Re: [time-nuts] HP 5342A (18 GHz) vs 5352B (40 GHz) frequency counters

2014-11-22 Thread Scott McGrath
I've got a few of the 5342s their weak point is the sampler.  It can be fixed 
if you have a die bonder all of mine have the option 1 which is either a 10544 
or 10811 depending on vintage

The 535x series are nice counters I've got a couple. The bad thing is parts are 
even less  available because all the magic happened on a hybrid circuit which 
is NLA from keysight and was around $1800 when it was.

As to the comment on GPIB it's very popular still as it's a universal interface 
with a defined interface which is vendor independent and every piece of gear 
we've bought recently has included it as a standard option.

Yes instruments are coming with Ethernet but that's mainly for remote front 
panel operation.   It's useful when you can send a field tech with an 
instrument who's a local in country have them connect and then you can drive 
from the comfort of your office and transfer results for analysis

But for data collection and production LabView and GPIB still rule the roost.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 21, 2014, at 5:29 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 David a free opinion and thats about what its worth.
 The 5342 counter was a good counter but very old now.
 I used to use the 5342s for satellite work and always wanted one for home.
 But given its age circa 1980 I believe, maybe it works or not at all
 frequencies.
 I would simply go with the 5352b because at least there is some chance to
 find parts if needed.
 As I say not a great answer.
 Regards
 Paul
 WB8TSL
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) 
 drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote:
 
 I am looking for a microwave frequency counter and won an auction for an 18
 GHz 5342A with the GPIB option today @ £200 (GBP). I have just paid for
 that.
 
 I also have the chance to get a 5352B 40 GHz counter for £500. That has
 GPIB as standard.
 
 In the short/medium term I don't see much use for a 40 GHz counter, but I
 am giving consideration to buying the 40 GHz and selling the 18 GHz one.
 
 I would be interested to know if anyone has any opinions on the relative
 merrits of the two counters.
 
 Neither of these counters have ovens,  but stability is not a major issue
 given they take a 10 MHz input. That said, foes anyone know if these take
 fairly common 10811A ovens? There is a chance I would use it in places
 where it would not practical to feed in 10 MHz.
 
 Dave
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[time-nuts] HP 5342A (18 GHz) vs 5352B (40 GHz) frequency counters

2014-11-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
I am looking for a microwave frequency counter and won an auction for an 18
GHz 5342A with the GPIB option today @ £200 (GBP). I have just paid for
that.

I also have the chance to get a 5352B 40 GHz counter for £500. That has
GPIB as standard.

In the short/medium term I don't see much use for a 40 GHz counter, but I
am giving consideration to buying the 40 GHz and selling the 18 GHz one.

I would be interested to know if anyone has any opinions on the relative
merrits of the two counters.

Neither of these counters have ovens,  but stability is not a major issue
given they take a 10 MHz input. That said, foes anyone know if these take
fairly common 10811A ovens? There is a chance I would use it in places
where it would not practical to feed in 10 MHz.

Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5342A (18 GHz) vs 5352B (40 GHz) frequency counters

2014-11-21 Thread paul swed
David a free opinion and thats about what its worth.
The 5342 counter was a good counter but very old now.
I used to use the 5342s for satellite work and always wanted one for home.
But given its age circa 1980 I believe, maybe it works or not at all
frequencies.
I would simply go with the 5352b because at least there is some chance to
find parts if needed.
As I say not a great answer.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) 
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote:

 I am looking for a microwave frequency counter and won an auction for an 18
 GHz 5342A with the GPIB option today @ £200 (GBP). I have just paid for
 that.

 I also have the chance to get a 5352B 40 GHz counter for £500. That has
 GPIB as standard.

 In the short/medium term I don't see much use for a 40 GHz counter, but I
 am giving consideration to buying the 40 GHz and selling the 18 GHz one.

 I would be interested to know if anyone has any opinions on the relative
 merrits of the two counters.

