEN at (703)  313-5900, 
 http://www.navcen.uscg.gov Please direct any military user  questions 
 to the GPSOC at (719) 567-2541, DSN: 560-2541,  
 gpsoperationscen...@us.af.mil https://gps.afspc.af.mil Military  
 alternate: Joint 

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200 transistor replacement

2014-05-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The 2N5089 from ON semi is a pretty good bet for a high beta / audio part. They 
are $0.37 a piece from Mouser with 11,542 in stock.

Bob

On May 17, 2014, at 11:37 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote:

 Traced the problem of my FTS 1200 to the first BC109 Transistor on the  
 A2/A3 AGS/Amplifier board. Since it is right after the Oscillator transistor 
 low  noise is critical. This unit is at least 30 years old and my question 
 is, 
 what  transistor will have even lower noise than the than low noise BC 109. 
 Voltage is  6.43 V.
 Thanks  Bert Kehren
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Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200 transistor replacement

2014-05-17 Thread Charles Steinmetz

Bert wrote:


what  transistor will have even lower noise than the than low noise BC 109.


Generally speaking, the baseband noise of a bipolar transistor is 
most strongly influenced by the transistor's base spreading 
resistance.  Of course, the transistor also needs to have whatever 
other characteristics are required in the application circuit -- in 
particular, adequate current gain and transition frequency at the 
operating point and sufficiently low input capacitance -- and these 
may be mutually exclusive with lowest base spreading resistance.


The 2SD786 and MPSA18 may be good candidates.  That said, I seriously 
doubt you will get usefully better phase noise by using a better 
transistor in this location.


Best regards,

Charles



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Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200 transistor replacement

2014-05-17 Thread EWKehren
Thanks for all the help. I do have a couple of BC 109 but I thought with  
all the work to carefully disassemble the unit that after 30 years there 
would  be a better transistor.
Thanks again
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 5/17/2014 6:47:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
csteinm...@yandex.com writes:

Bert  wrote:

what  transistor will have even lower noise than the  than low noise BC 
109.

Generally speaking, the baseband noise of a  bipolar transistor is 
most strongly influenced by the transistor's base  spreading 
resistance.  Of course, the transistor also needs to have  whatever 
other characteristics are required in the application circuit --  in 
particular, adequate current gain and transition frequency at the  
operating point and sufficiently low input capacitance -- and these  
may be mutually exclusive with lowest base spreading  resistance.

The 2SD786 and MPSA18 may be good candidates.  That  said, I seriously 
doubt you will get usefully better phase noise by using  a better 
transistor in this location.

Best  regards,

Charles



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Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1200 transistor replacement

2014-05-17 Thread Charles Steinmetz



Thanks for all the help. I do have a couple of BC 109 but I thought with
all the work to carefully disassemble the unit that after 30 years there
would  be a better transistor.


The fundamentals of solid state physics haven't changed much in 30 
years;-)


It's a tribute to semiconductor scientists that our fabrication 
processes have been delivering devices with very close to theoretical 
performance for ~50 years.  (But I'm still waiting for commercial 
graphene FETs.)


Best regards,

Charles




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[time-nuts] OT - Need a German speaker

2014-05-17 Thread Joseph Gray
Are there any German speakers who live in the USA on this list? I need
someone to order me a small kit from a German web site. I'll pay you
up front to order this for me.

http://www.box73.de/product_info.php?products_id=945

It is a speech compressor kit that plugs into the mic of an FT-817. If
you can help, please email me offline.

Joe Gray
W5JG
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Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 118, Issue 35 Message: 3

2014-05-17 Thread Alexander Pummer


Ulrich Rohde has a low noise oscillator circuit perhaps it is patented, 
here is:http://f6csx.free.fr/techni/PLL/Oscillators.pdf

73
Alex

 On 5/17/2014 9:53 AM, Walter Hofstädtler wrote:

Hi,


Traced the problem of my FTS 1200 to the first BC109 Transistor on the
A2/A3 AGS/Amplifier board. Since it is right after the Oscillator transistor 
low  noise is critical. This unit is at least 30 years old and my question is, 
what  transistor will have
even lower noise than the than low noise BC 109.
Voltage is  6.43 V.

A BC 549  is a replacement

Walter

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Fwd: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS Devices
   (Magnus Danielson)
2. Re: Fwd: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS Devices
   (Brooke Clarke)
3. FTS 1200 transistor replacement (ewkeh...@aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 01:01:50 +0200
From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS
Devices
Message-ID: 537698de.2050...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

They can't point official fingers. That's why.

Ask you vendor if they need firmware upgrades to comply in this aspect.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 05/16/2014 12:39 AM, saidj...@aol.com wrote:

It would be good to understand which receivers are adversely  affected
by this.. the USCG did not list affected vendors/devices..


In a message dated 5/15/2014 15:19:51 Pacific Daylight Time,
mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes:

Hi  fellow time-nuts,

I think this message is interesting. It shows that  some receiver
vendors have been cheating on an important detail, ignoring  the
health status and being confused as a  result.

Cheers,
Magnus


 Original Message  
Subject: CGSIC: Known Problem With Certain GPS Devices
Date:  Thu, 15 May 2014 21:20:23 +
From: Civil Global Positioning System  Service Interface Committee
(CGSIC)  cg...@cgls.uscg.mil
Reply-To: cg...@cgls.uscg.mil
To:  cg...@cgls.uscg.mil cg...@cgls.uscg.mil

All CGSIC:

May  15, 2014

Recently, many GPS users have reported intermittent GPS  outages in
their devices.  After investigating, the U.S. government  has linked
the problem to flawed processing of GPS satellite data within  certain
GPS receiver chipsets.  The GPS satellite service continues  to
function as designed and is fully operational and available  worldwide.

The problem affects only user equipment that erroneously  ignores the
satellite health status information broadcast from every GPS  satellite.
The problem is not related to the April 28, 2014,  activation of civil
navigation messages on the GPS L2C and L5  signals.

Since March 15, 2014, the Air Force has been conducting  functional
checkout on a GPS satellite, designated Space Vehicle Number  (SVN) 64.
SVN 64 broadcasts a data message that clearly indicates SVN 64  is
unusable for navigation.  Nevertheless, the U.S. government has
confirmed that certain GPS receivers are using data from SVN 64, in
violation of GPS interface specifications, resulting in outages or
corrupted, inaccurate position calculations.

The Air Force testing  is scheduled to end in mid-May 2014 at which
time SVN 64 will begin normal  operation.  At that point, these problems may
stop  occurring.   Meanwhile, the U.S. government urges all GPS device
makers to review their products for compliance with the GPS interface
specifications, and if necessary, to issue software/firmware updates
to users as soon as possible. View specifications
http://www.gps.gov/technical/icwg/

Users experiencing GPS outages  should check with their device
manufacturers for available  software/firmware updates.  In addition,
any civil user seeing  unusual behavior in GPS user equipment should
report it to the U.S. Coast  Guard Navigation Center (NAVCEN).
Aviation users should file reports  consistent with FAA-approved
procedures.  Military users seeing  unusual behavior should report it
the GPS Operations Center (GPSOC).

Please direct any civil user questions to NAVCEN at (703)  313-5900,
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov Please direct any military user  questions
to the GPSOC at (719)