Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[Attila Kinali]

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:56:12 -0700
Hal Murray  wrote:

> att...@kinali.ch said:
> > Is there any advantage of using groups.io compared to a traditional
> > mailinglist? If not, I would prefer a traditional mailinglist. But maybe I
> > am just oldfashioned :-) 
> 
> The obvious advantage is that there is a professional staff keeping things 
> running so you don't need your own admin/wizard.

But be aware that professional does not mean they are proficient,
just they are paid for doing it. Back in the days, MPlayer and FFmpeg
were hosted on sourceforge. We had about one outage/something not working
correctly once per month.. at least. When we moved to our own infrastructure
all problems went away. In the 10 years I took care of it, there was a total
downtime of about 2 or 3 days. febo.com (John Ackermans site which hosts
time-nuts) shows a similar track record, probably even better. Show me one
commercial service that has the same up-time performance. 

Also, a couple of us already have the required infrastructure running.
Adding another mailinglist would not be a problem.
 
Anyways.. this is getting way too off topic, so I make this my last mail
on this.

If anyone wants, I can host the mailinglist. Or we can ask John.


Attila Kinali
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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[Hal Murray]

att...@kinali.ch said:
> Is there any advantage of using groups.io compared to a traditional
> mailinglist? If not, I would prefer a traditional mailinglist. But maybe I
> am just oldfashioned :-) 

The obvious advantage is that there is a professional staff keeping things 
running so you don't need your own admin/wizard.

The part I'm missing is where do they get their cash?  Are they adding ads?  
(maybe only on the web version)  Are they collecting data and selling it?  
(This list is public so a lot of data is already available.)

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These are my opinions.  I hate spam.



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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[David]

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:44:17 +0200, you wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:20:59 -0400
>Bob Bownes  wrote:
>
>> Just finished creating it at groups.io
>>
>> *https://groups.io/g/svna *
>> and sign up. :)
>
>Is there any advantage of using groups.io compared to a traditional
>mailinglist? If not, I would prefer a traditional mailinglist.
>But maybe I am just oldfashioned :-)
>
>   Attila Kinali

It has features not typically associated with mailing lists like web
access (yuck!) and file storage and if abandoning a Yahoo group, they
can transfer the old contents over.  Traditional email clients can
still be used for access and I think threading works although I have
not really tested it.
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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[David & Laura]

I also prefer old-style e-mail-only mailing lists. Fortunately, you can
subscribe to a groups.io mailing list via e-mail. Just send “SUBSCRIBE" in
the body to svna+subscr...@groups.io

Thanks,

David Slik
VE7FIM

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Wes  wrote:

> I agree.
>
> On 8/22/2016 2:44 PM, Attila Kinali wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:20:59 -0400
>> Bob Bownes  wrote:
>>
>> Just finished creating it at groups.io
>>>
>>> *https://groups.io/g/svna *
>>> and sign up. :)
>>>
>> Is there any advantage of using groups.io compared to a traditional
>> mailinglist? If not, I would prefer a traditional mailinglist.
>> But maybe I am just oldfashioned :-)
>>
>> Attila Kinali
>>
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[Wes]

I agree.

On 8/22/2016 2:44 PM, Attila Kinali wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:20:59 -0400
Bob Bownes  wrote:


Just finished creating it at groups.io

*https://groups.io/g/svna *
and sign up. :)

Is there any advantage of using groups.io compared to a traditional
mailinglist? If not, I would prefer a traditional mailinglist.
But maybe I am just oldfashioned :-)

Attila Kinali



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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[Attila Kinali]

On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 14:20:59 -0400
Bob Bownes  wrote:

> Just finished creating it at groups.io
>
> *https://groups.io/g/svna *
> and sign up. :)

Is there any advantage of using groups.io compared to a traditional
mailinglist? If not, I would prefer a traditional mailinglist.
But maybe I am just oldfashioned :-)

Attila Kinali

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the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no 
use without that foundation.
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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[Bob Bownes]

Just finished creating it at groups.io



*https://groups.io/g/svna <https://groups.io/g/svna>*
and sign up. :)


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Tom Miller 
wrote:

> Maybe do it on Mewe.com?
>
> - Original Message - From: "Oz-in-DFW" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]
>
>
>
> So is it time for VNA-Nuts?  I can probably host it.
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[Tom Miller]

Maybe do it on Mewe.com?

- Original Message - 
From: "Oz-in-DFW" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]



So is it time for VNA-Nuts?  I can probably host it.

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Re: [time-nuts] DIY VNA design [VNA-Nuts?]

[Oz-in-DFW]

So is it time for VNA-Nuts?  I can probably host it.

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