Re: [time-nuts] HP 3010Axxxxx oscillator

2016-08-16 Thread Charles Steinmetz

Corby wrote:


The 3010A prefix identifies that date it was made.


Specifically, it identifies the "series" of the product -- the date the 
last revision to the product was adopted.  The "3010" part is the 
encoded date for that particular series (10th week of the 30th year past 
HP "year one"), and the "A" indicates that it was manufactured in the 
US.  [I've forgotten what "year one" was for the Instrument Division. 
It was 1960 for the calculators -- I/D may also have used 1960.]


Best regards,

Charles


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[time-nuts] HP 3010Axxxxx oscillator

2016-08-16 Thread cdelect
Perry, 
 
The 3010A prefix identifies that date it was made.
 
It should also have a 10811A marking.
 
The resistor value is for applications needing precise EFC.
 
Usually found in HP 5065A, 5061A, and 5061B.
 
If it also has a 60109 marking it has slightly better short term
stability at one Tau.
 
Specs are otherwise the same as any 10811A.
 
There is no outer oven!
 
Since the design is a complete departure from the original 105 oscillator
it makes sense they issued a  new part ID.
 
The 10811A started to go into the 105A and the 5061A and 5065A after the
105 style oscillator was discontinued.
 
Cheers,
 
Corby

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[time-nuts] HP 3010Axxxxx oscillator

2016-08-15 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
Hi,
In the two HP 105B's I recently acquired both had the 10 Mhz 3010A series 
oscillator which appears to be pin for pin compatible with the HP 10811 series 
but it has a resistor value listed on the outer case.
Trying to research it, the HP 105A/B supplement vaguely said to take a look at 
the HP 10811 ski.
I'm still in the dark about it, so several questions.
How good is it compared to the HP 10811?
Is it worth the effort as some point to change the outer oven to WarrenS's 
circuit?
There is some mention of using a LM723 regulator circuit.  Is it worthwhile to 
re-work the PS to one with better regulation?
And lastly, Rick K might know the answer to this:  Why didn't HP bring out the 
10 MHz as a "new feature" and call it the HP 105A/B Mod II or something?
Regards,
Perrier
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