[time-nuts] homebrew counter new board test result

2015-02-23 Thread Li Ang
Hi,
   I'm back. I have been testing my new borad for days.
   Compared to previous version, this board makes the PCB track of signals far 
from each other and replaces LDO for TDC with LP5907.
   CH_A: simple resistor bias and ac couple front end, CH_B: 
CH_A+MC100LVELT22 LVPECL , CH_C: CH_A+74LVC2G14 .
   At first, the result is worse than previous board. Using CH_B as the REF and 
DUT source, the stdev of the phase measurement is about 160ps. The old board 
can reach about 70ps. CH_A and CH_C are way much better than CH_B. That bothers 
me for days.
   Today, I use the 74LVC2G14 to square the signal from MV89A, and do the same 
test. For all three channel, the stdevs are about 37ps. The spec of TDC_GP22 is 
35ps. And now the performance looks a little bit better than the previous 
board.  It looks like that the jitter of MC100LVELT22 is much bigger at slow 
slew rate.
   It seems that next step is to play with the front end. 


The raw data is uploaded to 
http://www.qsl.net/b/bi7lnq/freqcntv4.1/test/20150222/
The pic of this version is uploaded to 
http://www.qsl.net/b/bi7lnq/freqcntv4.1/pic/ ‍




Regards
Li Angattachment: results.gif
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Re: [time-nuts] OXCO insulation

2015-02-23 Thread Andy Bardagjy
Fiberglass seems like an obvious choice for high temperature insulation. 

Andy ◉ Bardagjy.com ◉ +1-404-964-1641

 On Feb 23, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) 
 drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote:
 
 On 22 Feb 2015 22:07, Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net wrote:
 
 Yes, I'm aware that the newer OXCOs don't have any insulation other than
 air inside the package.  I failed to mention that in my post.  I am
 primarily interested in the older OXCOs that have foam insulation inside.
 I have a couple of them, including the crystal oven from an old HP 5245L
 counter that needs new insulation.
 
 I don't know what is used, but clearly whatever is used *must* be stable
 under heat for *long* periods of time.
 
 Domestic gas / oil / coal boilers must use insulation,  and whatever is
 used would I assume be able to take heat for extended periods of time. I
 wonder if you could get something like that.
 
 The trouble I see with other chemicals (spray foam etc), is you have no
 idea if it will sustain heat for long periods of time.
 
 Dave.
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