[time-nuts] HP 5370A to B conversion

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Sims
It's not practical to convert an A to a true B model.  They use a different 
input front end circuit.  But,  the rest of the machine is compatible.  The B 
firmware runs on a A.  John's CPU board works on either version.  
  
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A to B conversion

2014-12-19 Thread Chuck Harris

There really is no need to convert it to a B unit, as
the A unit has the same specifications.  If you put
John Seamons' BBB CPU card in it, it will simply sing
as far as speed goes, and you can use the A or B
virtual roms as you wish.

The principle difference is the B analog boards are
easier to calibrate, and, have a different range of
threshold settings on the front panel knobs..

-Chuck Harris

Perry Sandeen via time-nuts wrote:

List, I won a 5370A from ebay. Though it seems to be missing the A channel level
knob, the unit was shown powered up with the correct 0.0 on the display, 
although
the unit was sold as non-working for parts or repair.  But the price was right
with a best offer accepted. So assuming (gulp) that the unit works after fixing
the A channel problem. is it practical or desirable to convert this to a B 
unit? I
have one of the new processor boards with the BBone option that I can use in the
unit. Advice requested. Regards, Perrier

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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A to B conversion

2014-12-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message blu170-w435e764addfe88a3a4ebeece...@phx.gbl, Mark Sims writes:

It's not practical to convert an A to a true B model.  They
use a different input front end circuit.  But,  the rest of the
machine is compatible.  The B firmware runs on a A.  John's CPU
board works on either version.

The only differene in the software is a single byte fix for an
obscure race-condition.

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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A to B conversion

2014-12-19 Thread Dan Rae
I saved a bunch of 5370A boards from being sent for gold scrap at a 
recent TRW swap meet.  A lot of the boards are common to both A and B 
versions.  If anyone has a need for any particular board, let me know 
off list please.  Nothing from the front panel.


Dan
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370A to B conversion

2014-12-19 Thread Magnus Danielson

There is a mod on the A model which was fixed in the B version.

As I recall, it was to reduce cross-talk. Bruce the almighty might 
recall better than me.


I would recommend Perry to apply the BBB based CPU-boards. Good use of 
the hardware at hand.


Cheers,
Magnus

On 12/19/2014 02:55 PM, Chuck Harris wrote:

There really is no need to convert it to a B unit, as
the A unit has the same specifications.  If you put
John Seamons' BBB CPU card in it, it will simply sing
as far as speed goes, and you can use the A or B
virtual roms as you wish.

The principle difference is the B analog boards are
easier to calibrate, and, have a different range of
threshold settings on the front panel knobs..

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[time-nuts] HP 5370A to B conversion

2014-12-18 Thread Perry Sandeen via time-nuts
List,
I won a 5370A from ebay. Though it seems to be missing the A channel level 
knob, the unit was shown powered up with the correct 0.0 on the display, 
although the unit was sold as non-working for parts or repair.  But the price 
was right with a best offer accepted.
So assuming (gulp) that the unit works after fixing the A channel problem. is 
it practical or desirable to convert this to a B unit?
I have one of the new processor boards with the BBone option that I can use in 
the unit.
Advice requested.
Regards,
Perrier
 
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