[time-nuts] DTV tuner chip usable for GPS front end?

2012-03-21 Thread beale
I suppose there is limited interest in homebrew GPS receivers given how cheap 
the fully integrated chipsets are. However, just noticed the below tuner chip 
intended for DTV, actually lists GPS L1 as an applicable frequency.  A TV Tuner 
USB stick using this chip is available for $20, and some SDR type software is 
apparently working with it: 
http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr   Has anyone here played with this 
device?

from http://www.elonics.com/product.do?id=1
The E4000 is a highly integrated multi band RF tuner IC implemented in CMOS, 
ideal for low power digital terrestrial TV and radio broadcast receiver 
solutions.  The E4000 contains a single input LNA with RF filter, whose centre 
frequency can be programmed over the complete frequency range from 64MHz to 
1700MHz.

Broadcast Standards
DVB-T (174-240MHz, 470-854MHz)
ISDB-T (470-862MHz)
DVB-H (470-854MHz, 1672-1678MHz)
CMMB (470-862MHz)
D-TMB (470-862MHz)
T-DMB (174-240MHz, 1452-1492MHz)
DAB (174-240MHz, 1452-1492MHz)
MediaFLO (470-862, 1452-1492MHz)
GPS L1 band (1575MHz)

[...]

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Re: [time-nuts] DTV tuner chip usable for GPS front end?

2012-03-21 Thread David J Taylor
I suppose there is limited interest in homebrew GPS receivers given how 
cheap the fully integrated chipsets are. However, just noticed the below 
tuner chip intended for DTV, actually lists GPS L1 as an applicable 
frequency.  A TV Tuner USB stick using this chip is available for $20, 
and some SDR type software is apparently working with it:
http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr   Has anyone here played with 
this device?


from http://www.elonics.com/product.do?id=1
The E4000 is a highly integrated multi band RF tuner IC implemented in 
CMOS, ideal for low power digital terrestrial TV and radio broadcast 
receiver solutions.  The E4000 contains a single input LNA with RF 
filter, whose centre frequency can be programmed over the complete 
frequency range from 64MHz to 1700MHz.


Broadcast Standards
   DVB-T (174-240MHz, 470-854MHz)
   ISDB-T (470-862MHz)
   DVB-H (470-854MHz, 1672-1678MHz)
   CMMB (470-862MHz)
   D-TMB (470-862MHz)
   T-DMB (174-240MHz, 1452-1492MHz)
   DAB (174-240MHz, 1452-1492MHz)
   MediaFLO (470-862, 1452-1492MHz)
   GPS L1 band (1575MHz)

[...]


.. and available ready built here:

 http://www.funcubedongle.com/

but perhaps not fast enough for you.

Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk 



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Re: [time-nuts] DTV tuner chip usable for GPS front end?

2012-03-21 Thread David
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:40:27 -, David J Taylor
david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 I suppose there is limited interest in homebrew GPS receivers given how 
 cheap the fully integrated chipsets are. However, just noticed the below 
 tuner chip intended for DTV, actually lists GPS L1 as an applicable 
 frequency.  A TV Tuner USB stick using this chip is available for $20, 
 and some SDR type software is apparently working with it:
 http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr   Has anyone here played with 
 this device?

 from http://www.elonics.com/product.do?id=1
 The E4000 is a highly integrated multi band RF tuner IC implemented in 
 CMOS, ideal for low power digital terrestrial TV and radio broadcast 
 receiver solutions.  The E4000 contains a single input LNA with RF 
 filter, whose centre frequency can be programmed over the complete 
 frequency range from 64MHz to 1700MHz.

 Broadcast Standards
DVB-T (174-240MHz, 470-854MHz)
ISDB-T (470-862MHz)
DVB-H (470-854MHz, 1672-1678MHz)
CMMB (470-862MHz)
D-TMB (470-862MHz)
T-DMB (174-240MHz, 1452-1492MHz)
DAB (174-240MHz, 1452-1492MHz)
MediaFLO (470-862, 1452-1492MHz)
GPS L1 band (1575MHz)

 [...]

.. and available ready built here:

  http://www.funcubedongle.com/

but perhaps not fast enough for you.

Or not wide enough in this case.  The FunCube technical FAQ says the
bandwidth is about 80 KHz as it is designed for narrow band reception
only and accessed as a standard USB sound device.  I do not quite
understand how 96 Ksamples/sec yields 80 KHz though:

Q. What is the bandwidth?
A. 96kHz is the quadrature sampling rate. Once the ADC’s decimation
filter skirts have been taken into account, you have about 80kHz.


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Re: [time-nuts] DTV tuner chip usable for GPS front end?

2012-03-21 Thread David J Taylor

 http://www.funcubedongle.com/

but perhaps not fast enough for you.


Or not wide enough in this case.  The FunCube technical FAQ says the
bandwidth is about 80 KHz as it is designed for narrow band reception
only and accessed as a standard USB sound device.  I do not quite
understand how 96 Ksamples/sec yields 80 KHz though:

Q. What is the bandwidth?
A. 96kHz is the quadrature sampling rate. Once the ADC's decimation
filter skirts have been taken into account, you have about 80kHz.


.. because they are quadrature samples, so it's +/- 40 KHz.  In fact some 
of the software driver the device at 192 KHz, yielding almost enough 
bandwidth for FM stereo (but not quite).  +/- 80 KHz RF, about 80 KHz 
baseband.


Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web:  http://www.satsignal.eu
Email:  david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk 



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Re: [time-nuts] DTV tuner chip usable for GPS front end?

2012-03-21 Thread Jim Lux

On 3/21/12 9:17 AM, beale wrote:

I suppose there is limited interest in homebrew GPS receivers given how cheap 
the fully integrated chipsets are. However, just noticed the below tuner chip 
intended for DTV, actually lists GPS L1 as an applicable frequency.  A TV Tuner 
USB stick using this chip is available for $20, and some SDR type software is 
apparently working with it:
http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr   Has anyone here played with this 
device?

from http://www.elonics.com/product.do?id=1
The E4000 is a highly integrated multi band RF tuner IC implemented in CMOS, ideal 
for low power digital terrestrial TV and radio broadcast receiver solutions.  The E4000 
contains a single input LNA with RF filter, whose centre frequency can be programmed over 
the complete frequency range from 64MHz to 1700MHz.



Isn't that what they're using in the FunCubeDongle?


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