Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question
Hi All, Using the A.01.01 DOS version of the 3048A code and the B.01.01 version of the HP-IB Command Library (thanks Adrian), with an 82335 GPIB card, works with DOS6.22, DOS7.1 (WIN98) and FREEDOS1.1. All that's required is to load the HPIB.SYS (config.sys) and ensure the selected ROM address and IRQ are available. It does not work in a win98 command windows; I spent no time trying to figure our why. It does not work with later GPIB cards (82340), as these are I/O mapped, and the B.01.01 drivers require memory mapped cards. Not having an old PC around, I used an Agilent 54845A, with the HDD reconfigured for dual booting. It's kinda cool having the PC in the rack with the 3048A kit, but there was a bit to learn to get the scope to run two GPIB cards. I upgraded the scope's HDD to an SSD, as the old drive had *LOTS* of hours on it. The overall result is a bit disappointing, given what I set out to accomplish. I can now compare the results from PN3048 in baseband noise mode to get absolute measurements, which will be useful. The DOS code produces calibration and result files which are unreadable to the RMB version and PN3048, so my master plan to use the DOS cal data with RMB/PN3048 has been foiled. On the positive side, I know the 3048A hardware is good, the system meets its performance specs, and I can do the 3-cornered hat measurements on my 100MHz PLLs which PN3048 can't do. All good clean fun, but at pennies per hour, a timepod looks like a bargain. Cheers, david David, the 82335 drivers came with the complete SW package that I sent you. I don't know if the drivers and SW are running with any more recent or non MS versions than MS-DOS 6.0. But, it's as easy to find out as it gets. Back in the day the whole OS fitted on a floppy disk and 640k of memory, together with a 33 MHz 486 did the job. Btw. a modern 2,000 MHz or something clocked PC with 4,000,000k of memory doesn't seem to work any faster... And, no, even if you get MS-DOS installed on it, you're not gonna have much fun. Adrian davidh schrieb: Folks, I'm also working on getting the MSDOS version running. What is the most recent version of DOS that people have found to work with the A 01.01 version. Also, can anyone advise where the command drivers for the 82335 can be found? Cheers, david Hi Adrian, Got the spec lines working now, thanks! Yes, the DOS version. I was hoping for an updated user manual for that version as the manual describes the other software version, and maybe a slightly later sw version. Oh well. Thanks for you help! Said On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:06, Adrian rfnuts-kvp5wt2u2u0-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org wrote: Said, are you using the Opt. 311 (MS-DOS) software? I don't know of any more recent versions. To answer your initial question: You can not change anything on the diagram _after_ the measurement, not even the title. The spec lines will be visible only when you have defined them prior to starting the measurement. Regards, Adrian saidjack-ydxpq3io04c-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org schrieb: Hello team, I am trying to get an HP 3048A system up and running, and I am having problems with enabling spec limit lines on the graph. I can enter the spec line data under the manipulate results then spec lines menu, but the lines I entered are not visible. There are the standard spec lines visible when I do the internal noise floor test, so I know this should work. Does anyone know how to enable these properly? The user manual doesn't talk about this, and it is written for an older version of the software anyway's. Also, I have software version A 01.01 from 1994, does anyone have any more recent software version? Thanks in advance, Said ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts-jsktletqltm-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts-jsktletqltm-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts-jsktletq...@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question
The overall result is a bit disappointing, given what I set out to accomplish. I can now compare the results from PN3048 in baseband noise mode to get absolute measurements, which will be useful. The DOS code produces calibration and result files which are unreadable to the RMB version and PN3048, so my master plan to use the DOS cal data with RMB/PN3048 has been foiled. Just to clarify, the CALDATAHI and CALDATALO files generated by the RMB version under the HTBasic emulator should be usable by your PN3048 installation. Copy them out of the HTBasic working directory into the directory with the PN3048.EXE executable. All good clean fun, but at pennies per hour, a timepod looks like a bargain. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/538/731/0fc.gif :) -- john, KE5FX Miles Design LLC ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question
David, the 82335 drivers came with the complete SW package that I sent you. I don't know if the drivers and SW are running with any more recent or non MS versions than MS-DOS 6.0. But, it's as easy to find out as it gets. Back in the day the whole OS fitted on a floppy disk and 640k of memory, together with a 33 MHz 486 did the job. Btw. a modern 2,000 MHz or something clocked PC with 4,000,000k of memory doesn't seem to work any faster... And, no, even if you get MS-DOS installed on it, you're not gonna have much fun. Adrian davidh schrieb: Folks, I'm also working on getting the MSDOS version running. What is the most recent version of DOS that people have found to work with the A 01.01 version. Also, can anyone advise where the command drivers for the 82335 can be found? Cheers, david Hi Adrian, Got the spec lines working now, thanks! Yes, the DOS version. I was hoping for an updated user manual for that version as the manual describes the other software version, and maybe a slightly later sw version. Oh well. Thanks for you help! Said On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:06, Adrian rfnuts-kvp5wt2u...@public.gmane.org wrote: Said, are you using the Opt. 311 (MS-DOS) software? I don't know of any more recent versions. To answer your initial question: You can not change anything on the diagram _after_ the measurement, not even the title. The spec lines will be visible only when you have defined them prior to starting the measurement. Regards, Adrian saidjack-ydxpq3io...@public.gmane.org schrieb: Hello team, I am trying to get an HP 3048A system up and running, and I am having problems with enabling spec limit lines on the graph. I can enter the spec line data under the manipulate results then spec lines menu, but the lines I entered are not visible. There are the standard spec lines visible when I do the internal noise floor test, so I know this should work. Does anyone know how to enable these properly? The user manual doesn't talk about this, and it is written for an older version of the software anyway's. Also, I have software version A 01.01 from 1994, does anyone have any more recent software version? Thanks in advance, Said ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts-jsktletq...@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts-jsktletq...@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question
