Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based frequencycontrol

2006-07-12 Thread Didier Juges
I agree with that. I have an HP 3586A Selective Voltmeter and it has the 
LO output on the rear which covers 0-32 MHz. I wish there was a 
programmable attenuator on this output as it is exceptionally clean 
spectrally. Of course, there is no modulation capability.

Didier KO4BB

Magnus Danielson wrote:
 ...
 The only thing which annoys me is that it doesn't go higher in frequency and
 that I wish I could run the modulation source internally even if I like the
 contacts at the back. If you don't get the modulation source to do anything
 reasnoble, check if you have hooked up a cable!

 Cheers,
 Magnus

 


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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based frequencycontrol

2006-07-12 Thread John Day
At 05:14 AM 7/12/2006, you wrote:
I agree with that. I have an HP 3586A Selective Voltmeter and it has the
LO output on the rear which covers 0-32 MHz. I wish there was a
programmable attenuator on this output as it is exceptionally clean
spectrally. Of course, there is no modulation capability.

What about a 3336(A, B, C)? Although the attenuator is only on the 
21MHz output, but if you can get one with option 5 it is a beautiful 
low noise modulatable source with an outstanding attenuator.

John


Didier KO4BB

Magnus Danielson wrote:
  ...
  The only thing which annoys me is that it doesn't go higher in 
 frequency and
  that I wish I could run the modulation source internally even if I like the
  contacts at the back. If you don't get the modulation source to do anything
  reasnoble, check if you have hooked up a cable!
 
  Cheers,
  Magnus
 
  


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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based frequencycontrol

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Feher
Seems like a lot of money to pay for one. I have been using an HP 3325A for
about 25 years and like it very much. I bought it brand new from HP for the
company I worked, where I was director of engineering. After I resigned, to
pursue greener pastures, they eventually closed down their hardware
capability and operations and offered me the entire laboratory and inventory
which then I purchased personally. I would recommend you getting the A
version for about one fifth of the price of that B model, unless, you have
an overwhelming desire to get the B for some special reason. Option 001
provides the high accuracy ovenized reference and it does not look like the
one on ebay has that option. Normally they would use a TCXO. Regardless,
since you will be using an external reference it really does not matter. The
A also accepts an external reference and I run my off of a local Rubidium.
73 - Mike  

 
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Hello everyone,

I found this HP3325B Function Generator on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270006696082

It has the high voltage option but not the High Stability Oven.

Since I plan to use an external GPS based frequency source,
does it matter?

I suspect the unit still has a decent ovenized crystal to begin with.

Any thoughts from the group?

-George Hrysanthopoulos, N2FGX

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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based frequencycontrol

2006-07-11 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I've always been curious about the 3325A vs. B -- there is more price 
spread between those two than just about any other HP A vs. B model. 
What's the difference between them, and is it worth anything like that 
much (obviously, Mike doesn't think so :-) ).

I've been happy with my A model, though it often fails amplitude 
calibration on powerup.  Waiting a few seconds and then running the cal 
always works, though.

John


Mike Feher wrote:
 Seems like a lot of money to pay for one. I have been using an HP 3325A for
 about 25 years and like it very much. I bought it brand new from HP for the
 company I worked, where I was director of engineering. After I resigned, to
 pursue greener pastures, they eventually closed down their hardware
 capability and operations and offered me the entire laboratory and inventory
 which then I purchased personally. I would recommend you getting the A
 version for about one fifth of the price of that B model, unless, you have
 an overwhelming desire to get the B for some special reason. Option 001
 provides the high accuracy ovenized reference and it does not look like the
 one on ebay has that option. Normally they would use a TCXO. Regardless,
 since you will be using an external reference it really does not matter. The
 A also accepts an external reference and I run my off of a local Rubidium.
 73 - Mike  


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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based frequencycontrol

2006-07-11 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John:

It's my recollection (and so subject to bad memory) that the 3325's 
claim to fame is that the amplitude is settable in steps of 0.01 dB.
Also the amplitude accuracy is very good.  Because of this the 3325 is 
still called out as part of the required test equipment needed to 
calibrate other test instruments.  The A model uses mechanical 
attenuators that wear out and the B model uses some more reliable 
attenuation scheme.  Once the A model breaks it's toast.  Since they are 
still needed for doing calibrations the demand for the more reliable B 
model is driving up the price.
http://www.tucker.com/images/images_spec/0015.pdf

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke

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John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

I've always been curious about the 3325A vs. B -- there is more price 
spread between those two than just about any other HP A vs. B model. 
What's the difference between them, and is it worth anything like that 
much (obviously, Mike doesn't think so :-) ).

I've been happy with my A model, though it often fails amplitude 
calibration on powerup.  Waiting a few seconds and then running the cal 
always works, though.

John


Mike Feher wrote:
  

Seems like a lot of money to pay for one. I have been using an HP 3325A for
about 25 years and like it very much. I bought it brand new from HP for the
company I worked, where I was director of engineering. After I resigned, to
pursue greener pastures, they eventually closed down their hardware
capability and operations and offered me the entire laboratory and inventory
which then I purchased personally. I would recommend you getting the A
version for about one fifth of the price of that B model, unless, you have
an overwhelming desire to get the B for some special reason. Option 001
provides the high accuracy ovenized reference and it does not look like the
one on ebay has that option. Normally they would use a TCXO. Regardless,
since you will be using an external reference it really does not matter. The
A also accepts an external reference and I run my off of a local Rubidium.
73 - Mike  




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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based frequencycontrol

2006-07-11 Thread Jack Hudler
Here's one that sold for $102
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=31869022




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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based frequencycontrol

2006-07-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: John Ackermann N8UR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 3325B Function Generator and GPS based 
frequencycontrol
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:39:49 -0400
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 I've always been curious about the 3325A vs. B -- there is more price 
 spread between those two than just about any other HP A vs. B model. 
 What's the difference between them, and is it worth anything like that 
 much (obviously, Mike doesn't think so :-) ).

The B model adds modulation source if I recall correctly. I have the B model
but also has some of the A documentation. However, I can't check the details
from here (600 km between me and the manuals). I would not add too much money
on the B model compared to the A model. It's nice but not strictly necessary.

The High Voltage option is nice, but if you are a true time-nut the 001 ref
doesn't add much since you already as a nice ref heated.

The only thing which annoys me is that it doesn't go higher in frequency and
that I wish I could run the modulation source internally even if I like the
contacts at the back. If you don't get the modulation source to do anything
reasnoble, check if you have hooked up a cable!

Cheers,
Magnus

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