Re: [time-nuts] AD9913 programmable modulus DDS. was: Re: An (unknown?) nasty feature of the DDS principle for time nuts applications

2011-01-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <4d3f06ca.8020...@karlquist.com>, "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" writes:

>What you need is the AD9913.  It has a programmable modulus.
>Now you're not stuck with 2^32.  You can pick any convenient
>value.

Isn't it more like M/N applied to DDS, than a variable MODULUS ?

As far as I know the sine lookup-table is always modules-2, isn't it ?

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Re: [time-nuts] AD9913 programmable modulus DDS. was: Re: An (unknown?) nasty feature of the DDS principle for time nuts applications

2011-01-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Since the 9913 lacks a means of low pass filtering the DAC reference it 
may well suffer from significant AM noise sidebands.
With a well designed sine to square converter as required when using it 
as part of an offset source like that outlined in Rick's paper (probably 
desirable to reduce the phase noise floor of the offset source) this 
characteristic shouldn't be a significant issue.


Bruce


Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:

What you need is the AD9913.  It has a programmable modulus.
Now you're not stuck with 2^32.  You can pick any convenient
value.

Rick Karlquist N6RK

On 1/25/2011 5:37 AM, Ulrich Bangert wrote:

Gentlemen,

the pros and cons of DDS chips and how to improve them have been 
discussed

here from time to time. Most of the improvements have the aim to remove
spurs out of the power spectrum or to reduce the noise level. 
Yesterday I

run into a thing that may make it very qestionable whether DDS based
circuitry is in general good for precise timing applications.






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[time-nuts] AD9913 programmable modulus DDS. was: Re: An (unknown?) nasty feature of the DDS principle for time nuts applications

2011-01-25 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist

What you need is the AD9913.  It has a programmable modulus.
Now you're not stuck with 2^32.  You can pick any convenient
value.

Rick Karlquist N6RK

On 1/25/2011 5:37 AM, Ulrich Bangert wrote:

Gentlemen,

the pros and cons of DDS chips and how to improve them have been discussed
here from time to time. Most of the improvements have the aim to remove
spurs out of the power spectrum or to reduce the noise level. Yesterday I
run into a thing that may make it very qestionable whether DDS based
circuitry is in general good for precise timing applications.


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