The easiest way of getting a new well supported version of DOS, is to download FreeDOS. Anything that worked on any version of MSDOS will run under FreeDOS... and so much more! -Chuck Harris davidh wrote: Folks, I'm also working on getting the MSDOS version running. What is the most recent version of DOS that people have found to work with the A 01.01 version. Also, can anyone advise where the command drivers for the 82335 can be found? Cheers, david ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question
Folks, I'm also working on getting the MSDOS version running. What is the most recent version of DOS that people have found to work with the A 01.01 version. Also, can anyone advise where the command drivers for the 82335 can be found? Cheers, david Hi Adrian, Got the spec lines working now, thanks! Yes, the DOS version. I was hoping for an updated user manual for that version as the manual describes the other software version, and maybe a slightly later sw version. Oh well. Thanks for you help! Said On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:06, Adrian rfnuts-kvp5wt2u...@public.gmane.org wrote: Said, are you using the Opt. 311 (MS-DOS) software? I don't know of any more recent versions. To answer your initial question: You can not change anything on the diagram _after_ the measurement, not even the title. The spec lines will be visible only when you have defined them prior to starting the measurement. Regards, Adrian saidjack-ydxpq3io...@public.gmane.org schrieb: Hello team, I am trying to get an HP 3048A system up and running, and I am having problems with enabling spec limit lines on the graph. I can enter the spec line data under the manipulate results then spec lines menu, but the lines I entered are not visible. There are the standard spec lines visible when I do the internal noise floor test, so I know this should work. Does anyone know how to enable these properly? The user manual doesn't talk about this, and it is written for an older version of the software anyway's. Also, I have software version A 01.01 from 1994, does anyone have any more recent software version? Thanks in advance, Said ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts-jsktletq...@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts-jsktletq...@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question
Said, are you using the Opt. 311 (MS-DOS) software? I don't know of any more recent versions. To answer your initial question: You can not change anything on the diagram _after_ the measurement, not even the title. The spec lines will be visible only when you have defined them prior to starting the measurement. Regards, Adrian saidj...@aol.com schrieb: Hello team, I am trying to get an HP 3048A system up and running, and I am having problems with enabling spec limit lines on the graph. I can enter the spec line data under the manipulate results then spec lines menu, but the lines I entered are not visible. There are the standard spec lines visible when I do the internal noise floor test, so I know this should work. Does anyone know how to enable these properly? The user manual doesn't talk about this, and it is written for an older version of the software anyway's. Also, I have software version A 01.01 from 1994, does anyone have any more recent software version? Thanks in advance, Said ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 3048A software question
Hi Adrian, Got the spec lines working now, thanks! Yes, the DOS version. I was hoping for an updated user manual for that version as the manual describes the other software version, and maybe a slightly later sw version. Oh well. Thanks for you help! Said On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:06, Adrian rfn...@arcor.de wrote: Said, are you using the Opt. 311 (MS-DOS) software? I don't know of any more recent versions. To answer your initial question: You can not change anything on the diagram _after_ the measurement, not even the title. The spec lines will be visible only when you have defined them prior to starting the measurement. Regards, Adrian saidj...@aol.com schrieb: Hello team, I am trying to get an HP 3048A system up and running, and I am having problems with enabling spec limit lines on the graph. I can enter the spec line data under the manipulate results then spec lines menu, but the lines I entered are not visible. There are the standard spec lines visible when I do the internal noise floor test, so I know this should work. Does anyone know how to enable these properly? The user manual doesn't talk about this, and it is written for an older version of the software anyway's. Also, I have software version A 01.01 from 1994, does anyone have any more recent software version? Thanks in advance, Said ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] 3048A software question
Hello team, I am trying to get an HP 3048A system up and running, and I am having problems with enabling spec limit lines on the graph. I can enter the spec line data under the manipulate results then spec lines menu, but the lines I entered are not visible. There are the standard spec lines visible when I do the internal noise floor test, so I know this should work. Does anyone know how to enable these properly? The user manual doesn't talk about this, and it is written for an older version of the software anyway's. Also, I have software version A 01.01 from 1994, does anyone have any more recent software version? Thanks in advance, Said ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