 Neither of these counters have ovens,  but stability is not a major issue
 given they take a 10 MHz input. That said, foes anyone know if these take
 fairly common 10811A ovens? There is a chance I would use it in places
 where it would not practical to feed in 10 MHz.

 Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5342A (18 GHz) vs 5352B (40 GHz) frequency counters

2014-11-21 Thread Dave M

Dr. Kirby,

The 5242A Option 001 (high stability) used a 10544 oscillator, which. IIRC, 
is electrically interchangeable with the 10811.

The 5352B Option 010 (high stability) uses the 10811 oscillator.

Cheers,
Dave M


Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote:

I am looking for a microwave frequency counter and won an auction for
an 18 GHz 5342A with the GPIB option today @ £200 (GBP). I have just
paid for that.

I also have the chance to get a 5352B 40 GHz counter for £500. That
has
GPIB as standard.

In the short/medium term I don't see much use for a 40 GHz counter,
but I
am giving consideration to buying the 40 GHz and selling the 18 GHz
one.

I would be interested to know if anyone has any opinions on the
relative merrits of the two counters.

Neither of these counters have ovens,  but stability is not a major
issue given they take a 10 MHz input. That said, foes anyone know if
these take fairly common 10811A ovens? There is a chance I would use
it in places
where it would not practical to feed in 10 MHz.

Dave



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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5342A (18 GHz) vs 5352B (40 GHz) frequency counters

2014-11-21 Thread Alex Pummer
I have one of the source locking EIP, which  works up to 90GHz, but 
used only for 60,xx GHz only, they are sometimes relative inexpensive 
available on e-bay, see here: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EIP-578-MICROWAVE-FREQUENCY-COUNTER-10Hz-TO-90GHz-INCL-SENSOR-/111503803566?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item19f62504ae

73
Alex
On 11/21/2014 2:29 PM, paul swed wrote:

David a free opinion and thats about what its worth.
The 5342 counter was a good counter but very old now.
I used to use the 5342s for satellite work and always wanted one for home.
But given its age circa 1980 I believe, maybe it works or not at all
frequencies.
I would simply go with the 5352b because at least there is some chance to
find parts if needed.
As I say not a great answer.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) 
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote:


I am looking for a microwave frequency counter and won an auction for an 18
GHz 5342A with the GPIB option today @ £200 (GBP). I have just paid for
that.

I also have the chance to get a 5352B 40 GHz counter for £500. That has
GPIB as standard.

In the short/medium term I don't see much use for a 40 GHz counter, but I
am giving consideration to buying the 40 GHz and selling the 18 GHz one.

I would be interested to know if anyone has any opinions on the relative
merrits of the two counters.

Neither of these counters have ovens,  but stability is not a major issue
given they take a 10 MHz input. That said, foes anyone know if these take
fairly common 10811A ovens? There is a chance I would use it in places
where it would not practical to feed in 10 MHz.

Dave
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5342A (18 GHz) vs 5352B (40 GHz) frequency counters

2014-11-21 Thread Hui Zhang
The manual stated HP5342A have a option 001, it's a HP10544 OCXO with PC card 
connector(A24), but when I opened my HP5342A, there is very limited space,  I 
doubt it's whether can contain a big 10544 OCXO in there. So I always use a 
external 10MHz to feed my counter.


Hui Zhang






At 2014-11-22 05:51:16, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) 
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote:
I am looking for a microwave frequency counter and won an auction for an 18
GHz 5342A with the GPIB option today @ £200 (GBP). I have just paid for
that.

I also have the chance to get a 5352B 40 GHz counter for £500. That has
GPIB as standard.

In the short/medium term I don't see much use for a 40 GHz counter, but I
am giving consideration to buying the 40 GHz and selling the 18 GHz one.

I would be interested to know if anyone has any opinions on the relative
merrits of the two counters.

Neither of these counters have ovens,  but stability is not a major issue
given they take a 10 MHz input. That said, foes anyone know if these take
fairly common 10811A ovens? There is a chance I would use it in places
where it would not practical to feed in 10 MHz.

Dave
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