Re: [time-nuts] The HP 105B Quartz Oscillator

2014-07-07 Thread John Allen
Hi Max - may I suggest uploading it to KO4BB.com, Didier's archive site?

Thanks,
Regards, John 
 
John Allen K1AE


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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] The HP 105B Quartz Oscillator

On 7/07/2014 10:50 PM, R.Phillips wrote:
> Fellow time-nuts
> I have obtained a venerable HP 105B, and I am pleased to find it has the 
> later, and I think superior 10811 – 60109 Oscillator. I have found the 
> download for the manual, but this covers an earlier version with the old 
> larger 5 MHz Oscillator. Is it possible that one of you may have a manual for 
> this later version ? – it would be much appreciated.
> Roy Phillips.
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Hi all, Roy,
The 10Mhz change is not covered in a manual but comes in an Update (yellow 
pages). Its about  1/4 thick double sided. The copy that I have appears to be 
complete. Please contact me off list to arrange to get a copy for you.

MaxVK3YBA

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Re: [time-nuts] The HP 105B Quartz Oscillator

2014-07-07 Thread Max

On 7/07/2014 10:50 PM, R.Phillips wrote:

Fellow time-nuts
I have obtained a venerable HP 105B, and I am pleased to find it has the later, 
and I think superior 10811 – 60109 Oscillator. I have found the download for 
the manual, but this covers an earlier version with the old larger 5 MHz 
Oscillator. Is it possible that one of you may have a manual for this later 
version ? – it would be much appreciated.
Roy Phillips.
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Hi all, Roy,
The 10Mhz change is not covered in a manual but comes in an Update 
(yellow pages). Its about  1/4 thick double sided. The copy that I have 
appears to be complete. Please contact me off list to arrange to get a 
copy for you.


MaxVK3YBA

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[time-nuts] The HP 105B Quartz Oscillator

2014-07-07 Thread R.Phillips
Fellow time-nuts
I have obtained a venerable HP 105B, and I am pleased to find it has the later, 
and I think superior 10811 – 60109 Oscillator. I have found the download for 
the manual, but this covers an earlier version with the old larger 5 MHz 
Oscillator. Is it possible that one of you may have a manual for this later 
version ? – it would be much appreciated.
Roy Phillips.
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Re: [time-nuts] Trimble OCXOs - 6525, ... and ...

2014-07-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

I have not seen a Trimble OCXO with an internal trimmer for frequency set. They 
probably do exist, but they are not common among the newer (post 2001) parts.

Bob

On Jul 6, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Alex Pummer  wrote:

> 
> 
> some older models have higher phase noise, the very new ones are very good, 
> sometimes they aged out the control voltage range, needing higher control 
> voltage to pull to 10,000 MHz, some of them can not be pulled to the 
> correct frequency any more without mechanical readjustment. They have inside 
> a trim cap to set the tuning range, which is not accessible without opening 
> the case.The case is hermetically closed.
> Some companies for very high performance units  filling the hermetically 
> closed case with nitrogen, also reducing the pressure of the filing  gas 
> bellow the atmospheric level.
> 73
> KJ6UHN
> Alex
> 
> On 7/6/2014 7:43 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
>> On 07/06/2014 05:38 PM, Philip Pemberton wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> I've noticed a couple of Trimble OCXOs listed on "that auction site". 
>>> Specifically, model numbers:
>>> 
>>>  - 65256
>>>  - 49423
>>>  - 34310 C1
>>> 
>>> They all seem to be 12V, 10MHz, sine-wave units. Does anyone know if there 
>>> are any other differences between them? Do any specific ones perform better 
>>> than the others?
>>> 
>>> There's a bit of a price difference between them, but data on Trimble OCXOs 
>>> seems to be quite sparse (a bit like data on their GPS modules, really).
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>> I bought a replacement OCXO for a Thunderbolt whose OCXO had died.
>> The pinouts are different.
>> The housing is much taller and won't fit in the Thunderbolt enclosure.
>> The polarity of the VCO pin is different.
>> 
>> That said, I was able to get the kluge to work by changing the polarity of 
>> the loop gain.
>> 
> 
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