[time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Henry Hallam
Dear time nuts,

Background:
I have built a GPS receiver based around the SE4120L front end IC [1].
 I used a KT3225 TCXO [2] at 16.3676MHz driving the front end through
a 10nF series capacitor as in the example circuit in [1].  Inside the
front end, this oscillator is multiplied up to form a local oscillator
at 1571.2896 MHz.  The 16.3676MHz signal is also divided to form a
4.0919MHz sampling clock.  Digital I and Q samples then go to a DSP
where the GPS signal processing is done in software.  My receiver
works nicely, getting it online was a boatload of fun and I'm hoping
to make it available soon along with open-source software as a GPS
experimenter's kit.

Problem:
I'd like to clock multiple receivers from a single 16.3676MHz
oscillator, in order to combine measurements from multiple antennas.
The clocks must be at the same frequency, i.e. from the same source,
but it is not necessary that they have any particular phase
relationship as phase offsets are removed in the navigation
processing.

What sort of distribution amplifier should I use to split the output
of one TCXO into four front ends?  Do I need some kind of impedance
matching network?  How would I go about designing that?  This sort of
analog/RF design is unfamiliar territory for me, though I'd like to
learn.

The TCXO advertises a minimum output level of 0.8Vpp into (10kohm in
parallel with 10pF).  The front end requires a minimum oscillator
drive level of 0.2Vpp.  The front end datasheet lists recommended
crystal parameters including a load capacitance of 10pF (typ),
although I don't know whether or not that refers to the front end
input capacitance.

My guess is that phase noise performance is not particularly crucial,
at least by time-nuts standards.  I guess it would be nice if the
amplifier didn't make the phase noise significantly worse than it
already is from the cheap TCXO.

Many thanks,
Henry Hallam

[1] 
http://www.sige.com/support/download-form.html?dl=DST-00059_SE4120L_Datasheet_Rev_3p5_CYW_May-26-2009.pdf
[2] http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/tcxo/172_e.pdf

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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths

Henry Hallam wrote:

Dear time nuts,

Background:
I have built a GPS receiver based around the SE4120L front end IC [1].
  I used a KT3225 TCXO [2] at 16.3676MHz driving the front end through
a 10nF series capacitor as in the example circuit in [1].  Inside the
front end, this oscillator is multiplied up to form a local oscillator
at 1571.2896 MHz.  The 16.3676MHz signal is also divided to form a
4.0919MHz sampling clock.  Digital I and Q samples then go to a DSP
where the GPS signal processing is done in software.  My receiver
works nicely, getting it online was a boatload of fun and I'm hoping
to make it available soon along with open-source software as a GPS
experimenter's kit.

Problem:
I'd like to clock multiple receivers from a single 16.3676MHz
oscillator, in order to combine measurements from multiple antennas.
The clocks must be at the same frequency, i.e. from the same source,
but it is not necessary that they have any particular phase
relationship as phase offsets are removed in the navigation
processing.

What sort of distribution amplifier should I use to split the output
of one TCXO into four front ends?  Do I need some kind of impedance
matching network?  How would I go about designing that?  This sort of
analog/RF design is unfamiliar territory for me, though I'd like to
learn.

The TCXO advertises a minimum output level of 0.8Vpp into (10kohm in
parallel with 10pF).  The front end requires a minimum oscillator
drive level of 0.2Vpp.  The front end datasheet lists recommended
crystal parameters including a load capacitance of 10pF (typ),
although I don't know whether or not that refers to the front end
input capacitance.

My guess is that phase noise performance is not particularly crucial,
at least by time-nuts standards.  I guess it would be nice if the
amplifier didn't make the phase noise significantly worse than it
already is from the cheap TCXO.

Many thanks,
Henry Hallam

[1] 
http://www.sige.com/support/download-form.html?dl=DST-00059_SE4120L_Datasheet_Rev_3p5_CYW_May-26-2009.pdf
[2] http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/tcxo/172_e.pdf

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The TCXO output waveform is presumably a clipped sinewave as required by 
the SE4120L?


