[time-nuts] Vectron Labs 100MHz OCXO datasheet?

2017-08-09 Thread Neil Smith G4DBN
Does anyone have any technical info on a Vectron Laboratories 100MHz OCXO, 
model 724Y3067 (part number A61583-1) please? Can’t find a datasheet on the 
current Vectron Inc website and my Google-fu is weak today.
Neil
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[time-nuts] Anyone using UBLOX LEA-M8F for GPSDO?

2017-05-10 Thread Neil Smith G4DBN
I’ve just ordered an LEA-M8F board from CSG to save time and trouble making a 
PCB. I am intending to use it to discipline one of my 100MHz OCXOs, using a /5 
divider.  Has anyone on the list used this chip to discipline an external OCXO? 
Any experiences to share and suggestions to get best performance?  I have two 
100MHz OCXOs, one is locked to a G3RUH 10MHz GPSDO, the other to an Rb source.  
I use them to lock local oscillators for SHF transverters. I’ll be using this 
when out in the field with SHF sources up to 241GHz, so I don’t have to move 
the Rb source around.

No particular reason for choosing the LEA-M8F other than it looks interesting 
to play with. Actually, who needs a better reason!
Neil
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Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz to 25MHz

2017-01-18 Thread Neil Smith G4DBN
That is exactly what I have just done, using an HMC1031 to lock a good 100MHz 
OCXO to my GPSDO, using a very narrow filter bandwidth with decent 22uF ceramic 
caps in the loop filter. I’ve also made a second version using an XOR gate and 
an MC12080 prescaler and flipflops and fast comparators, but the HMC1031 
version is way simpler and has a wider lock-in range. Hard to measure the 
performance as the noise appears lower than my E4406A can resolve, but with one 
100MHz OCXO locked to the GPSDO and the other to my 10MHz Rb standard, and 
monitoring the relative phases using an AD8302, I see none of the (slight) 
glitchiness of the GPSDO reflected in the 100MHz locked output.

Neil 

> On 19 Jan 2017, at 02:08, Bob Camp  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> What are you going to use the 25 MHz for? Will it drive any sort of radio? If 
> so, cleaning up the phase
> noise of the GPSDO is a *very* good idea. With a PLL, you can *subtract* 
> noise. With a multiplier you 
> can only *add* noise. The narrow bandwidth PLL combined with a low nose VCXO 
> is your friend in this case. 
> 
> I would take the process one step further. I’d lock up a 100 MHz VCXO to the 
> 10 MHz. Then you can get
> 100, 50, 25, and 20 MHz outputs. The 100 MHz is the key if you want to head 
> up into the microwave 
> region. 
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Loren Moline WA7SKT  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you talking about locking the 50MHz VCXO to my 10 MH. Standard? I want 
>> the 25MHz to be from my 10MHz OCXO which is my station standard which will 
>> locked to GPS eventually.
>> 
>> Loren WA7SKT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:01 PM -0800, "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" 
>> mailto:rich...@karlquist.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A better and easier way is to phase lock a crystal oscillator.
>> I would use a 50 MHz VCXO and divide the output by 2 to get a
>> 25 MHz square wave.
>> 
>> Rick N6RK
>> 
>> On 1/18/2017 10:28 AM, Loren Moline WA7SKT wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a good X5 multiplier to use to generate a 25MHz signal 
>>> from my 10MHz OCXO. I want to divide by 2 and multiply by 5 with a bandpass 
>>> filter in the output and then a 3.3 volt 25MHz signal out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe someone has better ways?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Loren Moline  WA7SKT
>>> 
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