[time-nuts] WWVB remodulator dropbox links (I hope)

2014-07-06 Thread paul swed
Here are 2 documents I can add several 2 MB pictires and such if it works.
The other comment is that its great to see the interest from various
time-nuts.
Thanks

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvc6k4qxq9d0t30/Remodulator%20operational%2006282014a.sch

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lg70hf9erhqszt/WWVB%20remodulator%20update%2007012014.pdf


Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
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[time-nuts] Trimble OCXOs - 6525, ... and ...

2014-07-06 Thread Philip Pemberton

Hi there,

I've noticed a couple of Trimble OCXOs listed on that auction site. 
Specifically, model numbers:


  - 65256
  - 49423
  - 34310 C1

They all seem to be 12V, 10MHz, sine-wave units. Does anyone know if 
there are any other differences between them? Do any specific ones 
perform better than the others?


There's a bit of a price difference between them, but data on Trimble 
OCXOs seems to be quite sparse (a bit like data on their GPS modules, 
really).


Thanks,
--
Phil.
li...@philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
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Re: [time-nuts] Trimble OCXOs - 6525, ... and ...

2014-07-06 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX

On 07/06/2014 05:38 PM, Philip Pemberton wrote:

Hi there,

I've noticed a couple of Trimble OCXOs listed on that auction site. 
Specifically, model numbers:


  - 65256
  - 49423
  - 34310 C1

They all seem to be 12V, 10MHz, sine-wave units. Does anyone know if 
there are any other differences between them? Do any specific ones 
perform better than the others?


There's a bit of a price difference between them, but data on Trimble 
OCXOs seems to be quite sparse (a bit like data on their GPS modules, 
really).


Thanks,

I bought a replacement OCXO for a Thunderbolt whose OCXO had died.
The pinouts are different.
The housing is much taller and won't fit in the Thunderbolt enclosure.
The polarity of the VCO pin is different.

That said, I was able to get the kluge to work by changing the polarity 
of the loop gain.


--
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Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
  Omen Technology Inc  The High Reliability Software
10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231   503-614-0430

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Re: [time-nuts] Magnetic Resonance Spectrometer - redux

2014-07-06 Thread Bob Stewart
Thanks Brooke.  I'll look into it.  It would be interesting to try to develop a 
frequency standard from a test tube of water.  


Bob




 From: Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net
To: Bob Stewart b...@evoria.net; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement time-nuts@febo.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Magnetic Resonance Spectrometer - redux
 

Hi Bob:

This is very similar to a proton precession magnetometer that measures the 
total magnetic field, not in vector components.
There's a lot of amateur designs for these that you could use as the bases for 
a MRS.

There is an article in the same publication for a tube type frequency standard 
that can be used to drive a line powered 
wall clock.
The Magnatron magnets were probably Alinco, so if you upgraded to modern 
magnets it might be much more stable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_magnetometer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMR

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html
http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html

Bob Stewart wrote:
 First, an apology.  When I changed the topic on my original post, I thought 
 that would be OK.  Apparently that's still a thread-jacking.  Sorry.

 I'm still interested in this Magnetic Resonance Spectrometer thing, though.  
 On page 335 of the pdf linked below by Dave, there's an experiment with an 
 MRS using water and the magnet from a magnetron available back then.  
 Apparently the resonant frequency of hydrogen nuclei in water is 6.131325 MHz 
 in that magnetic field. Did anyone ever pursue this with the idea of creating 
 a frequency standard, or was the technology just too primitive at the time?  
 Perhaps it's a repeatability problem from the magnetic flux standpoint?  I 
 can guess that temperature changes would cause enough of a flux strength 
 change to cause a problem, but that's just a guess.

 Bob - AE6RV

 
 From: DaveH i...@blackmountainforge.com
 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' 
 time-nuts@febo.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 1:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran, GPS, Lightning, Timing


 A PDF of the 1960 book can be found here:

 http://www.sciencemadness.org/library/books/projects_for_the_amateur_scientist.pdf

 Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] Trimble OCXOs - 6525, ... and ...

2014-07-06 Thread Alex Pummer



some older models have higher phase noise, the very new ones are very 
good, sometimes they aged out the control voltage range, needing higher 
control voltage to pull to 10,000 MHz, some of them can not be 
pulled to the correct frequency any more without mechanical 
readjustment. They have inside a trim cap to set the tuning range, which 
is not accessible without opening the case.The case is hermetically closed.
Some companies for very high performance units  filling the hermetically 
closed case with nitrogen, also reducing the pressure of the filing  gas 
bellow the atmospheric level.

73
KJ6UHN
Alex

On 7/6/2014 7:43 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:

On 07/06/2014 05:38 PM, Philip Pemberton wrote:

Hi there,

I've noticed a couple of Trimble OCXOs listed on that auction site. 
Specifically, model numbers:


  - 65256
  - 49423
  - 34310 C1

They all seem to be 12V, 10MHz, sine-wave units. Does anyone know if 
there are any other differences between them? Do any specific ones 
perform better than the others?


There's a bit of a price difference between them, but data on Trimble 
OCXOs seems to be quite sparse (a bit like data on their GPS modules, 
really).


Thanks,

I bought a replacement OCXO for a Thunderbolt whose OCXO had died.
The pinouts are different.
The housing is much taller and won't fit in the Thunderbolt enclosure.
The polarity of the VCO pin is different.

That said, I was able to get the kluge to work by changing the 
polarity of the loop gain.




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