In which case a linear distribution amplifier is probably required.

With only a ~3V supply available, options for the distribution amplifier 
topology are somewhat limited.
In principle you could use an emitter follower driving 4 other emitter 
followers with a resistor in series with the emitters of the output 
devices and the AC coupled loads to match the source to the 
interconnecting cable impedance to minimise reflections without 
requiring excessive dissipation in the emitter followers.
With the low voltage supply available, using an RF choke is series with 
the emitter follower's emitter to ground resistor will also be useful in 
achieving the required dynamic range.


Bruce


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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bob Camp

Hi

I suspect you will find that the phase noise floor of the distribution 
system does indeed matter.


Likely the easy way to go:

Square the TCXO up with a biased CMOS inverter (at least as fast as a 
74AC04). Run a seperate inverter to drive each of the receivers. A hex 
inverter chip would do it all quite nicely. There should be plenty of 
isolation and far more signal than is needed. Attenuating it at the receiver 
with a pair of resistors should get all the levels to match up. If you want 
to get fancy, transformer couple into each receiver after attenuating.


Bob

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Subject: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO


Dear time nuts,

Background:
I have built a GPS receiver based around the SE4120L front end IC [1].
I used a KT3225 TCXO [2] at 16.3676MHz driving the front end through
a 10nF series capacitor as in the example circuit in [1].  Inside the
front end, this oscillator is multiplied up to form a local oscillator
at 1571.2896 MHz.  The 16.3676MHz signal is also divided to form a
4.0919MHz sampling clock.  Digital I and Q samples then go to a DSP
where the GPS signal processing is done in software.  My receiver
works nicely, getting it online was a boatload of fun and I'm hoping
to make it available soon along with open-source software as a GPS
experimenter's kit.

Problem:
I'd like to clock multiple receivers from a single 16.3676MHz
oscillator, in order to combine measurements from multiple antennas.
The clocks must be at the same frequency, i.e. from the same source,
but it is not necessary that they have any particular phase
relationship as phase offsets are removed in the navigation
processing.

What sort of distribution amplifier should I use to split the output
of one TCXO into four front ends?  Do I need some kind of impedance
matching network?  How would I go about designing that?  This sort of
analog/RF design is unfamiliar territory for me, though I'd like to
learn.

The TCXO advertises a minimum output level of 0.8Vpp into (10kohm in
parallel with 10pF).  The front end requires a minimum oscillator
drive level of 0.2Vpp.  The front end datasheet lists recommended
crystal parameters including a load capacitance of 10pF (typ),
although I don't know whether or not that refers to the front end
input capacitance.

My guess is that phase noise performance is not particularly crucial,
at least by time-nuts standards.  I guess it would be nice if the
amplifier didn't make the phase noise significantly worse than it
already is from the cheap TCXO.

Many thanks,
Henry Hallam

[1] 
http://www.sige.com/support/download-form.html?dl=DST-00059_SE4120L_Datasheet_Rev_3p5_CYW_May-26-2009.pdf

[2] http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/tcxo/172_e.pdf

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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Henry Hallam
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Bruce Griffiths
bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote:

 The TCXO output waveform is presumably a clipped sinewave as required by the
 SE4120L?

I posted the waveform at
http://www.pericynthion.org/stuff/KT3225_500mV_per_div.jpg
Does that count as clipped sine?  If not, it seems to work anyway.


 In which case a linear distribution amplifier is probably required.

 With only a ~3V supply available, options for the distribution amplifier
 topology are somewhat limited.

I'm making a custom board that will include the TCXO and distribution
amplifier (as well as some digital stuff to allow the 4 receivers to
communicate), so it can have whatever power supplies it needs.

