Re: [time-nuts] Glass Envelope Quartz Crystals

2016-02-06 Thread Morris Odell
This is a very interesting discussion. I have experimented with some audio 
frequency crystals in the 3-6 kHz range. I don't know what they came out of but 
it was probably some sort of FDM telephony or telegraphy equipment. They're in 
the form of vacuum mounted bars with 4 plated terminals in tall 7 pin or octal 
tube envelopes. When suitably driven they oscillate audibly like a bell ringing 
and as a result of the very high Q they even keep ringing for a few seconds 
after the power is turned off. Unfortunately I don't have access to a 
stroboscope. I'd like to do something useful with them on display, perhaps a 
clock for people with presbyacusis who wouldn't notice the sound :-)

Morris

>> You have it right, iovane. At the least, they should be protected 
>> from light,
>> thermal radiation, and emf.   Won'drous things will happen if the 
>> crystal and
>> its structure are subjected to radiation through the glass. I'd 
>> suggest a foam gator wrap in a tin can as a minimum. Put the 
>> oscillator cat in there too.
>
>   I have a 100 kHz glass "Crystal Unit" made by G.E.C., type JCF/193 
> with a serial number and sealed in a valve/tube with seven pins.
> I removed it from my Eddystone EA12 that I bought from Tom Roberts, 
> G3YTO, SK 1985. It has a black shield with a spring inside at the top 
> so that it grips the base. The valve that produced 100 kHz markers for 
> dial calibration failed and I don't use the EA12 these days.
> It will be interesting to see how stable it is and what the effect of 
> light and heat on it is when I start experimenting.

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Re: [time-nuts] Glass Envelope Quartz Crystals

2016-02-06 Thread EB4APL
Here is a picture of one of those British made glass envelope crystals 
with miniature 7 pin bases.  It is marked 62.500 KC/S and came from an 
old Marconi broadcast B/W TV sync generator.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3jtadg2c9rlc42n/Glass%20crystal.jpg?dl=0

Ignacio, EB4APL


On 03/02/2016 a las 22:41, Ian Stirling wrote:

On 02/02/2016 03:24 PM, Don Latham wrote:
You have it right, iovane. At the least, they should be protected 
from light,
thermal radiation, and emf.   Won'drous things will happen if the 
crystal and
its structure are subjected to radiation through the glass. I'd 
suggest a foam gator

wrap in a tin can as a minimum. Put the oscillator cat in there too.


  I have a 100 kHz glass "Crystal Unit" made by G.E.C., type JCF/193
with a serial number and sealed in a valve/tube with seven pins.
I removed it from my Eddystone EA12 that I bought from Tom Roberts,
G3YTO, SK 1985. It has a black shield with a spring inside at the top
so that it grips the base. The valve that produced 100 kHz markers for
dial calibration failed and I don't use the EA12 these days.
It will be interesting to see how stable it is and what the effect
of light and heat on it is when I start experimenting.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR
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