[time-nuts] Chilean quake shifted Earth's axis. The length of the day shorter by 1.26 microseconds ?

2010-03-01 Thread mc0fred

Interesting that the effect could be this large.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/chilean-quake-shifted-earths-axis-nasa-scientist-20100302-peqe.html?autostart=1



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Re: [time-nuts] Chilean quake shifted Earth's axis. The length of the day shorter by 1.26 microseconds ?

2010-03-01 Thread Henry Hallam
How would one go about verifying this? The angular difference after 1
year is about 3E-8 radians, which is probably well beyond the absolute
pointing accuracy of any telescope, and swamped by lunar tidal
deceleration anyway.

Henry

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:36 PM, mc0fred mc0f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting that the effect could be this large.

 http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/chilean-quake-shifted-earths-axis-nasa-scientist-20100302-peqe.html?autostart=1



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Re: [time-nuts] Chilean quake shifted Earth's axis. The length of the day shorter by 1.26 microseconds ?

2010-03-01 Thread J. Forster
3E-8 radians is 0.03 microradians. A microradian is about 5 arc-seconds,
so about 0.15 arc-seconds per year. I think that's in the range that could
be observed either optically or by VLBI.

-John

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 How would one go about verifying this? The angular difference after 1
 year is about 3E-8 radians, which is probably well beyond the absolute
 pointing accuracy of any telescope, and swamped by lunar tidal
 deceleration anyway.

 Henry

 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:36 PM, mc0fred mc0f...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting that the effect could be this large.

 http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/chilean-quake-shifted-earths-axis-nasa-scientist-20100302-peqe.html?autostart=1



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[time-nuts] Chilean quake shifted Earth's axis. The length of the day shorter by 1.26 microseconds ?

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sims

Pretty trivial to do with GPS where a 1 ns error is under 1 foot of position 
error (and a geodetic grade GPS can give sub-millimeter accuracy)...  even a 
cheap consumer grade unit is under 10 feet of error.   1.26 us of orbital 
change is over 1100 feet of error. 

One trick is to compare the pre-earthquake GPS almanac/ephemeris data with the 
post earthquake data.  I suspect that a lot of geodetic monitoring stations are 
scrambling to keep up with what the earth is currently doing.


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How would one go about verifying this? The angular difference after 1
year is about 3E-8 radians, which is probably well beyond the absolute
pointing accuracy of any telescope, and swamped by lunar tidal
deceleration anyway.

  
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Re: [time-nuts] Chilean quake shifted Earth's axis. The length of the day shorter by 1.26 microseconds ?

2010-03-01 Thread Henry Hallam
Of course... I am designing a GPS receiver as my day job and didn't
think of that ;)

Henry

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Pretty trivial to do with GPS where a 1 ns error is under 1 foot of position 
 error (and a geodetic grade GPS can give sub-millimeter accuracy)...  even a 
 cheap consumer grade unit is under 10 feet of error.   1.26 us of orbital 
 change is over 1100 feet of error.

 One trick is to compare the pre-earthquake GPS almanac/ephemeris data with 
 the post earthquake data.  I suspect that a lot of geodetic monitoring 
 stations are scrambling to keep up with what the earth is currently doing.


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 How would one go about verifying this? The angular difference after 1
 year is about 3E-8 radians, which is probably well beyond the absolute
 pointing accuracy of any telescope, and swamped by lunar tidal
 deceleration anyway.


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