 In principle you could use an emitter follower driving 4 other emitter
 followers with a resistor in series with the emitters of the output devices
 and the AC coupled loads to match the source to the interconnecting cable
 impedance to minimise reflections without requiring excessive dissipation in
 the emitter followers.
 With the low voltage supply available, using an RF choke is series with the
 emitter follower's emitter to ground resistor will also be useful in
 achieving the required dynamic range.

Thanks.


Henry

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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The GPS receiver chip actually specifies that a clipped sinewave should 
be used.

Presumably this is necessary to limit the harmonic contents.
In which case low pass filtering the CMOS outputs may be necessary.
The 74AHC04 or equivalent may be a better choice as its ground and Vcc 
bounce is lower than that of a 74AC04.


Bruce

Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

I suspect you will find that the phase noise floor of the distribution 
system does indeed matter.


Likely the easy way to go:

Square the TCXO up with a biased CMOS inverter (at least as fast as a 
74AC04). Run a seperate inverter to drive each of the receivers. A hex 
inverter chip would do it all quite nicely. There should be plenty of 
isolation and far more signal than is needed. Attenuating it at the 
receiver with a pair of resistors should get all the levels to match 
up. If you want to get fancy, transformer couple into each receiver 
after attenuating.


Bob

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Subject: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO


Dear time nuts,

Background:
I have built a GPS receiver based around the SE4120L front end IC [1].
I used a KT3225 TCXO [2] at 16.3676MHz driving the front end through
a 10nF series capacitor as in the example circuit in [1].  Inside the
front end, this oscillator is multiplied up to form a local oscillator
at 1571.2896 MHz.  The 16.3676MHz signal is also divided to form a
4.0919MHz sampling clock.  Digital I and Q samples then go to a DSP
where the GPS signal processing is done in software.  My receiver
works nicely, getting it online was a boatload of fun and I'm hoping
to make it available soon along with open-source software as a GPS
experimenter's kit.

Problem:
I'd like to clock multiple receivers from a single 16.3676MHz
oscillator, in order to combine measurements from multiple antennas.
The clocks must be at the same frequency, i.e. from the same source,
but it is not necessary that they have any particular phase
relationship as phase offsets are removed in the navigation
processing.

What sort of distribution amplifier should I use to split the output
of one TCXO into four front ends?  Do I need some kind of impedance
matching network?  How would I go about designing that?  This sort of
analog/RF design is unfamiliar territory for me, though I'd like to
learn.

The TCXO advertises a minimum output level of 0.8Vpp into (10kohm in
parallel with 10pF).  The front end requires a minimum oscillator
drive level of 0.2Vpp.  The front end datasheet lists recommended
crystal parameters including a load capacitance of 10pF (typ),
although I don't know whether or not that refers to the front end
input capacitance.

My guess is that phase noise performance is not particularly crucial,
at least by time-nuts standards.  I guess it would be nice if the
amplifier didn't make the phase noise significantly worse than it
already is from the cheap TCXO.

Many thanks,
Henry Hallam

[1] 
http://www.sige.com/support/download-form.html?dl=DST-00059_SE4120L_Datasheet_Rev_3p5_CYW_May-26-2009.pdf 


[2] http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/tcxo/172_e.pdf

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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths

Henry Hallam wrote:

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Bruce Griffiths
bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz  wrote:

   

The TCXO output waveform is presumably a clipped sinewave as required by the
SE4120L?
 

I posted the waveform at
http://www.pericynthion.org/stuff/KT3225_500mV_per_div.jpg
Does that count as clipped sine?  If not, it seems to work anyway.

   

Its something like a clipped sine albeit with some ringing as it is clipped.

It more closely resembles a low pass filtered square wave.



In which case a linear distribution amplifier is probably required.

With only a ~3V supply available, options for the distribution amplifier
topology are somewhat limited.
 

I'm making a custom board that will include the TCXO and distribution
amplifier (as well as some digital stuff to allow the 4 receivers to
communicate), so it can have whatever power supplies it needs.

