[time-nuts] ntpdc -c kern explanation

2012-03-28 Thread Ron Hahn (EI2JP)
Colleagues,

Can someone give me a lay mans explanation of each of the lines of
output from my ntpdc -c kern command please?

[root@tock /usr/local/etc]# ntpdc -c kern
pll offset:   8e-07 s
pll frequency:-2.289 ppm
maximum error:0.006736 s
estimated error:  1e-06 s
status:   2107  pll ppsfreq ppstime ppssignal nano
pll time constant:4
precision:1e-09 s
frequency tolerance:  496 ppm
pps frequency:-2.289 ppm
pps stability:0.011 ppm
pps jitter:   1.564e-06 s
calibration interval: 256 s
calibration cycles:   1646
jitter exceeded:  345
stability exceeded:   1
calibration errors:   1
[root@tock /usr/local/etc]#

Thanks!

Ron

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Ron Hahn, EI2JP
Rosslare Strand,
County Wexford, Ireland

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Re: [time-nuts] z3801 - holdover and recovery issue

2011-07-15 Thread Ron Hahn (EI2JP)

On 7/11/2011 3:57 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote:

Ron wrote:


Colleagues,

My Z3801 has developed a peculiar problem over the last few weeks.

The problem is that it seems to oscillate between gps-lock and 
holdover.  When I checked further it seems to be oscillating 
between, locked, recovery, and holdover, mostly staying in recovery 
and holdover.


Have you tried substituting another antenna and cable (even just a 
short cable with the antenna indoors)?  This looks like what I'd 
expect a 3801 to do if its antenna or antenna connection were 
intermittent.  While you have it disconnected, check that the 3801 is 
putting antenna power on the coax.



Hi Charles,

I disconnected the mushroom-style antenna and measured the voltage 
between the TNC centre pin and shield;  This was 5 volts.  Connection 
looked clean and unaffected by weather or moisture ingress.  Reattached 
the connector and screwed it on until it was tight, then rechecked 
gpscon.  Satellites are now being received.


So I can only deduce from this that the TNC male (cable end) to TNC 
female (mushroom antenna) is intermittent.  Don't understand why but it 
now looks like it is receiving 6 satellites and the 3801 is in 
recovery mode.


http://www.ei2jp.org/gpscon/gpsstat.htm

R


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[time-nuts] z3801 - holdover and recovery issue

2011-07-11 Thread Ron Hahn (EI2JP)

Colleagues,

My Z3801 has developed a peculiar problem over the last few weeks.  Its 
been running for several years now (at three different QTHs) and has 
worked flawlessly until recently.


The problem is that it seems to oscillate between gps-lock and 
holdover.  When I checked further it seems to be oscillating between, 
locked, recovery, and holdover, mostly staying in recovery and holdover.


The gpscon status page is here - http://www.ei2jp.org/gpscon/gpsstat.htm

Having checked closer today, I noticed that the EFC is only today 
showing err in the health monitor.  Suggestions on whan'ts gone wrong 
please?


Thanks,

Ron EI2JP



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[time-nuts] HP Z3801A, GPS vs UTC?

2011-06-11 Thread Ron Hahn (EI2JP)
On 6/7/2011 10:40 PM, cook michael wrote:
 Le 07/06/2011 21:15, r...@lcs.mit.edu a écrit :
 I have an HP 58503A. It has an Option H14,H19 sticker on the back. The
 circuit board has 58503-60001 Rev C stamped on it. It has been running
 continuously and locked to GPS for a few days, and it knows the correct
 number of seconds between GPS and UTC.

 The unit displays GPS time, without the leap seconds correction. The
 front-panel display says GPS xx:yy:zz, and :system:status? says GPS
 1PPS Synchronized to GPS Time, not to UTC as the manual shows.

 I'd be much obliged if anyone could tell me how to get the unit
 to display UTC instead of GPS time.
 I think these use a similar command set to the Z3801A
 try
 :diag:gps:utc?should show 0 if the unit is in GPS,
 1 if UTC
 if that gives coherent results, try
 :diag:gps:utc 1
 to force the mode
Colleagues,

For someone who is not understanding these modes, can you explain what
is this difference between UTC and GPS time?  I have a HP Z3801A which I
have been using for some years.  Do I need to change this to UTC time?

Thanks,

Ron

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Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3801A, GPS vs UTC?, NTP

2011-06-11 Thread Ron Hahn (EI2JP)
On 6/11/2011 2:47 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote:
 On 06/11/2011 02:11 PM, Ron Hahn (EI2JP) wrote:
 On 6/7/2011 10:40 PM, cook michael wrote:
 Le 07/06/2011 21:15, r...@lcs.mit.edu a écrit :
 I have an HP 58503A. It has an Option H14,H19 sticker on the
 back. The
 circuit board has 58503-60001 Rev C stamped on it. It has been
 running
 continuously and locked to GPS for a few days, and it knows the
 correct
 number of seconds between GPS and UTC.

 The unit displays GPS time, without the leap seconds correction. The
 front-panel display says GPS xx:yy:zz, and :system:status? says
 GPS
 1PPS Synchronized to GPS Time, not to UTC as the manual shows.

 I'd be much obliged if anyone could tell me how to get the unit
 to display UTC instead of GPS time.
 I think these use a similar command set to the Z3801A
 try
 :diag:gps:utc?should show 0 if the unit is in GPS,
 1 if UTC
 if that gives coherent results, try
 :diag:gps:utc 1
 to force the mode
 Colleagues,

 For someone who is not understanding these modes, can you explain what
 is this difference between UTC and GPS time?  I have a HP Z3801A which I
 have been using for some years.  Do I need to change this to UTC time?

 If you only wish a 10 MHz and PPS, no. GPS time will do just as well.
 If you also want UTC time for NTP server for instance, then you do
 want either to use the UTC mode or let the server know it runs on GPS
 time and compensate itself.

Magnus,

I am interested in UTC time for weather satellite reception,
synchronising via NTP.  I tried the GPSCON program for the Z3801A but
could never get it to broadcast ntp information on my LAN.  Recently, I
have purchased some Sure GPS boards from Sure Electronics
(http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=99).  David Taylor has a
great page on this at http://satsignal.eu/ntp/Sure-GPS.htm ... but now I
am thinking his time is maybe always 15 seconds off, yes??

R

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