Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 DDS plot

2012-02-06 Thread Magnus Danielson

On 02/06/2012 02:56 AM, Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

I suspect it's a linear compensation of a temperature effect that's actually 
higher order. Depending on exactly where you are it could be a good thing or a 
very bad thing. I have seen examples of both …


Indeed. If you sit tight the detectors resolution will be more of an 
issue than anything else.


Cheers,
Magnus

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Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 DDS plot

2012-02-05 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

I suspect it's a linear compensation of a temperature effect that's actually 
higher order. Depending on exactly where you are it could be a good thing or a 
very bad thing. I have seen examples of both …

Bob

On Feb 5, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote:

 On 02/02/2012 06:15 AM, Scott Newell wrote:
 Javier Herrero's exciting DDS discovery led to this plot of the unit
 tweaking the frequency (cmd 0x22):
 
 http://n5tnl.com/time/fe-5680a/graphs/dds_autotuning.png
 
 It appears to make an adjustment even before lock!
 
 
 It is interesting how the DDS frequency compensates the temperature. Should 
 mostly improve performance on start-up or unstable thermal situations, but be 
 of fairly low improvement on static conditions.
 
 Cheers,
 Magnus
 
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Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 DDS plot

2012-02-02 Thread Javier Herrero

Great plot :)

I've a dump of the SPI transfers during a night taken with the logic 
analyzer... but have found no time yet to process the dump to extract 
the transfers. Of course it is easier to take it from the serial port 
data :)


The adjustment looks quite closely related to the temperature.

Regards,

Javier

El 02/02/2012 06:15, Scott Newell escribió:
Javier Herrero's exciting DDS discovery led to this plot of the unit 
tweaking the frequency (cmd 0x22):


http://n5tnl.com/time/fe-5680a/graphs/dds_autotuning.png

It appears to make an adjustment even before lock!



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Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 DDS plot

2012-02-02 Thread Javier Herrero
I forgot... have you had the opportunity to check if the difference 
between the two DDS programming words is the same in all cases? All my 
readings leds to 1400.00x Hz, I've not looked at it but probably the 
difference in DDS counts is constant.


Regards,

Javier

El 02/02/2012 10:13, Javier Herrero escribió:

Great plot :)

I've a dump of the SPI transfers during a night taken with the logic 
analyzer... but have found no time yet to process the dump to extract 
the transfers. Of course it is easier to take it from the serial port 
data :)


The adjustment looks quite closely related to the temperature.

Regards,

Javier

El 02/02/2012 06:15, Scott Newell escribió:
Javier Herrero's exciting DDS discovery led to this plot of the unit 
tweaking the frequency (cmd 0x22):


http://n5tnl.com/time/fe-5680a/graphs/dds_autotuning.png

It appears to make an adjustment even before lock!



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Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 DDS plot

2012-02-02 Thread Scott Newell

At 03:20 AM 2/2/2012, Javier Herrero wrote:
I forgot... have you had the opportunity to check if the difference 
between the two DDS programming words is the same in all cases? All 
my readings leds to 1400.00x Hz, I've not looked at it but probably 
the difference in DDS counts is constant.


So far, it's been a constant 1400.001347 Hz.  But I've not dialed in 
a range of offsets yet.


According to cmd 0x22, my non-locking unit appears to startup with 
the DDS at 2.527819 and 18.755189 MHz. (!)


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[time-nuts] FE5680 DDS plot

2012-02-01 Thread Scott Newell
Javier Herrero's exciting DDS discovery led to this plot of the unit 
tweaking the frequency (cmd 0x22):


http://n5tnl.com/time/fe-5680a/graphs/dds_autotuning.png

It appears to make an adjustment even before lock!

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newell  N5TNL


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