   

In principle you could use an emitter follower driving 4 other emitter
followers with a resistor in series with the emitters of the output devices
and the AC coupled loads to match the source to the interconnecting cable
impedance to minimise reflections without requiring excessive dissipation in
the emitter followers.
With the low voltage supply available, using an RF choke is series with the
emitter follower's emitter to ground resistor will also be useful in
achieving the required dynamic range.
 

Thanks.


Henry

   

Bruce


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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The phase noise floor of the HC is *much* higher than the floor of the AC 
gates. The main reason it specifies clipped sine is that's what the cheap 
TCXO's put out. 

Bob


On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:

 The GPS receiver chip actually specifies that a clipped sinewave should be 
 used.
 Presumably this is necessary to limit the harmonic contents.
 In which case low pass filtering the CMOS outputs may be necessary.
 The 74AHC04 or equivalent may be a better choice as its ground and Vcc bounce 
 is lower than that of a 74AC04.
 
 Bruce
 
 Bob Camp wrote:
 Hi
 
 I suspect you will find that the phase noise floor of the distribution 
 system does indeed matter.
 
 Likely the easy way to go:
 
 Square the TCXO up with a biased CMOS inverter (at least as fast as a 
 74AC04). Run a seperate inverter to drive each of the receivers. A hex 
 inverter chip would do it all quite nicely. There should be plenty of 
 isolation and far more signal than is needed. Attenuating it at the receiver 
 with a pair of resistors should get all the levels to match up. If you want 
 to get fancy, transformer couple into each receiver after attenuating.
 
 Bob
 
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 From: Henry Hallam he...@pericynthion.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 1:46 PM
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
 time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO
 
 Dear time nuts,
 
 Background:
 I have built a GPS receiver based around the SE4120L front end IC [1].
 I used a KT3225 TCXO [2] at 16.3676MHz driving the front end through
 a 10nF series capacitor as in the example circuit in [1].  Inside the
 front end, this oscillator is multiplied up to form a local oscillator
 at 1571.2896 MHz.  The 16.3676MHz signal is also divided to form a
 4.0919MHz sampling clock.  Digital I and Q samples then go to a DSP
 where the GPS signal processing is done in software.  My receiver
 works nicely, getting it online was a boatload of fun and I'm hoping
 to make it available soon along with open-source software as a GPS
 experimenter's kit.
 
 Problem:
 I'd like to clock multiple receivers from a single 16.3676MHz
 oscillator, in order to combine measurements from multiple antennas.
 The clocks must be at the same frequency, i.e. from the same source,
 but it is not necessary that they have any particular phase
 relationship as phase offsets are removed in the navigation
 processing.
 
 What sort of distribution amplifier should I use to split the output
 of one TCXO into four front ends?  Do I need some kind of impedance
 matching network?  How would I go about designing that?  This sort of
 analog/RF design is unfamiliar territory for me, though I'd like to
 learn.
 
 The TCXO advertises a minimum output level of 0.8Vpp into (10kohm in
 parallel with 10pF).  The front end requires a minimum oscillator
 drive level of 0.2Vpp.  The front end datasheet lists recommended
 crystal parameters including a load capacitance of 10pF (typ),
 although I don't know whether or not that refers to the front end
 input capacitance.
 
 My guess is that phase noise performance is not particularly crucial,
 at least by time-nuts standards.  I guess it would be nice if the
 amplifier didn't make the phase noise significantly worse than it
 already is from the cheap TCXO.
 
 Many thanks,
 Henry Hallam
 
 [1] 
 http://www.sige.com/support/download-form.html?dl=DST-00059_SE4120L_Datasheet_Rev_3p5_CYW_May-26-2009.pdf
  
 [2] http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/tcxo/172_e.pdf
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Is that also true for AHC devices which otherwise have similar 
characteristics (apart from ground bounce) to AC devices?


Bruce


Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

The phase noise floor of the HC is *much* higher than the floor of the AC 
gates. The main reason it specifies clipped sine is that's what the cheap 
TCXO's put out.

