Re: [time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

[Bob Bownes]

However, setting it to 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007 and leaving t alone for an hour
or two seems to have done the trick.

Thanks folks! Off to look at adev/pn of the $7 GPS boards I found with
10MHz out. Plots soon.

Bob


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Bob Bownes  wrote:

> Yup. tried that too.
>
> The system won't let me set the date after 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Bob kb8tq  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You
>> have to dump them all before you try something.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> > On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes  wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks John.
>> >
>> > When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.
>> >
>> > Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.
>> >
>> > Here's what I get:
>> > scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
>> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
>> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
>> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
>> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
>> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
>> > E-222>
>> >
>> > Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset
>> the
>> > location.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Try:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Shut off power to the GPS receiver
>> >>
>> >> Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead
>> >>
>> >> Reapply power to the GPS receiver
>> >>
>> >> Enter  *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and
>> >> 2017)
>> >>
>> >> Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to.
>> It’s
>> >> been on the shelf for about a year (off).
>> >>
>> >> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
>> >> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no
>> difference.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
>> >> time/date are way out.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> Bob
>> >>
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Re: [time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

[Bob Bownes]

Yup. tried that too.

The system won't let me set the date after 23:59:59 Dec 12,2007



On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Bob kb8tq  wrote:

> Hi
>
> One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You
> have to dump them all before you try something.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks John.
> >
> > When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.
> >
> > Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.
> >
> > Here's what I get:
> > scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
> > E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
> > E-222>
> >
> > Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset
> the
> > location.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke  wrote:
> >
> >> Try:
> >>
> >>
> >> Shut off power to the GPS receiver
> >>
> >> Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead
> >>
> >> Reapply power to the GPS receiver
> >>
> >> Enter  *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and
> >> 2017)
> >>
> >> Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait
> >>
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes  wrote:
> >>
> >> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to.
> It’s
> >> been on the shelf for about a year (off).
> >>
> >> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
> >> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no
> difference.
> >>
> >> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
> >> time/date are way out.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Bob
> >>
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Re: [time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

[Bob kb8tq]

Hi

One thing that has faked me out on SCPI - they cache error messages. You 
have to dump them all before you try something. 

Bob

> On Nov 16, 2017, at 11:24 AM, Bob Bownes  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John.
> 
> When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.
> 
> Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.
> 
> Here's what I get:
> scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
> E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
> E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
> E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
> E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
> E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
> E-222>
> 
> Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset the
> location.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke  wrote:
> 
>> Try:
>> 
>> 
>> Shut off power to the GPS receiver
>> 
>> Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead
>> 
>> Reapply power to the GPS receiver
>> 
>> Enter  *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and
>> 2017)
>> 
>> Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes  wrote:
>> 
>> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s
>> been on the shelf for about a year (off).
>> 
>> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
>> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference.
>> 
>> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
>> time/date are way out.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Bob
>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

[Bob Bownes]

Thanks John.

When I do this, I get the E-222 error indicating 'Data out of range'.

Tried several formats, trailing';', etc.

Here's what I get:
scpi > :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,11,16
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01;
E-222> :GPS:INIT:DATE 17,01,01;
E-222>

Even tried a :SYSTEM:PRESET, whic interestingly enough, does not reset the
location.

Bob

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:49 AM, John Franke  wrote:

> Try:
>
>
> Shut off power to the GPS receiver
>
> Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead
>
> Reapply power to the GPS receiver
>
> Enter  *:GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01* (The only space is between DATE and
> 2017)
>
> Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait
>
>
> John
>
> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes  wrote:
>
> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s
> been on the shelf for about a year (off).
>
> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any.
> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference.
>
> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the
> time/date are way out.
>
> Thanks!
> Bob
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

[John Franke]

Try:


Shut off power to the GPS receiver

Disconnect the GPS antenna downlead

Reapply power to the GPS receiver

Enter  :GPS:INIT:DATE 2017,01,01 (The only space is between DATE and 2017)

Reconnect the GPS antenna downlead and wait


John

> 
> On November 14, 2017 at 10:43 PM Bob Bownes  wrote:
> 
> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s 
> been on the shelf for about a year (off).
> 
> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. 
> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference.
> 
> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the 
> time/date are way out.
> 
> Thanks!
> Bob
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

[Mike Cook]

> Le 15 nov. 2017 à 04:43, Bob Bownes  a écrit :
> 
> 
> I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s 
> been on the shelf for about a year (off). 
> 
> I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. 
> Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference. 
> 
> Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the time/date 
> are way out. 

  Probably GPS week rollover. I think the fix is to power it up with the 
antenna disconnected, set te date and time manually and then reconnect the 
antenna.

> 
> Thanks!
> Bob
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[time-nuts] Deaf Z3801

[Bob Bownes]

I put my 3801 back in service the day before yesterday, or tried to. It’s been 
on the shelf for about a year (off). 

I powered it up, and while it sees a few sats, it will not acquire any. 
Changing to a known good antenna (off the NTP server) makes no difference. 

Anyone seen the behavior before? The location data is good, but the time/date 
are way out. 

Thanks!
Bob
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