Bob


On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:

   

The GPS receiver chip actually specifies that a clipped sinewave should be used.
Presumably this is necessary to limit the harmonic contents.
In which case low pass filtering the CMOS outputs may be necessary.
The 74AHC04 or equivalent may be a better choice as its ground and Vcc bounce 
is lower than that of a 74AC04.

Bruce

Bob Camp wrote:
 

Hi

I suspect you will find that the phase noise floor of the distribution system 
does indeed matter.

Likely the easy way to go:

Square the TCXO up with a biased CMOS inverter (at least as fast as a 74AC04). 
Run a seperate inverter to drive each of the receivers. A hex inverter chip 
would do it all quite nicely. There should be plenty of isolation and far more 
signal than is needed. Attenuating it at the receiver with a pair of resistors 
should get all the levels to match up. If you want to get fancy, transformer 
couple into each receiver after attenuating.

Bob

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Subject: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

   

Dear time nuts,

Background:
I have built a GPS receiver based around the SE4120L front end IC [1].
I used a KT3225 TCXO [2] at 16.3676MHz driving the front end through
a 10nF series capacitor as in the example circuit in [1].  Inside the
front end, this oscillator is multiplied up to form a local oscillator
at 1571.2896 MHz.  The 16.3676MHz signal is also divided to form a
4.0919MHz sampling clock.  Digital I and Q samples then go to a DSP
where the GPS signal processing is done in software.  My receiver
works nicely, getting it online was a boatload of fun and I'm hoping
to make it available soon along with open-source software as a GPS
experimenter's kit.

Problem:
I'd like to clock multiple receivers from a single 16.3676MHz
oscillator, in order to combine measurements from multiple antennas.
The clocks must be at the same frequency, i.e. from the same source,
but it is not necessary that they have any particular phase
relationship as phase offsets are removed in the navigation
processing.

What sort of distribution amplifier should I use to split the output
of one TCXO into four front ends?  Do I need some kind of impedance
matching network?  How would I go about designing that?  This sort of
analog/RF design is unfamiliar territory for me, though I'd like to
learn.

The TCXO advertises a minimum output level of 0.8Vpp into (10kohm in
parallel with 10pF).  The front end requires a minimum oscillator
drive level of 0.2Vpp.  The front end datasheet lists recommended
crystal parameters including a load capacitance of 10pF (typ),
although I don't know whether or not that refers to the front end
input capacitance.

My guess is that phase noise performance is not particularly crucial,
at least by time-nuts standards.  I guess it would be nice if the
amplifier didn't make the phase noise significantly worse than it
already is from the cheap TCXO.

Many thanks,
Henry Hallam

[1] 
http://www.sige.com/support/download-form.html?dl=DST-00059_SE4120L_Datasheet_Rev_3p5_CYW_May-26-2009.pdf
[2] http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/tcxo/172_e.pdf

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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths

Bruce Griffiths wrote:


In which case a linear distribution amplifier is probably required.

With only a ~3V supply available, options for the distribution 
amplifier topology are somewhat limited.
In principle you could use an emitter follower driving 4 other emitter 
followers with a resistor in series with the emitters of the output 
devices and the AC coupled loads to match the source to the 
interconnecting cable impedance to minimise reflections without 
requiring excessive dissipation in the emitter followers.
With the low voltage supply available, using an RF choke is series 
with the emitter follower's emitter to ground resistor will also be 
useful in achieving the required dynamic range.


Bruce


A more efficient buffer amplifier circuit schematic is attached.

The series transformer feedback stage has high input impedance and an 
output impedance matched to the transmission line (yes it works well 
with long transmission lines as well).

However a trifilar wound RF transformer is required.

In principle the various GPS receivers could be connected to taps along 
an end terminated transmission line using feedthrough connections with 
compensation for the tap shunt capacitance  if necessary.


A lower impedance line (eg 50 ohms) could also be driven at the expense 
of a higher collector current.
In this case the value of R3 would need to be reduced to around 100 ohms 
or so.


Bruce
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Re: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO

2010-08-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

It's a speed thing. The faster silicon based CMOS is , the quieter it seems to 
be. 

Bob


On Aug 4, 2010, at 8:21 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:

 Is that also true for AHC devices which otherwise have similar 
 characteristics (apart from ground bounce) to AC devices?
 
 Bruce
 
 
 Bob Camp wrote:
 Hi
 
 The phase noise floor of the HC is *much* higher than the floor of the AC 
 gates. The main reason it specifies clipped sine is that's what the cheap 
 TCXO's put out.
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Aug 4, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote:
 
   
 The GPS receiver chip actually specifies that a clipped sinewave should be 
 used.
 Presumably this is necessary to limit the harmonic contents.
 In which case low pass filtering the CMOS outputs may be necessary.
 The 74AHC04 or equivalent may be a better choice as its ground and Vcc 
 bounce is lower than that of a 74AC04.
 
 Bruce
 
 Bob Camp wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 I suspect you will find that the phase noise floor of the distribution 
 system does indeed matter.
 
 Likely the easy way to go:
 
 Square the TCXO up with a biased CMOS inverter (at least as fast as a 
 74AC04). Run a seperate inverter to drive each of the receivers. A hex 
 inverter chip would do it all quite nicely. There should be plenty of 
 isolation and far more signal than is needed. Attenuating it at the 
 receiver with a pair of resistors should get all the levels to match up. 
 If you want to get fancy, transformer couple into each receiver after 
 attenuating.
 
 Bob
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 1:46 PM
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency 
 measurementtime-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: [time-nuts] Buffer / distribution amplifier for TCXO
 
   
 Dear time nuts,
 
 Background:
 I have built a GPS receiver based around the SE4120L front end IC [1].
 I used a KT3225 TCXO [2] at 16.3676MHz driving the front end through
 a 10nF series capacitor as in the example circuit in [1].  Inside the
 front end, this oscillator is multiplied up to form a local oscillator
 at 1571.2896 MHz.  The 16.3676MHz signal is also divided to form a
 4.0919MHz sampling clock.  Digital I and Q samples then go to a DSP
 where the GPS signal processing is done in software.  My receiver
 works nicely, getting it online was a boatload of fun and I'm hoping
 to make it available soon along with open-source software as a GPS
 experimenter's kit.
 
 Problem:
 I'd like to clock multiple receivers from a single 16.3676MHz
 oscillator, in order to combine measurements from multiple antennas.
 The clocks must be at the same frequency, i.e. from the same source,
 but it is not necessary that they have any particular phase
 relationship as phase offsets are removed in the navigation
 processing.
 
 What sort of distribution amplifier should I use to split the output
 of one TCXO into four front ends?  Do I need some kind of impedance
 matching network?  How would I go about designing that?  This sort of
 analog/RF design is unfamiliar territory for me, though I'd like to
 learn.
 
 The TCXO advertises a minimum output level of 0.8Vpp into (10kohm in
 parallel with 10pF).  The front end requires a minimum oscillator
 drive level of 0.2Vpp.  The front end datasheet lists recommended
 crystal parameters including a load capacitance of 10pF (typ),
 although I don't know whether or not that refers to the front end
 input capacitance.
 
 My guess is that phase noise performance is not particularly crucial,
 at least by time-nuts standards.  I guess it would be nice if the
 amplifier didn't make the phase noise significantly worse than it
 already is from the cheap TCXO.
 
 Many thanks,
 Henry Hallam
 
 [1] 
 http://www.sige.com/support/download-form.html?dl=DST-00059_SE4120L_Datasheet_Rev_3p5_CYW_May-26-2009.pdf
 [2] http://global.kyocera.com/prdct/electro/pdf/tcxo/172_e.pdf
 
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